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Subject: Re: Terrified and depressed


Author:
Tracey (Jess, we're here!!!)
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Date Posted: 07/ 3/07 5:30am
In reply to: Jess 's message, "Terrified and depressed" on 07/ 1/07 7:55pm

Jess~
Hello and welcome! We're glad you found us! You have found a safe and supportive place. We promise to help in any and every way we can. I am so sorry you are going through this...this is supposed to be a happy time and unfortunately your ex has caused you sadness, hurt, and grief. It's hard to focus on the happiness when pain and sadness overshadows it. Jess, I want you to know that you are never alone! God is always there and He's waiting for you to call out to Him for help. He wants to carry your burdens. If you fully put your trust in Him, I promise you, you will find peace and happiness in all of this turmoil and stress. The bible says, "Cast all your cares upon him; for he careth for you." (I Peter 5:7) I also want to encourage you to seek some sort of counseling. We can help you find a local pregnancy center in your area. They offer tons, from free counseling to free items for you and the baby, to finding financial help, if you need it. I do want to encourage you to seek financial support from him(your ex). This is HIS child as well, so make sure he helps, if not physically, financially! He has a responsibility to this child and you need to try and make sure he owns up to his responsibility.
Jess, I was your exact age when I found out I was pregnant with my first. You CAN do this...you are just doubting yourself right now. I'm so glad you're seeking help! That is the first step! Seeking help and support will allow you to grow stronger and more secure in YOU, and pretty soon you will be able to stand on your own two feet and know that you can do this and KNOW that you deserve ten times better! Right now you have an amazing miracle growing beneath your heart! You are already a mother...it is your job and privilege to protect and nurture this little one. We promise to be here to support and help you in any way we can. If you need help in finding a pregnancy center in your area we can help! We will need your state and closest city and we will send you a list of centers. Please continue to come back and post any time and as often as you like! I am proud of you, Jess! You WILL get through this and become better and stronger for it! I always liked that saying, "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger!" :) BTW, like I said before I was your age when I had my first...I now have four! :) *see pic at top of page* I love motherhood! There is nothing in this world like it! And there's nothing more gratifying than feeling your little one's arms around your neck and hear them say, "love you mama!" :) It makes all this craziness worth while! Hope to hear from you soon!
God bless,
Tracey

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[> [> Subject: Re: Terrified and depressed


Author:
Jess
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Date Posted: 07/ 3/07 4:38pm

Thank you. I am just so confused and really embarrassed. I don't think I will be able to get any support from him. In fact knowing what I know now, I don't even know that I want to. When I said I found out that he was with someone else, that meant I found out he was - is married. I just don't know how I didn't know. He was always available at times, I mean there were strange things that I ignored, but he asked me to marry him. I would not have thought he was already married. I feel like my life since I've known him has been a lie. He already has a family. Wow! this just does not feel real to me. I don't know why I exist sometimes. This is not fair for my baby that I'm trying hard to love. I feel so ashamed and the scary thing is I still want him when I know I can't.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Terrified and depressed


Author:
Lori
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Date Posted: 07/ 5/07 8:14am

Hi Jess,

Wow, that is hard to find out that the person that you were supposed to marry is already married. Trust me when I say this though, you don't want a man who would ever cheat on his wife because he will cheat on you too. I'm sorry that your having to go through this.

The best thing for you is to move on completely. However if you do need his support financially I would let him know that he will be responsible. That is completely up to you and where you stand finanically. There are programs out there to that can help you finanically if you qualify. A lot of single mom's do qualify for assistance but it really depends on your financial situation. Have you talked to him further about this? I have a friend who was in a similar situation and the guy that fathered her baby signed off his rights to the child etc. But depending on where you live, a man will not have to pay child support if he signs off his rights. I know that this is a lot to think about it but I wanted to reassure you that you can do this no matter what the circumstances are.

I highly recommend that you speak to a counselor though. You can find a free counselor at a pregnancy crisis center. There is no need to be embarrased or ashamed this counselor will make you feel very comfortable. If you need help finding a center please email me and I will help you.

I know this is rough but you will be okay. You have a child living inside of you that depends on you. Trust me you will never regret having this child. Please feel free to email me any time. Were all here for you. You will be in my thoughts and prayers. Keep us updated!

Take Care,
Lori
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Terrified and depressed


Author:
Jess (confused)
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Date Posted: 07/ 8/07 10:49am

Thanks I guess you are right. He finally met with me yesterday and said that it was impossible for it to be his. ????? I was too upset to really even respond. I just said, okay. I feel like I am in a daze right now. I told him that I've not been with anyone else. He told me this was going to ruin his life and that I needed to get it taken care of immediately. He did the one thing that he has never done with me our whole time together. He prayed with me and in the middle of the prayer he asked God to take the baby away and cause my menstral flow to come. I was so hurt. I am trying to come to grips with the situation already and then he says that. That's not fair. I only wanted to discuss it with him. I guess I have now. I guess it's just one day at a time. I saw the centers posted above. I will check them out. I finally talked to a friend and she is supportive. It was hard because I am so ashamed. She knows him too and had no idea about his other situation. When I walked way from him he told me to let him know what happens at the doctor or if my period comes on. How am I to take that? He tells me it is impossible to be pregnant by him then he wants to know all the details? I am confused as it is.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Terrified and depressed


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 07/ 8/07 4:53pm

Hi Jess,

What really stands out to me is that he is so afraid he's choosing to be in denial. Afraid, most likely, because he knows he's done something very wrong. Before the very real reality of a new life created, he could probably compartmentalize what he was doing with you, the lies he was telling/living out with you (and undoubtedly his wife) and retreat to it like a video game or equivalent. That all changed when you let him know you were now carrying a child, and he sees the very real implications both emotional and financial that this development may bring. And of course it will more than likely mean that his wife will now find out what he's done, or his life will become very, very difficult trying to keep it hidden. To a man that has made his home in a lie, this is quite a bit of reality to be thrown and it shouldn't come as much suprise that he's responding by more lies - to himself and to you, that this isn't his child. Of course he knows deep down it is.

All that I'll venture to offer as opinion regarding that is that you deserve much, much better than a man who has only used you physically and considered your well-being nothing in the wake of his lies to suit his pleasure. He may have had some token of affection for you, Jess, but the truth is plainer than day in his actions. Love does not use, lie and disregard the sanctity of another human's life (in this case yours. His lack of love is just further evidenced in his wishing for the death of the new life that's been created.) Common courtesy and respect doesn't even do that. Selfishness and omission of love does.

So the bad news is that you probably weren't much more than a mere character in the stage production of his life, centered on himself. The good news is that by this same reason it isn't a betrayal specifically leveled at you, though I can see why you'd take it so painfully personally. Really, you could have been anybody. What happened, and what went wrong was about him, not you.

Regarding abortion, he is at least being consistent. The same man who thought nothing of using you, your heart, and your hopes to suit his own end also thinks nothing of killing another human life to suit the same central figure in the play - himself.

I know it's so hard to separate your emotions so quickly. This whole thing must be such a nightmare for you. I'm so sorry you have to go through this type of shock and readjustment when you were so recently flush with dreams about getting married and having a baby. Be patient and give yourself time - you'll likely go through a whole range of rollercoaster feelings over the next few months as you accept the deception and move on. You'll be in my prayers.

Your baby, however, is a bright spot untarnished by all the lies and deception. Your new little son or daughter is YOUR son or daughter and I have no doubt that they will bring you much joy. There are just no words to describe the level of joy when you hold your little one and get to know them and their unique ways. There are many things in life I don't know, and am aware of it every day, but one thing I DO know is that the same God who created you with love and perfection and has also created the little one you are now carrying is more than able to supply you with the grace you need to make it through your pregnancy and motherhood.

The tapestry of you life has changed now from what you had planned, but this happens to all of us in one way or another. You can embrace how God has chosen to wove things and find the joys hidden there. There will be hardships, but those come even with the best laid out plans and often take many by surprise altogether.

You can do it! I hope you do find continued support at the Pregnancy Center near you. Just hold on to the truth that circumstances are ALWAYS in flux. You have no idea what your future holds a year from now. Though you are grieving right now, don't let those dark thoughts convince you that this is the rest of your life. You have a future full of changing seasons and many of them will contain levity and joy again.

For me, sometimes knowing that makes waiting out the hard times more bearable and I resist them less. One of my favorite scriptures from the Bible: "Weeping endures for the night but joy comes in the morning."

Don't be ashamed of the new life now growing in you any more! Repent where you think you need to and allow yourself to be forgiven. The rest of the shame doesn't belong to you, and whether or not the father of your baby ever decides to make things right is in God's hands, not yours. Don't let it steal your energy and joy at being a new mother.

Because you have so recently been given reason by another human being to believe otherwise, please allow a perfect stranger from California to remind you of the simple truth that you are incredibly value to God, have great worth and dignity as a human being, and are invited at any time it strikes your desire to do so to come to Him and spend time with the One who knows you better than you know yourself.

And lastly, CONGRATULATIONS on your little one. May they be blessed and healthy and may you enjoy your pregnancy with unexpected peace and anticipation. May your tender heart be magnified in motherhood and a blessing to your little one.

With Kindness,

Heather
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Feeling Better


Author:
Jess
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Date Posted: 07/ 9/07 3:58pm

Heather, thank you so much. Wow! I felt my life changing as I read your response. I thank God for all of you. You all have been so supportive. I was trying to convince myself that maybe he cared, but I realize that he only cares about him. Which sometimes he frightens me. I'm not too worried right now, I believe that I'm going to be okay. If I have to completely do with out him, I will. Looking at how things are I don't have a better choice and I can't trust him anymore. I feel so blesed by your response. Thank you. I am starting to want my baby more and more. I'm still a little nervous, but I realized that I want this baby. So, I'm going to get out and protect me and my baby. Thank you again, Heather. Words cannot express my gratitude for your willingless to share and minister to me. I feel like I'm coming alive again.
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Terrified and depressed


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 07/10/07 12:03am

Your response was a blessing to me, too. I hope you make yourself at home here during your pregnancy and beyond. I look forward to reading about how your pregnancy progresses and of the good things in store. :)

There's a great book, by the way, for first time mothers. It's very popular now and you may have heard of it. "What to Expect When You're Expecting." It's a great question and answer format that covers every conceivable aspect of pregnancy, shows where your baby is at developmentally at each stage, etc. I loved it. I'd also get yourself some good prenatal vitamins.

I'm glad you told your friend; maybe others in your life will be more supportive than you think. Especially if you present it as the 'good news' that you are expecting. If you're happy about it, others are more likely to be happy for you.

If you're interested in finding out by ultrasound, it's possible to know if you're carrying a little girl or boy by as early as 13 weeks. Many of the Pregnancy Resource Centers offer free ultrasounds by appointment. Then you can begin the fun of considering names!

Heather

"In Him we live and move and have our being."
~Acts 17:28
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Author:
Jess (a little sad)
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Date Posted: 08/28/07 1:51pm

Heather is it wrong to still want him to be there. I know that I can't really expect anything from him, but is it wrong to want to? I am having a hard time. Can you give me any advise? I love my baby but sometimes I still feel depressed and I just want his father to acknowledge him. I think I would feel just a litte bit better if he would even accept this baby. I don't want my child to feel rejected by him. Am I worrying too much?
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Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 09/ 2/07 7:03pm

Hi Jess,

Sorry it took me so long to see this post. Is it wrong to still want him there? Of course not. Feelings don't have to carry a whole lot of decision making weight. To me they seem more of a natural by product of life's particular circumstances. I don't think you'd be any more noble or sane person if you were void of any feelings of missing the father of your child and wanting his acceptance.

One of the greatest parts of growing up for me (still a work in progress) is discovering that my feelings didn't have to run my life. Or ruin it for that matter. It's sort of like discovering that they don't have to be the engine on a train, only the cargo - if that makes sense. We can use our will, our acquired wisdom of what is best and right in a situation, along with the wisdom of others to decide what direction to steer things.

If you're anything like me, just knowing that will make the feelings of x,y,z seem less threatening. They just pass like storms.

This is one reason I'm always so thankful for a woman who has the conviction to resist the seeming 'quick out' of abortion. Because the circumstances surrounding a woman that can make an abortion seem like the only escape are always changing, but abortion is permanent. Even the lousiest mate, the worst finances, the most unforgiving parents or employer are always in flux and subject to turning around or otherwise ceasing to be the insurmountable they once appeared.

Do I have any advice for you dear one? Only to know that it's perfectly normal to have the feelings you are. Just don't let them fool you into thinking you must act on them if doing so would ultimately be unwise for you and your little one. It's probably also best to meditate and think about the things that will move you in the healthiest direction rather than dwelling on those feelings too much. You are inexpressibly precious, as is your son, and you should regard yourself as one hand fashioned and valuable to the One who made you. Pray for wisdom from God, and He will freely grant it.

As for your son's father accepting him - I know I can't suggest anything you don't already know; that you can't arm twist any emotion out of anyone (I can't say I haven't tried myself - always fruitless!) It would be wonderful if God gave him a sober heart, with wisdom to contemplate and understand things rightly. But that's between him and God. You'll simply have to accept whatever it is that's put in front of you and be responsible for yourself.

I will be in prayer for you and your son. I have a lot of respect for you as well as empathy. Please feel free to write any time.

With Kindness,

Heather
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Terrified and depressed


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 09/ 3/07 8:17pm

Hi Jess,

Looks like my response to you yesterday never made it to the forum?

I will write again soon. You're also welcome to email me anytime. 1heathermiller@gmail.com

With Kindness,

Heather



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