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Subject: information about nuerolinguistics


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Date Posted: 01:49:19 03/04/03 Tue

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Subject: The Truth About NLP


Author:
Ex-NLP Person
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Date Posted: 00:39:15 12/24/03 Wed

I wanted to write a piece on what I have gleaned from the study of "Neurolinguistic Programming," hereafter refered to as "NLP." My first encounter with it was when I went to a Tony Robbins "Firewalk Seminar" in 1984. After going through the seminar and walking over the hot coals, I thought that my life would be totally transformed, and that the hundreds of dollars I spent would be worth it; even though I could not really afford the money I had just blown on the seminar. Needless to say, when everything wore off and nothing changed, I really felt ripped-off. At first I attributed it to my own ignorance, in not being sufficiently knowledgeable on the subject of NLP. So I spent some time reading Tony Robbins' book: "Unlimited Power," as well as studying the works of Bandler and Grinder, such as "Trance-Formations" and "Frogs Into Princes." I will say at the outset, that NLP is a very complicated subject, the mastery of which is well outside the range of average intelligence. I have studied it off-and-on since 1984, and I cannot say that I have mastered it by any means. However, I have studied it long enough to know what NLP is, and what it can and cannot do. I am disgusted by the claims made by NLP practitioners as to its "theraputic" and "transformational power," to "get all you want out of life," and all this, these claims are absolute bunk. NLP has no value as a form of therapy whatsoever, in that it was not designed for that purpose. NLP on the other hand, is a "Persuasion Psychology" based on neuro-scientific, behavioral, and hypnotic models, and in this sense it is very powerful. With NLP you can manipulate anyone into anything, and its use of neurosensory models combined with hypnotic techniques can create very powerful; yet temporary effects. But since NLP uses transformational grammer in relation to sensory feedback (Visual, Auditory, Kinesthetic) to elicit both influence and trance-states, its effects are incredibly powerful from the standpoint of inducing powerful short-term experiences, as well as gaining undue influence. And this is what its for. Bandler and Grinder rant and rave about having invented NLP, and it is possible that Bandler at least may have had a hand in its development. Its real origins begin with Col. John Alexander of the US Defense Department. NLP was developed as a tool of PSYOPs, or psychological warfare, designed to gain influence over people, (even enemies) rapidly and effectively. It could even be considered a form of short-term "brainwashing," for quick logistical purposes. The most powerful aspects of NLP come from the hypnotic models of Milton Erickson that it uses. Erickson was probably the greatest clinical hypnotist in the world. It would not be possible to get into all of the models of NLP here, because it is a complex subject. But some of the ones that are most powerful, are taken from Erickson's hypnotic systems based on an illusion of choice, that effects the unconscious mind, no matter what the conscious mind decides. e.g. "Would you like to read this whole article as you continue to do whatever it is you are doing?" This implies that whether you continue whatever it is you are doing, that you will read the whole article either way. Since I do not know what you are doing, I cannot incorporate it, if I did I would. e.g. "Did you know that you can find this article to be interesting?" This implies that you will find this article to be interesting on an unconscious level, whether you know it consciously or not. These are called "Pre-suppositions," and NLP uses these Ericksonian modes, along with many others. You have "Binds:" "Forget to remember to forget to try in vain to find this article interesting." If you try in vain to find this article interesting, that means you will find it to be boring, yet you won't, because I told you to forget the whole sentence. You have VAK's where people define their sensory models that you can use to influence them. e.g. I ask: "What makes you feel generous today?" He answers: "Well I picture an idea, *visual internal,* and say to myself, *auditory digital* that seeing you, *visual external* makes me want to help you out." I say: "Great, well imagine this scenario: *visual internal* when you hear what I have to say you will tell yourself, *auditory digital* that you can see obviously right in front of you, *visual external* that loaning me money is a good idea right now." This is called "eliciting a strategy." This person's neuro-associations for being generous were modeled and then used against him. This is one example about how NLP can be abused. But don't get tempted to misuse it, because people get temporarily "faked-out," but then they wise up later and get very mad. You have other things like "Submodalities:" e.g. Do people match or mis-match data? Do they move toward things or away from things?" Do they "sort by self?" i.e. understand the world on their own, or "sort by others?" i.e. understand the world based on how society tells them that it is. Are they Visual, Auditory, or Kinesthetic in their orientation? Do they feel what they express, or do they talk fast like they are seeing everything they are saying." You also have ambiguities: "They sure are feeling people!" This could mean that they are empathetic people, or literally touching people. Ambiguous terms that imply both nouns and adjectives are taken as commands at the unconscious level. NLP modes are exhaustive, I cannot get into too many of them here. But the idea is that NLP is actually a science of coercion, for the short term. It does this by using the neuro-sensory analogs of language to produce trance or effect persuasion in some form. From the standpoint of therapy in the long term it is useless, in that it deals only with "mental process", and not with "mental content". Only by effecting the contents and the qualitative aspects of the psyche can any change be produced, and doing this is very difficult, if not impossible in many cases. NLP is too nominalized in a "one-size-fits-all," kind of way. "Process therapy" deals only with externals; and even if it produces profound states of trance or influence, it only brushes the surface and does not change what needs to be changed deep inside the psyche. That is why NLP has been likened to chinese food; It is a great meal, but you get hungry again in a few hours. Tony Robbin's offshoot systems, along with Bandler and Grinder's variations are all pretty much the same stuff. NLP could not keep Bandler from having a substance abuse problem in the 1980's. NLP could not save Tony Robbins' marriage. "Physican heal thyself!" If your goal is to ruthlessly manipulate people and deal with the bad karma and enemies, then NLP is worth every dime. If your goal is to heal yourself and change your life, then take a walk on the beach, or engage in some introspection on your own. With NLP, you will just be pissing away your money that could be better spent elsewhere.
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Subject: Mathematical aplications on neurolinguistics


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Date Posted: 11:35:27 04/22/02 Mon

Hello,

I am interested in knowing if there exists any publication, journal, web page, etc. about mathematical methods on linguistics based on neurological models of language.
Please note the reference of any information that anybody knows. I am manily interested in morphology and mental lexicons.

Thanks very much,
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Date Posted: 16:15:18 06/23/03 Mon
Author: sandy
Subject: No scam... Turn $6 into thousands GUARENTEED!!!

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>
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>(Print it out or download it.) Follow the simple
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>
>:
>: It's easy. It's legal. And, your investment is only
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>
>:
>: IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not
>indecent; it is not illegal; and it is 99% no risk -
>it really works!
>:
>: If all of the following instructions are adhered to,
>you will receive extraordinary dividends.
>
>:
>: PLEASE NOTE:
>: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $60,000
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>remains
>: successful because of the honesty and integrity of
>the participants. Please continue its success by
>carefully adhering to
>: the instructions.
>
>:
>: : You will now become part of the Mail Order
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>: : your product is not solid and tangible, it's a
>service. You are in
>: : the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many
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>the money made
>: : from the mailing lists is secondary to the income,
>which is made from
>: : people like you and me asking to be included in
>that list.
>
>:
>: : Here are the 4 easy steps to success:
>
>:
>: : STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write
>the following on
>: : each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING
>LIST." Now
>: : get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of
>the 6 pieces of
>: : paper so the bill will not be seen through the
>envelope (to prevent
>: : thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6
>envelopes and seal
>: : them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each
>with a piece of
>: : paper stating the above phrase, your name and
>address, and a $1.00
>: : bill. What you are doing is creating a service.
>THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
>: : LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and
>you are paying for
>: : it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a
>little worried
>: : about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it
>out with the U.S.
>: : Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed
>that it is indeed
>: : legal. Mail the 6 envelopes to the following
>addresses:
>:
>: :
>: : #1) Mary Adam
>: : 1558 Carlton Court
>: Corona, CA 92881
>
>: : #2) Ross Kassis
>: : 1724 Peggy Court
>: Petaluma, CA 94954
>
>: : #3) Brad Schario
>: : 955 Menoher Blvd.
>: Johnstown, PA 15905
>
>: : #4) Julian Dullinger
>: : 307 Cleveland St Se
>: Ronan, MT, 59864
>
>: : #5) Darrell Robinson
>: : 6929 Thamesford Dr.
>: Ft. Wayne, IN 46835

>: : #6) Colby Danklef
>: : 967 North 1020 East
>: : Pleasant Grove, UT 84062
>
>: : STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you
>see above, move
>: : the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4,
>etc...) and add YOUR
>: : Name as number 6 on the list.
>
>:
>: : STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to
>keep this article as
>: : close to original as possible. Now, post your
>amended article to at
>: : least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to
>24,000 groups) All
>: : you need is 200, but remember, the more you post,
>the more money you
>: : make! You won't get very much unless you post like
>crazy.
>
>:
>: : This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts,
>refer to Title 18
>: : Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws.
>: : Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and,
>whenever you need money,
>: : you can use it again, and again.
>:
>: : PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains
>successful because of the
>: : honesty and integrity of the participants and by
>their carefully
>: : adhering to the directions. Look at it this way.
>If you are of
>: : integrity, the program will continue and the money
>that so many
>: : others have received will come your way.
>
>:
>: : NOTE: You may want to retain every name and
>address sent to you,
>: : either on a computer or hard copy and keep the
>notes people send you.
>: : This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a
>service. (Also, it might
>: : be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper
>to reduce the risk
>: : of mail theft.)
>
>:
>: : So, as each post is downloaded and the directions
>carefully followed,
>: : six members will be reimbursed for their
>participation as a List
>: : Developer with one dollar each. Your name will
>move up the list
>: : geometrically so that when your name reaches the
>#1 position you will
>: : be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What
>an opportunity for
>: : only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people
>listed above) Send
>: : it now, add your own name to the list and you're
>in business!
>
>:
>: : ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO
>NEWSGROUPS------------
>
>:
>: : Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire
>letter to do your own
>: : posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning
>of this letter and
>: : drag your cursor to the bottom of this document,
>and select 'copy'
>: : from the edit menu. This will copy the entire
>letter into the
>: : computer's memory.
>: : Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your
>cursor at the top
>: : of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select
>'paste'. This will
>: : paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that
>you can add your name
>: : to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as
>a .txt file. If
>: : you want to do your postings in different
>settings, you'll always
>: : have this file to go back to.
>: : Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try
>searching for
>: : various newsgroups (on-line forums, message
>boards, chat sites,
>: : discussions.)
>: : Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this
>article as a new
>: : message by highlighting the text of this letter
>and selecting paste
>: : from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will
>be the header that
>: : everyone sees as they scroll through the list of
>postings in a
>: : particular group, click the post message button.
>You're done with
>: : your first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All
>you have to do is
>: : jump to different newsgroups and post away, after
>you get the hang of
>: : it, it will take about 30 seconds for each
>newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE
>: : MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU
>WILL MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
>That's it! You will begin receiving money from around
>the world within days! You may eventually want to
>: : rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail
>you will receive. If
>: : you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name
>to use, as long as
>: : the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL
>THE ADDRESSES ARE
>: : CORRECT.**

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Date Posted: 00:21:20 04/27/03 Sun

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how to make quick money


How to make quick money by following these easy directions

I'd been looking for ways to raise money .I found text similar to this posted in another group
and thought I'd try it..When I read this I was very skeptical, but desperate-- I invested
EXACTLY $7.92 ... six $1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps ... and boy am I glad I did!!!
I then waited to watch the money come in, prepared to maybe receive about $1,000 to $1,500 in
cash or so. But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! : So, how much
did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of $17,542!!! I couldn't
believe it!! !! Now after almost six months, I am ready to do it again!!! I can finnaly pay off
my debts!
Here is the original post:
*****A little while back, I was browsing through a newsgroups, just like you are now, and came
across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks
with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam", but
like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you need to send $1.00
to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. So after thinking it over,
and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured: "what have I got to
lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right?" Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!!...
within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon,
but the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $20 . By the end of the second
week I had made a total of over $1,000 ! In the third week I had over $15,000 and it's still
growing.****
--Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works.... Read this entire message
carefully! (PRINT IT OR DOWNLOAD IT) I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly,
that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy!
IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off it is not indecent it is not illegal and it is virtually no
risk - it really works!!!! If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will
receive extraordinary dividends.
Here are the 3 easy steps to success:
STEP 1:
Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper
"PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the
6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope . (Also, it might be a good
idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to prevent thievery). Next, place one paper in each of
the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of
paper stating the phrase "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.", your name and address, and a
$1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are
requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little
skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the
U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6
envelopes to the following addresses:

#1)Jason Williamson 202 Park Dr. Ada, OK 74820


#2) Dennis E. Ribble RR3 Box 32-1B Benton, PA 17814


#3) Tim Baldwin RR3 Box 304 Inwood, WV 25428


#4) Lynn Reese 3212 Mesa Ave. Clifton, CO 81520


#5) Matt Kearney 22 Reardonsfield La. North Attleboro, MA 02763

#6)Nicholas Vandam 5200 Belmont Ave s Minneapolis MN 55419


REMEMBER TO PUT ENOUGH STAMPS ON YOUR ENVELOPES!!!!
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up
(6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list.
STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as
possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups-like this one.
(I think there are close to 2.4million groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you
post, the more money you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18
Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and,
whenever you need money, you can use it again, and again.
**PLEASE REMEMBER: that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of
the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you
are of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others have received will
come your way.
**NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard
copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service So,
as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed
for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the
list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands
of dollars in CASH!!!
**DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------
Step: 1)You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting.Simply put your
cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document,
and select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory.
....... 2)Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page.
From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that
you can add your name to the list.
........3)Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do your postings in different
settings, you'll always have this file to go back to.
.......4)Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various
newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.)
.......5)Visit these message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the
text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the
header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group,
click the post message button.You're done with your first one!Congratulations..THAT'S IT!
All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it,
it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST
A MINIMUM OF 200**
That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually
want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay
anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
**JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
**Now the WHY part:
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with
my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM
200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that
is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5
replies each, I will bring in an additional $125 ! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post
the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional
$626 ! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with
my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125 !!!
Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if
still ONLY 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625 ! With an original
investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the
latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your
name at number 6 again. And start posting again.
** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list
and not sending
the CASH to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much.i know someone
who did this and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he
sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $5.000.
This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without
costing
anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future CASH.
Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a list of everyone that sends
you CASH and
always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY
IS THE
BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the CASH!!
**The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are
joining the internet and reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you
afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so...
Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work. GOOD LUCK!!!!

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