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Subject: First pregnancy


Author:
Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/ 9/06 8:50pm

Well i just told my parents they took it well they said it happens to everyone and that they are not ashamed of me they said the would support me eityher way but the smart thing to do would be to have an abortion....everyone says i seem to be taking it well but no one knows its killing me. The truth is if there was any way possible to keep it i would..i mean i have a good job i just bought a car i have medical benefits i would get maternity leave but i still live at home i have soo many bills to py and a car lease to pay...and besides i just started my own business .. memorablemomentsplanning.com ...with my best friend i feel like i would be letting her down because i wouldnt be able to be invovled as much as her. My boyfriend is the best he feels so bad to see me upset and he said if he was rich we could keep it but there is just no possible way to support it....but for now he is giving me special treatment...i get anything i want...lol he will be a great father one day and a great husband and i want him to be the father of all my children i may have. but back to the present time....i wish there was a way to keep my baby i mean im not a 16 years old...im 24 today!! well in 15 minutes!! July 10th!! i love my baby is that possible at 5 weeks??? also im gaining weight i have a little buldge is that possible so early?? how do i bring myself to except this???? i want him or her i dont want an abortion...i wish i would win the lottery!! well i already have my dr's appointment just to see my gyno beore having te dreaded proceedure...sooo i have a little while so if its meant to be i guess it will be..theres a reason this happen to me i dont know what it is yet...i hope i find out soon!

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[> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 07/ 9/06 9:51pm

Hi Jacqueline,

I just posted on your other thread but wanted to add briefly that if finances are the main thing troubling your boyfriend and you, don't worry about those! Many women like myself can testify that a baby can be brought into the world and cared for in a very healthy fashion without a whole lot of money. Especially if you breastfeed - no formula and bottle expenses.

Pregnancy Resource Centers/Crisis Pregnancy Centers offer all kinds of neat baby clothes, furniture, baby backpacks, etc totally free and in great condition. They also have a lot of other benefits and resources, and all of their services are free. Some centers even offer free ultrasounds. You can find the nearest one to you by googling Pregnancy Resource Centers and entering your city/state, or look in your phonebook under abortion alternatives.

With how bonded you already seem to your little one I'd hate to see you go through with the abortion. In educating yourself about abortion and alternatives make sure to look into P.A.S.S (Post Abortion Stress Syndrome.) Likely candidates for experiencing problems after an abortion are those that went into the abortion with mixed feelings and a desire to keep the baby.

You might also check out the website afterabortion.com to listen to how many women process the abortion choice. It might help your boyfriend to understand your mixed feelings, too.

Your protective instincts are already a step in the right direction of being a great mother. I'm only 6 years older than you and I have four children (two of which were totally unplanned but absolutely the hugest blessings of joy to us.)

Happy Birthday! I hope this next year of your life is one filled with grace and beauty.

Heather
[> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Tracey
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Date Posted: 07/10/06 4:47am

Jacqueline~
First, I want to welcome you to our board! We're SO glad you found us! You have found a safe and supportive place here. I know right now you are scared and probably have a thousand different thoughts and emotions running through your head. But please remember, you are not alone! We are here to guide and help you. As far as your situation goes, this is a tough one, but not totally impossible. You are dealing with alot of stress and emotions right now and I think you're thinking that an abortion would just make it all go away. Unfortunately, that's usually not the case...abortion only robs women of their happiness and their chance of ever knowing their child. I think it's no mistake you found us...you are planning an abortion and if you were totally at peace with this decision, I don't think you'd be seeking advice. But something's telling you to find out more, seek help, get advice. I know you feel like this situation is hopeless, but I'm here to tell you it's not...so many women have careers or go to school and still continue in their pregnancies and have their babies! You sound like a strong woman who has goals and dreams and I truly don't think a baby's going to put and end to these dreams. My mother had three children and went to college while pregnant with me. She graduated and now has her Master's degree. She was able to create a loving, healthy, and happy environment for my brothers and I, as well as make her own dreams come true! You CAN do this, Jacqueline! You just have to set your mind toward your goal and be willing to seek help along the way. You are here and that's a big step! You're doing your research and asking for advice! That shows you already truly care about this little one! Jacqueline, we truly want to help you and I hope you will give us the opportunity to do so. We hope to hear back from you! In the meantime, I will be praying for you and your boyfriend. Please keep us posted! If you need extra guidance, please let us know! We can help you locate a pregnancy center in your area that can offer you guidance and support as well. Listen to your heart...you are already a mother...now it's just time to decide which path you want to go.
God bless,
Tracey
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/10/06 1:31pm

First of all i just want to say you guys are all very nice and im happy i found this place. I should mention im from canada i live in montreal. We have free health care free doctors appointments free ultra sounds free birth and delivery....wow i sound selfish dont I. I just have standards i know i sound like a snob..im just trying to be honest here...I could never accept hand outs or go on welfare or anything like that...i know that sounds terrible and i have nothing against people who do. My mother went on welfare when she had me..my father left her when she was pregnant and ive never met him ...im also an only child..I grew up all alone. while my mother worked i stayed with baby sitters or my grandmother..it was awful a lot of the time. Now we live in a house, my mothyer finally met a nice man about 14 years ago and we live altogether. My point is i dont want to have children the way my mother did. I want to know the baby will be supported by myself or the father not by anyone else its really important for me to bring a child into a home where there are two parents that love each other and tere is no problems. Can anyone understand that or am i just a selfish bitch?? i actually looked at maternity clothes today lol i dont know why....also its not fair to my boyfriend hes not ready..i know its my body and my choice but its his also and its not fair. anyways its my birthday today not much of a birthday though...im going out for dinner tonight with my parents and my boyfriend its the first dinner ever we all had and i just told my parents yesterday...how weird!!! I know im going to regret this abortion i know im going to be depressed i know its going to kill me but what choice do i have..i dont want to be a single mother i absolutely 100 percent am oposed to that and i dont think my relatioship with my boyfriend domenic would survive a child this early in our relationship its only be 7 months...i havent even met his family yet...only once and that was new years...visit number two ..hi im having your sons child..??? i cant!! I just cant..my spirit will be dead but i gusess that the price i pay for having unprotected sex.....and for those who asked...my doctors appointment is July 19th not for the abortion but just to see mny doctor to tell him thats what i want to do and my doctor will take care of everything after that..make the appt for me and stuff....pray i win the lottery ticket i got for my birthday!! haha im just kidding..ok im really tired im goingto rest before dinner ... :)
[> [> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 07/11/06 6:53pm

Hi Jacequeline,

"I know im going to regret this abortion i know im going to be depressed i know its going to kill me but what choice do i have...."

You have a choice not to have the abortion, with two choices springing from that one - to keep the baby yourself and work it into your life or place the baby with another family that is waiting with open arms to love and care for a baby.


No one said either of these are easy choices, but they are choices. Abortion is a hard choice, too. And it kills another human being.


"i dont want to be a single mother i absolutely 100 percent am oposed to that....."

It's not selfish to feel that way at all. Single motherhood is not the ideal and not how it was designed to be. This is even evidenced in nature. But it happens, especially with sex outside of the design of marriage. There are many ways to redeem the situation. Many things don't go as they should but can be navigated by grace to be something of great value all the same.

Your instincts are good, both the ones that give you a sense of bonding and nurturing towards the little person growing in you and the ones to not make them live with single motherhood.

But while single motherhood is not the ideal, would you have preferred that your mother made the choice of killing you before you were born to spare you from it?

Keep an open mind, you're not trapped. You don't have to have the abortion if you don't want to do it. There's a hope, love, and respect found in the other choices that's not there in abortion. Abortion is only death, and the emptiness and death that you feel afterwards may not be as easily traversed as you might think.

Before your appointment, make sure you respect yourself by getting informed about abortionh procedures, side-effects, abortion stories from women in all walks of life, and fetal development.

Here's the link to a great photo of a human fetus just 6 weeks from conception:

http://www.virginiapregnancy.org/fetal_slides/fet_devpix04.gif

That's great that you Canadians get all the free healthcare and perks. The US should learn from that model.

Wishing you peace and grace,

Heather
[> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Sharon
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Date Posted: 07/12/06 12:57am

Jacqueline,

I've always been bothered by women saying "I could never give my baby up for adoption, because I would always wonder about him or her" and in the next breath saying "so I'm going to have an abortion." It seems to obvious to me (and I apologize for being so blunt, but I feel I have to say this) that the woman is selfishly saying "I'd rather have my baby be dead than have me live with worrying about him or her."

It sound like you already know that you will regret this abortion...so don't do it. You have the power to NOT do it now, but no power on earth will be able to undo it after the fact. Seriously look into adoption. I planned on giving my son up for adoption for the first 8 months of the pregnancy! It wasn't until that last month that I realized that I really wanted to raise him myself, even though that would mean raising him in a single parent household (which was the case for the first 18 months of his life - but I don't think he's any worse for it ;-) In fact, I think part of the reason that pregnancies last 9 months is to give us plenty of time to get used to the idea ;-)

I wonder if part of the reason you're even considering abortion is because you are trying to give yourself some time to ease into the idea of being pregnant...in other words, if you think of yourself as having an "out", it allows you to ease into the thought of being pregnant. BUT, I would STRONGLY urge you to NOT have an abortion if for no other reason than the fact that you, yourself, have said you know you would want to have this baby if all circumstances were right. Circumstances are never perfect, though. And sometimes the things we see as hurdles or problems turn out to be incredible blessings.

Like some of the other posters reommended, be sure to educate yourself about the abortion procedure, about post-abortive emotional repercussions, about physical side-effects (did you know that some studies have shown that nearly 25% of women become infertile after just ONE abortion?! I have a friend who falls into that category - she aborted her first pregnancy and was never able to conceive again.) The pro-choice side sometimes minimizes the negative effects of abortion because they want to avoid anything that might interfere with abortion being made readily accessible. That means that women have to search on their own to really get ALL the facts.

Be sure to see an ultrasound of your little one... Like some of the posters said, those are often free at crisis pregnancy centers. They are absolutely amazing. You'll see his (or her) little heart beating.

Hang in there.

Sharon
[> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Melanie
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Date Posted: 07/12/06 1:22am

Hi Jacqueline,

I can understand your concerns. It's hard to accept help from others. However, it is no crime to accept a little help. There is a big difference between depending on everyone else for everything and accepting a little help. I know very few parents (even better off ones) who don't get hand me downs for children's clothing at least sometimes. I mean it doesn't make sense to just toss them. LOL

Just curious, what makes you think your relationship with Domenic would not survive with a child? I can tell you that an abortion usually is not the best thing for any relationship. If the relationship is going to survive, it will, pregnancy or not. Relationships are work, but I think it's worth it in the end. :) (BTW, my husband and I only knew each other 11 months before we got married.)

I don't think you are a selfish "B****" but I think you are a little afraid of the future with this baby. Am I right? The future is never certain, with or without a baby. What you want is not really uncommon nor necessarily bad, although it may be a tad unrealistic. Even in the best relationships there are and will be problems. I know.. I've been married 30 years! ;) I know that things weren't always the best for you, but how are they now? I know when we had children that we always have had times of plenty and times when things were not as great financially. Not very many people start out with a lot and always have a lot.

As for your boyfriend's parents, why not tell them before you go ahead and see how they do? Give them a chance. I know it's really scary!! IT's hard to go into a situation with someone you don't know well, especially when you don't think it's the best of news.

I hope I'm not coming across like I'm "lecturing" or anything. But do stop and think. The way things are now are not necessarily how they will always be. You don't have to settle... it is possible that with a little help and planning you can make things work for you and your baby.
Maybe that's something the both of you deserve.

--Melanie
[> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Shellie
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Date Posted: 07/12/06 11:19am

Hi Jacqueline,

I'm an ex-welfare recipient, single mom. I only needed that help for a short time—but I still have my child (he’s 13 years old now). I was a single mom for the first 3 years of his life, which did not harm him. Don’t get me wrong; I strongly believe that it’s best for a child to have a 2-parent home. But, I already had made the huge mistake of having sex out of wedlock (and with a man who would make a terrible father), the least I could do was strive to give my child the best life possible despite the choices I had made up to that point.

It’s normal to feel as though you can’t make it--but you can! And you don’t need welfare to do it. I checked out your website—very good! This is a new business? Why not give it some time to see if it takes off? You are newly pregnant so you still have several months to change your finances. If the business isn’t successful there are other jobs out there. And even if your boyfriend isn’t rich, he can certainly help care for his child. For some reason we woman are so afraid of “messing up the guy’s life” that we are willing to sacrifice our own child in order to not do that.

You mentioned that you feel your relationship would not survive if you had this baby. But will it survive an abortion? You really should look into how an abortion affects relationships/marriages. Many times women abort a pregnancy because they do not have the support of their boyfriend/husband. Then when they are grieving the loss of their child, they can easily feel resentment toward the boyfriend for making them feel they had to abort.

Male Role is Frequently Crucial in Abortion Decision
http://www.nrlc.org/news/2002/NRL04/strahan.html

Talk to you soon!

Shellie
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/12/06 4:51pm

you are all right..if my relationship with dom is meant to last then it will last no matter what i do. Im seriously considering keeping the baby..i mean its not like it will be here tomorrow i have time...my only worry is i wouldnt be able to afford living on my own and i cant live at home with a baby..my step father would go nuts! I wouldnt have to work i would get maternity leave at my job for 18 months..but where would i live??? all my friends tell me to keep it that they will help me i know i would have a lot of help but...i dont even know how to approach this issue with dom...its terrifying for me. I almost feel like im decieving him. If he didnt want to be a part of this i guess i would be ok with that i wouldnt expect anything from him. Can i come live with you guys lol...im just kidding!!! is it normal to be showing at 5 weeks?? maybe its more then 1..i definately have a belly..most people cant notice but i know my body my boyfriend notices as does my mom...you think i might be having twins??? My mom is a twin it could be possible....did anyone here have the problem of having nowhere to live when they were faced with their unplanned pregnancy??
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
luka
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Date Posted: 07/12/06 5:41pm

Shellie i agree i have had an abortion primarily for a man and after the anesthetic wore off i was so angry! I mean SO angry..not just at myself but at HIM. It's like AHHHHHH my baby is gone! This panic/dread, despair/anger, this horrid feeling of oh no! What have i done? I ended up pregnant again only about 5 months later and kept that baby and things worked out ok. Allthough i still suffered resentment towards the father about the fact that he pushed me to have an abortion(s) (he is the same father of the baby i am carrying now. And well you all know the details about my situation so it's not a great surprise to me that he desperately wants me to kill yet another of his children even though he claims to love our other two more than anything. I had to bite my tounge evey time he tried to claim love for me or our children when it seemed all too easy for him to forget that there were others we never got the chance to get to know for what turned out to be no valid reason at all. I will have to do the same when the baby i am carrying is born because i know he will want to see him or her and will carry on like he has some right to the child. Right now i feel so angry typing this after he threatened and abused me to convince me to kill our child after i told him i was pregnant.
Now though i don't want to be with any man who wouldn't stand by me and his unborn child should i fall pregnant under any circumstances. I am more of the mind of if a relationship can't survive a pregnancy i mean what are you doing in it to begin with? Seems pretty conditional to me and not someone i would likely feel safe in depending on in any way emotional or otherwise. Natures way is that (eventually) we are supposed to reproduce. I mean thats one of the (many) aspects of the man-woman union. It's seems utterly backwards and unatural to be in a relationship that coudln't survive having a baby.
And what Heather said i would like to second-"Would you have preferred that your mother have ended your life rather than have you and love you and do her best to raise you?". I have trouble believing that you haven't enjoyed your life at all. And as for money making all the difference in the world. When i was a teenager i went to live with my 'well off' father for a little while. I was miserable - because he is not a warm man , he is pedantic and not loving. The only things he gave me were material, and they were cold and empty. His money did not make me happy or feel secure. What i wanted and needed was to feel loved above all else. Please don't discount your love as a secondary need it is the Primary* ingredient to being a good parent and having a happy child. The kind of love most parents feel for their children can move mountains and spur you to pursue your dreams and goals with a force of will you never knew you had.
[> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/13/06 2:37am

Im always having cramps like im going to get my period...is that normal??? i get them like maybe twice a day?? is that normal?
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


Author:
luka
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Date Posted: 07/13/06 5:41pm

Jaquline it can be normal to have some cramping early on its usually caused by the babys placenta growing and burrowing into your uterine linning. I even had some bright red bleeding which had me very fearful of miscarriage. But it turned out to be what they call a sub-chorionic bleed. The chorion is what will become the placenta, and just like when you dig a hole deep in the ground you can sometimes hit a pipe , or in my case a blood vessle or something similar of that nature. I am glad for it though because the fear of losing my baby made me realise how very much i wanted to keep my baby. The thing about showing i had as well! At about 5 or 6 weeks i looked a little bloated as i usually would before i had my period. It can be caused by fluid, bowel distention (very common in early pregnancy) or just general uterine congestion all of which is normal and nothing to worry about. You body is under going major internal renovations right now making a temporary home for you baby :)
I can fully understand your fear of broaching the subject with your partner. I'm not sure that i can suggest any one particular way. as you know him best i'm sure you will have a better idea of how to tell him that you don't really want to have a termination. But please no matter what he says initially 'don't panic!' give it a chance to marinade a little and do try to get him to accompany you to your first ultrasound. The earliest you will be able to see a tiny little moving baby is about 9 weeks after your last period (allthough 10 is better). Even i felt a little weird when i first found out about my pregancy -or no numb is probably more the word. I though oh no! But not long after the idea grew on me. And more to the point i could not truely envision myself going through with an abortion. The idea felt ridiculous like some crazy random thought you might have as you're nodding off to sleep.
I will leave you with a quote , i can't remember who it's by but it just sprung to my mind, "Where there is life there is hope"
You and i both have have new life growing inside of us and it truely is a hopeful, wonderful state of being! Rub your belly, love your baby- you'll be just fine :)
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy


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Tracey
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Date Posted: 07/14/06 4:27am

Jacqueline~
Hello! :) Early in pregnancy, cramping can indicate normal changes of pregnancy initiated by hormonal changes in your body. Later in pregnancy, it can indicate a growing uterus. I would however mention this to your OB on your next visit. I exerienced cramping(like menstrual cramps) in my first trimester throughout all my pregnancies and everything was fine. Keep us posted and if the cramps become more severe, contact your OB right away. Have a great day! ;)
God bless,
Tracey
[> Subject: Re: First pregnancy(no one understands)


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Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/15/06 5:55am

Ive decided in my heart that i want to keep my baby...long term people will get over it once they see the beautiful baby...but i dont think i could ever get over having an abortion. At the same time i feel alone no one is on my side...my parents tell me to have an abortion, my best friend and my boyfriend...the people that are cloest to me want me to just kill it. yes its not fair for me to have a baby that my bf doesnt want but its not fair for me to have an abortion that i dont want....im sooo confused i dont know what to do...everyone seems to be on my boyfriends side...poor dom...how could you do that to him..he will never talk to you again if you keep it....what about me what about the baby..I dont know what to do..how can i convince people that this is what i want. Someone at my work told me to listen to my heart and nothing else in my heart i cant do it...please help..
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy(no one understands)


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Pat
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Date Posted: 07/15/06 12:12pm

Hi, Jacqueline,

I am so happy you have decided to keep your baby. You will be much happier following your heart.

Think about what you said. You said you don't want to kill your baby. Think about that for awhile. What does it mean to kill? Are you a killer? Obviously not! Nobody else is thinking about this. They're playing games with their heads. Your baby is depending on you for your protection, and you want to protect your baby! Just keep this thought in your head, and really think about it, every chance you get.

As for everyone else, they don't have to live inside your mind and your spirit. They wouldn't actually do it. You would. Just tell them that you have made your decision, your mind is made up, and it's not open to discussion.

These other people are thinking about other issues, I'm sure. You probably face some difficulties you will have to work through. I hope you will go to a crisis pregnancy agency and start to work on the things you need to deal with, the practicalities of it. They can give you all kinds of help. Once you start to solve the practical problems, you will feel more firm and settled about your decision, more at peace.

You can even tell people you are working on the practical issues. But tell them that you aren't going to discuss that with them until they stop advising you to kill your baby. Use those words with them. And if they don't leave you alone, walk away, or hang up, or whatever you have to do to end the conversation. If they follow you, walk away again, and tell them, I am leaving the room; don't follow me.

Once they see that your mind is made up, they'll leave you alone. It may take awhile.

As for your boyfriend, he willingly did something that caused him to become a father. He doesn't get a free pass. You have to deal with it. He can leave; you can't. So he doesn't get any sympathy from me. He isn't willing to take the responsibility. That said, I will explain that most men don't really connect with a pregnancy at first. They have to see some evidence. They have to feel the baby move, or see your body change, or see an ultrasound, or hear a heartbeat. Maybe your boyfriend will come around; give him time. But don't give him any slack on his demands. He has no right to ask this of you.

Patricia Heaton said that a woman who has an unplanned pregnancy is entitled to experience unplanned joy. This is my wish and prayer for you.

We'll be here to help you work through the problems and for any occasion when you just need to vent or feel like sharing something good. We will also pray for you, that God will give you the peace and strength to carry out your decision and not let yourself be swayed by what other people want.

Hugs,
Pat
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy(no one understands)


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 07/15/06 3:13pm

Hi Jacequline,

I have a lot of empathy for you. You've made a good decision, one that you will be inexpressibly thankful for, but I can understand why you'd feel lonely in the lack of support and enthusiasm you have in those closest to you.

I think you're correct in turning the question of whether or not it's selfish to 'do this to Dominic' to whether or not it's selfish to ask you to kill another human being you have instincts against killing, especially when it's ultimately your life, your body, and your choice that you will have to live with.

It might be encouraging to know that six months from now, if not sooner, you'll likely have all or most of the support you're hoping for as it becomes apparent to parents and friends that you're keeping the little one. It happens all the time; people eventually do a 180.

But I know that doesn't help you now when you're adjusting yourself to the hugeness of the fact that you're going to be having a baby. Hopefully you can derive some comfort and even joy right now in knowing that you're making a good decision, one that affirms life and beauty, and that you're already being a good mother to your baby by standing up in their defense.

Please come here and vent anytime. And CONGRATULATIONS!! I think God has intervened with grace and granted you wisdom in protecting the life of your baby, and I think the road ahead will hold much more joy than trials for you.

Heather
[> [> Subject: Re: First pregnancy(no one understands)


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Melanie
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Date Posted: 07/16/06 12:22am

Hi Jacqueline,

I think you actually hit the nail on the head. Poor Dom, you won't harm his baby, but no empathy for you if you don't kill your child? I don't think people often reason that part through.

There are people out there, including us, who will be supportive. Do your best to find and surround yourself with those people. Also, the best thing you can do is stand firm. The more firmly you get across that an abortion isn't in the plans, the more likely it is for people to get the notion out of their minds. IN a few months the baby will be obvious and abortion is likely to seem less like something that can be pushed for.

I had to chuckle about them saying it wasn't fair to Dom. I guess I was raised with the notion that "life's not fair." I think my kids knew it by heart. LOL It might be a good retort.

If you need support near you, you might try a Crisis Pregnancy Center. They will support your decision to keep your baby and maybe you will feel less isolated until everyone else comes around.

And please continue to come here and let us all now how you are doing and vent if you need to.

--Melanie
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Author:
luka
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Date Posted: 07/16/06 2:18am

Yep i have to agree with what Heather said people do come around once they know that you are not going to have an abortion. Because the more advanced your pregnancy becomes the harder it will be for them to deny the fact that this is a baby we are talking about here (even though we know that it is allways your baby from now untill the end of his or her life). It would be blantantly cruel of them to abandon you when all you did was keep your baby , i would be surprised if when you are visibly pregnant or when you have your baby in your arms that they would still be telling you 'oh you should have had an abortion blah blah." Unfortunately for some people even other women what they can't feel, let alone see can make it easy for them to pretend that there isn't a growing baby inside not only that but it's not just a growing baby inside, it's 'your' growing baby, your little boy or girl in there. Your poor boyfriend? He has all the support in the world right now for not wanting his own child! Youre the one i have sympathy for not him. I hope he apologises and thanks you for being strong when this baby is born because you deserve that at the very least. Once again i will say that if he can look at an ultrasound picture of yours and his baby or after your baby is born if he can look at him or her and say nope still think this was a mistake how could you have done this to me? Then what sort of human being is he anyway? To be able to look at his newborn child and wish he or she was not here.
I have some support regarding my pregnancy with my mother and grandmother but appart from that i am also aware of my babys father not wanting my child also so i understand how it feels to know in your bones that youre doing the right thing but to have alot of other people saying you're not or worse in my case. It's very confusing! More so if you buy into the many and varried ways that they are trying to convince you that you should abort your baby. Imagine if you had an abortion based on what they said and inevitably you would feel hollow and depressed and a whole bunch of other inexplicable emotions. The people urging you to have an abortion would be celebrating inside happy that you did what was in their minds 'the right thing' waiting for you to just 'get over it'. Ugh it makes me ill to think about it. Be strong and let them feel ashamed when your beautiful baby has arrived.
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Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/16/06 6:43am

My poor sweet boyfriend i finally told him last night that i dont think i can go through with having an abortion. Dom is not one to verbalize anything he keeps everything in. I actually wrote him a letter of everything i felt how it felt to have his growing child inside of me. After he read the letter he just put it down, put his hand over his face and cried and cried..its the first time he cried infront of me. I hugged him and i cried with him and we just hugged each other and cried together with no words. Eventually i asked him he had to say something...he just said im not ready for this...i said and you think i am...and we just cried some more..no words were ever spoken nothing was ever said. We spent the night together...and he told me he understands how i feel...i dont know all this means i hope it means hes gonna be there if i keep the baby. what do you guys think??
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Rachel O
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Date Posted: 07/16/06 8:37am

hi there,

i went thru the very same thing as you - and it was a very hard 9 months. my sig. other wasn't with me on the decision to parent until he saw the baby.

if you want my advice -the best decisions are made from love - not fear or money.

your baby chose you - and needs you. get all the rest and good food you can - and try to make new friends if the old ones are negative,

this too, shall pass - these are words i now live by. god bless you and good luck.
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Sharon
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Date Posted: 07/16/06 12:44pm

Jacqueline,

Wow...from this latest post of yours, I think your boyfriend sounds like a very sensitive soul. I know that in the ealier posts you mention that he wants (or wanted) you to abort, but the fact that he 1) cried, and 2) he said exactly what was on his heart ("I don't think I'm ready for this" - BTW, I loved your honest answer back to him - perfect), and that he simply held you for a long time...all of those things tell me that IF he's not going to support you wholeheartedly right now, he will almost undoubtedly come around to supporting you AND his precious child when a little time passes and, as some of the other posters mentioned, the baby becomes more concrete to him. That's not to say he might not lean on you initially to abort - he might. But, stand strong, even it if means distancing yourself from him temporarily. I truly believe he sounds like one who will come around. And, like one of the other posters mentioned, he will be GRATEFUL to you one day when he sees and holds his little one.

Rarely do ANY of us feel ready for a pregnancy. In fact, even in cases where a pregnancy was PLANNED, sometimes the parents have ambivalent feelings. It's a big step. It's an important milestone in our lives. (Nine months gives us LOTS of time to get used to the idea ;-)

BTW, you might want to invite him to post to this board. We occasionally have men post and we talk with them and help them process through their feelings. (This is one of the most awesome collections of women I know - the women who post to this board: Shelly, Tracy, Pat, Luka, Rachel O, Heather, Melanie...you have found an incredible source of support, wisdom, and advice. I agree with one of the other posters, it's evidence of God's grace in your life that you stumbled across this board ;-)

God bless you...and your little one...and Dom ;-)

Sharon
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Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/16/06 1:38pm

Dom just called me and told me that he cant speak to me or see me today that he needs to think and that he will talk to me tomorrow. Im scared i dont want to loose him. I just want things to go back how they used to be where our biggest problem was where we were going to eat dinner that night. I have to go for dinner in 2 hours for my cousin and i's birthday...i hope i can keep it together. Please pray for us.
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luka
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Date Posted: 07/17/06 5:12pm

Jaquline it may not be as bad as you're worried it is. He is only saying he needs a day to get his head around all of what you have just told him which is pretty reasonable actually. What i am saying as just as you are preparing yourself for the worst you should also keep in mind the possiblity that he may decide to stand by you and even if he doesn't there is still the very distinct possiblity that he will come around at the very latest when he see's his newborn child. Your breath will be taken away when you see your little baby for the first time. They are so small and delicate and perfect. Oh and their first gummy lilttle smiles can seriously melt the hardest of hearts. All of this and more you have to look forward to :)
I think it's beautiful that you were able to write your boyfriend a letter because that way he is able to read what's in your heart without interuptions from either of you. He will have a chance to take it all in and read it over if he needs to. I am feeling very hopeful about your situation. I envy the response you recieved from your babys father compared to mine he sounds like he might be an ok sort of guy. Mine begged and screamed and cried (not in sympathy) for me to not do this to him , then told he flat out 'i don't want 'it', get rid of 'it'. Later he threatened me and abused verbally in front of our children and a bunch of others. Fortunatelty and unfortunately i have experienced enough drama in my life to realise that this will all blow over and there are better days ahead. I don't pretend that i will ever trust my babys father again or will ever see him the same way or that we will ever be anything other than parents to our children. But i do know that this baby is a blessing and he or she is here for many reasons. One of which i am allready incredibly greatful for, which is that i am finally free of the shackles of my past attachment to a man who i at last realise has little regard for me. I am so greatful that i can finally move on in every respect without looking back. I have not been given anything i can't handle i know that. And you will too. It's just that this is your first baby and under any circumstances your first child is scary because you have no real idea of what to expect no matter how many books you read. Seriously though i think the hardest part of being a first time mum is adjusting to the interupted sleep and that's only a temporary situation. BTW i highly recomend breatfeeding i have bottle fed and breast fed and my breastfed baby was way more settled and contented :)
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Heather
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Date Posted: 07/17/06 11:37pm

Hi Jacqueline,

I agree with Luka about the breastfeeding. It's an amazingly special time with your baby, too. Also, there's an excellent book for pregnant moms called 'What to Expect When You're Expecting" that is just awesome. It answers every question conceivable to a first time mom and has all sorts of other neat information. It's a pretty common book so you'd be able to find it at just about any bookstore and certainly online.

I know the next week or so is going to be kind of rocky for you and Dominic, but it will get smoother after adjustment to the news.

With Kindness,

Heather
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Sharon
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Date Posted: 07/17/06 8:38pm

Jacqueline,

I have a very odd request. Would you and Dom be interested in being interviewed by two documentary film makers from New York who are creating a documentary on the pro-choice and pro-life sides of the abortion issue? The documentary will be aired on Showtime in about 18 months. They've been interviewing me, among others, because of my pro-life position and my personal experience with almost aborting my first child.

I've shared with them how I've found that MANY times, the whole concept of "choice" is ridiculous. As Luka said, everyone around the woman seems for "choice" as long as the choice is to abort. They resist supporting her when HER choice is to try to protect and have her baby. The culture has become so insensitive to life that a woman is seen as "selfish" to WANT to protect her child. It's absurd...but it's very real. And women run up against these attitudes all the time. It's particularly hurtful and difficult for them because they run into these attitudes held by the very people they love the most.

Anyway, they've been traveling out here to South Dakota a number of times (since we're kind of on the radar these days with our House Bill 1215: Women's Health and Human Life Protection Act - known by the other side as the "abortion ban"). I mentioned that I visit this board and try to provide life-affirming support and encouragement to women facing unplanned pregnancies. I mentioned that MANY of the woman report feeling a sort of excitement and glimmering of "joy" - sometimes mixed with fear and apprehension, of course - when they first find out they're pregnant. But, it's when they tell their boyfriends or their husbands or their parents and find that THOSE people - people they love and trust and thought loved and wanted what was best for them - try to convince them to have an abortion that they feel abandoned and helpless and lost...and begin to view abortion as a viable option - even though they don't really WANT to have an abortion.

That's where this board comes in. We didn't know you before you came to this board...but we know you now, and we're praying for you and pulling for you. I KNOW you were drawn to this board by the grace of God.

So...back to my very odd request: Would you be interested in being a part of this documentary?

The filmmakers are Henry Corra and Celia Maysles. Their company is http://www.corrafilms.com

If you don't want to participate in this, that is perfectly ok and I understand completely. But, I thought I'd put it out there for you to think about.

Sharon
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Sharon
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Date Posted: 07/17/06 11:50am

I'll specifically lift you and Dom and your little one up in prayer over the next few days. Whenever you come to mind, I'll say a prayer for the three of you.

If it's alright with you, I'll add the three of you to my Bible study's prayer list.

Sharon
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Pat
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Date Posted: 07/18/06 8:14pm

Jacqueline,

I understand about not wanting to lose your boyfriend, believe me, I do. So I am going to tell you that if you DO have an abortion, you are almost certain to break up. If you don't, you may or may not. But if you have an abortion you don't want, you will come to resent him, and eventually you won't want to have anything to do with him.

You have a right to REFUSE abortion. This web site may help you:

abortionconcern.org

All of you are in our prayers.

Hugs,
Pat
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Jacqueline
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Date Posted: 07/18/06 1:15pm

now everyone here is going to hate me because i know your opinion on abortion. Everyone is just so worried about how this is going to affect them and my boyfriend was having a nervous break down my best friend is on his side...she even had an abortion but i guess it didnt affect her. this is all too much for me so i told everyone i will have the abortion...ive taken a couple days to myself not talking to anyone and i have tried to detach myself from my stomach. I feel nothing right now...and this is not what i want but the decision has been made for me. I know you guys will say everything and anything to get me to change my mind...but right now i cant hear anything anyone has to say. i dont know if this is the right choice...but when i go to the appointment if i feel this is something i really cant do i have no problem waliking out of the hospital...i will not go through with it if i feel its not the right choice...right now i dont know i think i need to be in the hospital minutes away from doing it to know if im making the right choice...i know this sounds sick to some people!! please pray for me and my bf ..im sorry and i thank everyone here so much because i was always pro choice but after this its not something i will ever adbise any woman to do..i think its wrong.....im so sorry
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Heather
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Date Posted: 07/18/06 4:55pm

Hi Jacequeline,

Please know that you will be in the prayers of many, and you're totally welcome here regardless of what choice you wind up making.

With Kindness,

Heather
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luka
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Date Posted: 07/18/06 5:00pm

I'm not going to give you a hard time about your decision. I have had abortions myself i am in no position to judge you. It's just that all of us women can hear very clearly that you want to keep your baby and we know that when those feelings exist they don't go away after you terminate the babys life. We don't want you to suffer and yes we don't want you to kill your child. But none of us can stop you from doing it either we can only listen and advise you should you ask us what we think. Like i have said before we have nothing personally to gain from telling you you shouldn't abort. I have been there though and i know that every pregnancy i wanted my baby and the ones i terminated still haunt me today. It's no small thing to have an abortion it truely is killing another human being, your own baby. I have tried my best to explain the feelings i had after having an abortion but words are probably futile to truely explain. But you feel it -this gut feeling right down in the pit of your stomach. Maybe you go ahead with the abortion because some part of you thinks it doesn't count as a life but you feel it -i felt it- afterwards. Its a tangible feeling of losing something- someone. I guess youre about to find out what i am talking about soon enough...
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Sharon
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Date Posted: 07/18/06 8:34pm

Jacqueline,

Your only responsibility is to yourself and your little one right now. Those around you who are pushing you to do this aren't going to have to live with your decision like you will. Your best friend who doesn't seem affected by her abortion may very well be needing to maintain an "it didn't phase me" frame of mind in order to NOT feel whatever pain is waiting there. She may need to be defending abortion as a reasonable option because if she acknowledges that the reality that abortion is not the best choice for you, that brings into question whether or not abortion was the right choice for her. In fact, she probably really needs compassion, even though she doesn't think anything is wrong. I don't want to say it, but it could even be that she's afraid of your being (and continuing to be) pregnant: it brings her abortion into even sharper focus.

Jacqueline, I will pray that something happens either when you're at that clinic or ideally before you even get there that you will see as a sign that you aren't supposed to abort your baby. Clearly, you don't want to do this. So, that means this omst certainly is not the right choice for you. It may seem to be the "right" choice for those around you, but it's clearly not the right choice for you.

You and Dom and your baby continue to be in my prayers.

Sharon
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Lahela
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Date Posted: 07/18/06 8:47pm