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speedos -- Roger, Wed, 16 Nov 2011, 8:01:46 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Excuse the pun
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speedos -- Roger, Wed, 16 Nov 2011, 5:54:55 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
I think that one bombed Jay :)
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Irish Speedos -- :=), Fri, 11 Nov 2011, 3:03:51 (CPE-58-170-130-77.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au/58.170.130.77)
Paddy, who was on holiday from Ireland on Bondi beach Australia couldn't seem to make it with any of the girls, so he asked the local lifeguard for some advice.
Mate, it's obvious,' says the lifeguard, 'you're wearing them old baggy swimming trunks that make ya look like an old geezer. They're years outta style. You 're best bet is to grab yourself a pair of Speedos - about two sizes too small and drop a fist-sized potato down inside 'em. I'm tellin' ya mate...you'll have all the babes ya want!'
The following weekend, Paddy hits the beach with his spanking new tight Speedos, and his fist-sized potato. Everybody on the beach was disgusted as he walked by, covering their faces, turning away, and laughing, looking sick! So Paddy went back to the lifeguard again and asked him, 'What's wrong now?'
Bloody Hell!' said the lifeguard, 'Maaaaate. The potato goes in the front!'
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lol -- :=), Thu, 10 Nov 2011, 1:48:26 (CPE-58-170-130-77.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au/58.170.130.77)
Van der Merwe had never been out of South Africa before and was visiting Bondi Beach, Australia.
He spotted a long line of black dots out in the water and said to an Aussie, who was sitting close by:
"What are all those little black things out there?"
"They're buoys,"said the Aussie.
"Boys?! wragtig ..."replied Van der Merwe. "What are they doing out there?"
"Holding up the shark nets,"the Aussie told him.
"Flippin” great country this!"said the South African, deeply impressed.
"We'd never get away with that at home! ! ! "
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That is beautiful -- Maggi, Thu, 10 Nov 2011, 0:33:07 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
Thanks Wendy, that is beautiful.
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THE FINAL INSPECTION -- WENDY, Wed, 09 Nov 2011, 17:53:10 (vc-gp-s-41-26-118-43.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.26.118.43)
This is so true - only those that have been there may understand :-
THE FINAL INSPECTION
...
The soldier stood and faced God,
... Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his shoes were shining,
Just as brightly as his brass.
'Step forward now, you soldier,
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To My Church have you been true?'
The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
'No, Lord, I guess I haven’t.
Because those of us who carry guns,
Can't always be a saint.
I've had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough.
And sometimes I've been violent,
Because the world is an awfully rough place.
But, I never took a penny,
That wasn't mine to keep,
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills got just too steep.
And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.
I know I don't deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around anyway,
Except to calm their fears.
If you've a place for me here, Lord,
It needn't be so grand.
I never expected or had too much really,
But if you don't, I'll understand.
There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the saints had often trod.
As the soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.
'Step forward now, you soldier,
You've borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell.'
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. -- Ray, Wed, 09 Nov 2011, 15:09:41 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Yes that's right Bob.
“We are the finest race in the world and the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race.”
So lets make more babies, so Ladies, anyone need some help??
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Jeremy Paxman: what empire did for Britain -- lkaasaskkla, Wed, 09 Nov 2011, 9:17:08 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
There is no completely reliable estimate of how many people left Britain for a new life overseas during the years of empire, but most of them never returned, and, by 1900, a majority of English-speakers were living outside Europe. The British diaspora created a network of family connections stretching from a grey, damp island in the North Atlantic to dusty sheep stations in Australia, rough-and-ready mining towns in Africa and snowy wildernesses in Canada. So, while at any one time the imperial life was being lived only by a minority of the population, the colonial experience was familiar to many more.
When the British went to live in the lands they conquered, they were confronted immediately with the question of what made them distinct from the people among whom they lived. Indeed, when you read the popular literature of the period, its most offensive characteristic is the assumption of racial superiority over “brutes” and “savages”. As Cecil Rhodes put it, “We are the finest race in the world and the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/8801370/Jeremy-Paxman-what-empire-did-for-Britain.html
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The Conquest of the West -- asasas, Tue, 08 Nov 2011, 4:24:10 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
On Oct. 31, the U.N. Population Fund marks the arrival of the 7 billionth person on Earth and raises the population estimate for the planet at mid-century to 9.3 billion people.
There is a possibility, says the United Nations, that, by century's end, world population may reach 15 billion. What does this mean for Western civilization?
It may not matter, except to identify who inherits the estate. For while world population is exploding, Western peoples are dying. Not a single European nation, except Muslim Albania, has a birth rate that will enable it to replace its present population.
By mid-century, Western man will be down to 12 percent of world population. By century's end, he will be a tiny fraction, roughly equal to the white population of Rhodesia when Robert Mugabe came to power.
The demographic winter of the West has set in.
more
http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2011/10/28/the_conquest_of_the_west
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All BT Users! -- Ray, Tue, 08 Nov 2011, 3:12:32 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
In the world of hi-tech gadgetry, I've noticed that more and more people who send text messages and emails have long forgotten the art of capitalization. For those of you who fall into this category, please take note of the following statement... "Capitalization is the difference between,on the way home, letting your Uncle Jack off, and letting your uncle jack off."
Is everybody clear on that?
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. -- Ray, Mon, 07 Nov 2011, 19:39:41 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Much happiness.
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Thanks -- Maggi, Mon, 07 Nov 2011, 5:59:14 (ppp121-44-53-94.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.53.94)
Roger... Thanks for the laugh, I need it.
Barry... It is annoying having to read or skip ones way through the next bit of information about skills shortages in Australia... Hell I live in rural Aus and know about the chronic shortages etc. the winge moment aside. Hope all is well your end. Starting to get hot here, 35 degrees on
Saturday.. Perfect braai weather and time to introduce the boyfriend and husband to be to good old sadza, thanks for the supply Franklins.
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Palace -- Roger, Mon, 07 Nov 2011, 3:33:57 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Hey Barry,
I remember the Palace, it also had the Carousel Bar. Do you remember Friar Tucks Steakhouse, on Fife Street I think, fabulous. I also always stayed at the Cecil when in Bulawayo, not so good now I hear. Used to have a few beers at the Selborne.
Sorry, but I just had to post this, hope it does not offend.
Aussie stockman’s honeymoon
An Aussie stockman and his wife had just got married and found a nice motel for their wedding night. The man approached the front desk and asked for a room.
He said, 'We're on our honeymoon and we need a nice room, with a good strong bed."
The clerk winked, 'You want the 'Bridal'?'
The drover reflected on this for a moment and then replied, "Nah, I reckon not. I'll just hold onto her ears until she gets used to it."
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BOOORING -- BARRY (NOTHING CHANGES), Sun, 06 Nov 2011, 22:46:57 (d175-39-30-58.sbr800.nsw.optusnet.com.au/175.39.30.58)
Maggie
You are as usual 110% correct it is really tedious waiting all this stupid soap box drama and waiting for the next incarnation of Bob the blogger . He changes the names but the subject matter stays the same.
Hell what happened to RHODESIANS????. Friday nights at the Palace bar was much more interesting.
The BT was something I really enjoyed. Now its a place I visit just in case there is something of common interest. Sadly its always some guy challenging another or an endless reposting old a boring TV items." La how the life goes on"
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. -- Maggi, Sun, 06 Nov 2011, 0:45:01 (ppp121-44-53-94.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.53.94)
How sad that this site has become nothing more than a posting place for nothing worth reading apart from the odd posting.. Maybe it is about time that the people in charge of the site asked or removed some of the postings... I really do not give a rat butts about "do you watch timeline?" etc. Etc. Etc etc.
Jay - if you still reading, got to meet Leo Sayer, and asked the inevitable question, yes he did do some stuff in Rhodesia, loved the country and got into a boat load of trouble for it.. Very interesting man once you get him away from the screaming teens etc etc..
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My Tjollie Carl -- Jo Pete, Fri, 04 Nov 2011, 15:34:23 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Carl, this is the best advice I can offer you.
You tell us that you are a man of means. So what you do is this: Jump on a plane to Heathrow. Catch a train to Essex. Grab a taxi to your daughter's address. Tjoon her howzit., But then maybe you won't be welcome.
To me this seems like the obvious thing to do, or am \i missing something here?
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Looking for friends -- Antis (Happy), Fri, 04 Nov 2011, 12:32:31 (NoHost/196.29.130.209)
I am looking for several of my old matic class mates that matriculated end 1962 at Bothashof Salisburg. Lynette Bekker, originally from Umtali. Do not know her married surname. Ben Viljoen from the Chipinga area. Believe he is still in that area. Roy Wright, Matie Oosthuizen, Johan Niewoudt, originally from Lusaka Zambia.
If anybody can help me you can email me at antis@worldonline.co.za
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Roger Whittaker Kenyan safari Part 1 -- kajsksjak, Wed, 02 Nov 2011, 23:39:01 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUEMWbOrUqo
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Immigration -- Roger, Wed, 02 Nov 2011, 8:01:54 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Question - Are there too many immigrants in Britain?
17% said yes;
11% said No;
72% said "I am not understanding the question please."
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R.W.C. -- roger, Wed, 02 Nov 2011, 6:52:49 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
The Truth About Graham Henry.
Three Rugby Coaches – Robbie Deans, Martin Johnson and Graham Henry - are invited to heaven watch the World Cup final with God.
God decides who will sit next to him by asking them the same question.
God asks Deans first: "What do you believe?" Deans says, "I believe in hard work and staying true to family, teammates and friends."
God is impressed by Deans and offers him a seat to his left..
God then turns to Johnson and asks, "What do you believe?" Johnson says, "I believe loyalty, discipline, courage and honour are the fundamentals of life."
God is again impressed and offers the Englishman a seat to his right.
Finally, God turns to Henry: "What do you believe?" Henry then says, "I believe you're in my seat."
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Dooder -- Carl Schmidt, Tue, 01 Nov 2011, 15:21:29 (41-135-43-98.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.43.98)
Carly S -- dooder, Mon, 31 Oct 2011, 22:51:15 (host86-162-173-91.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.173.91)
so Carl - back to the question at hand. How have you got on with making contact with your daughter ?
Have you tried phoning ?
[BTW i am not being pejorative]
Hi Dooder, thank-you for your assistance and interest, it is greatly appreciated. To answer your question, no I have as yet not had any success in any contact whatsoever. I have tried all avenues and have drawn blanks in every single one. I have also tried phoning with no success at all. I will however, continue in my efforts and will succeed, even if it is the last thing that I achieve in my life. I know that there will be someone out there that will one day read one of my posts and will respond with a positive result. Should there be any futher assistance that you could render I will highly price such. Best Regards Carl
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Do you watch Landline? -- rtrtrtrt, Mon, 31 Oct 2011, 23:45:09 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Landline is an Australian national rural issues television program broadcast on ABC1. Presented by Anne Kruger, the program discusses rural issues regarding farming, mining and fisheries from around Australia. Each week the show wraps up with an update on commodity prices for livestock and mining, and detailed national weather rainfall reports.
You can also watch online:
Video
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/
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Carly S -- dooder, Mon, 31 Oct 2011, 22:51:15 (host86-162-173-91.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.173.91)
so Carl - back to the question at hand. How have you got on with making contact with your daughter ?
Have you tried phoning ?
[BTW i am not being pejorative]
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Skills Australia Needs Events -- sdsdks, Mon, 31 Oct 2011, 22:30:55 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Earlier this month, the Australian government ran events in Athens and Berlin called Skills Australia Needs. It was an attempt to lure Greeks and Germans to fill shortages in industries such as healthcare and engineering.
It's all very well to attract foreign workers, but once they are here and working in Aussie companies, what happens?
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/small-business/blogs/work-in-progress/culture-shock-working-on-foreign-shores-20111028-1mmgo.html#ixzz1cOcXsLem
Skills Australia Needs Events
Skills Australia Needs events are designed to help address current skill shortages in Australia by promoting skilled migration options. Australian employers and state and territory governments can participate in the events and meet people with the skills and experience needed to fill job vacancies in Australia which cannot be filled through the local labour market.
Upcoming Events
http://www.immi.gov.au/skillexpos/
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. -- Ray, Mon, 31 Oct 2011, 21:26:42 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Well, Carl certainly has livened thing up here.
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Jimbo -- Carl Schmidt, Mon, 31 Oct 2011, 8:25:38 (41-135-43-98.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.43.98)
Now that I use distasteful language the old Somerset West/Stellenbosch laddy can't take it and I'm now lacking in basic intelligence and education. However, it's fine for you to use it and you are of the opinion that you have plenty of intelligence and that you are well educated and I'm not. Nice one George, pull the other one. Take it like a man laddy not like a wimp. What you dish out is what you can expect back, it's as simple as that. Then you claim that your ou Shamwari has a twisted sense of humour, this is done to try and justify someone that slanders, degrades and abuses others. Well this is a brand new meaning of someone that slanders, degrades and abuses others, and the words "twisted sense of humour" is now used as you see fit and disregarding the actual meanings. Maybe, you should start rewriting the dictionary.
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Jimbo -- Carl Schmidt, Mon, 31 Oct 2011, 6:05:35 (41-135-43-98.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.43.98)
Water off a ducks back -- Jimbo, Fri, 28 Oct 2011, 22:39:48 (220-253-25-79.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.25.79)
Hey Pete, it doesn't take much to wind this clown Carl up. I have been called a lot worse and it is like water off a duck's back. Anyone who has to swear so much is lacking in basic intelligence and education.
If the above is fact, then you fall under the same category. You also lack basic intelligence and education.
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The Book that Changed Me -- rtrtrtrtr, Sun, 30 Oct 2011, 6:41:07 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Space Scientist Maggie Aderin-Pocock on how "Chocky" by John Wyndham was pivotal in overcoming her dread of reading. As a child Maggie and books simply didn't get on. She avoided them. Until a science fiction novel about a young boy, with an "imaginary" friend, fired her imagination to ask questions - a habit now central to her career as a scientist.
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006x3hl
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Jimbo -- dolf, Sat, 29 Oct 2011, 1:37:26 (CPE-121-215-128-228.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au/121.215.128.228)
Hey Jimbo you old poofter! you stopped posting because you couldn't hack comebacks, see you haven't given up Bullshitting.
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White man in black township -- Bob, Sat, 29 Oct 2011, 1:34:19 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
It is very rare for a white person in South Africa to move into a black township.
But in an effort to conquer his fears and mistrust of black people, a young white South African sound engineer was advised at a personal growth course to go and live in one.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2960262.stm
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Water off a ducks back -- Jimbo, Fri, 28 Oct 2011, 22:39:48 (220-253-25-79.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.25.79)
Hey Pete, it doesn't take much to wind this clown Carl up. I have been called a lot worse and it is like water off a duck's back. Anyone who has to swear so much is lacking in basic intelligence and education. I see Aus has beaten Sufefrica in the one day series. Yea! a good start to my day.
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Gen. John Hickman -- Jo Pete, Fri, 28 Oct 2011, 15:39:44 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. I'm hearing that Gen. Hickman has passed on. I think it must be true as the story comes from RLI sources in the UK. RIP. A great soldier whose career started in Malaya I think.
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carl Scmidt -- Jo Pete, Fri, 28 Oct 2011, 15:08:14 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Hey Carl. don't tjoon my tjollie JIMBO(TOT). I have revised my opinion of why your missus got the hell out.Your dissertations must have bored her to death, plus she doesn't understand Clutch.
It's okes like you that have chased us old hands off this forum to somewhere else.
I come back here only to pull the piss out of the likes of you.
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Jimbo -- Carl Schmidt, Fri, 28 Oct 2011, 13:40:17 (41-135-43-98.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.43.98)
Mnr Jimbo, lees hierdie stuk hier onder, en jy sal sien dat dit vir alle Rhodesiaaners is. Ek is net nie so lekker sekker van jou or die stuk waar hulle se "to strengthen and maintain the bond that residents of Rhodesia formed during its turbulent years".
Dan blyk dit dat jy voorstel dat jou ou Shamwari n "Rear gunner" is, met jou skrif van "What that prick Carl doesn't know is that you were heaping shit on the head of pricks long before you hit the wheelchair". Ek glo jou ou Shamwari, sal nie gelukig wees daar oor nie. Veder het jy die vermetelheid om te skryf dat ek n "prick" is. Wie de fok dink jy is jy. Jy is n nie eer n doos nie, want hom kan jy lek. Ook nie eers n halwe doos nie, want hom kan jy ook lek. Jy is sommer n halwe muul kont, want hy is niks werd. Dan as ek nie jou ou Shamwari ken nie, hou de fok virwag jy ek moet n insig he oor sy "twisted sense of humour". Bietjie, dom ne. Veder sit jy daar in Australia en skree jou bek af. Jy is seker een van die wat ek kan noem n "WHEN WEE". Jy was seker een van die eerstes wat weg gehardloop het toe mugabe in kom, en nou wil jy daar oorsee sit en jou bek rek. Jou bang gat. Soo nou kan jou ou Shamwari's jou "Meid" noem, want dit is wat jy is. Bly maar daar, want ons het nie dose soos jy hier nodag nie.
These pages are for Rhodesians everywhere! To re-establish lost contacts, to make new contacts, to catch up on news of Rhodesians, to advertise items for sale, and to strengthen and maintain the bond that residents of Rhodesia formed during its turbulent years.
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Jimbo -- Carl Schmidt, Fri, 28 Oct 2011, 9:03:38 (41-135-43-98.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.43.98)
Jimbo, takes a prick to recongnize a prick!!!!
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My shamwari Pete -- Jimbo, Fri, 28 Oct 2011, 6:39:10 (220-253-25-79.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.25.79)
Hey Pete my mate, I haven't been on here for a year or so and you are still going strong. What that prick Carl doesn't know is that you were heaping shit on the head of pricks long before you hit the wheelchair. From afar I see why his former wife took off and got as far away as possible. He also does not have an insight into that twisted sense of humour you have. What else can we do now that the rugby is finished for a while. I was pleasantly surprised that even after 50 years I can still understand the taal. Being an old Somerset West/Stellenbosch laddy, I had to be tweetalig or get my head rearranged. Very pleased to see that the spirit is still strong.
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life -- God -- Carl Schmidt, Thu, 27 Oct 2011, 8:09:39 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Dear Carl, I have seen your cry for help, and want to guide you in your life's plan. Yes there is a very close bond from associations in previous lifetimes with your daughter in England, you were mates, and she was your daughter in various lifetimes, but there is no future for you and her anymore in this and future lifetimes. The same for her mother. Both of you have learned from each other what you will ever learn.
However your present family will be associated with you again in future lifetimes, so strengthen the bonds.
Go in Peace and Love.
God.
Finally sanity has prevailed. Please mail me at carlissie@gmail.com. Thank-you.
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Donkey -- dolf, Thu, 27 Oct 2011, 2:01:05 (CPE-121-215-128-228.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au/121.215.128.228)
That would be a gay donkey called Bob.
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Zimbabwean man claims prostitute turned to donkey -- Bob, Wed, 26 Oct 2011, 22:15:45 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
A Zimbabwean man has told a court that he hired a prostitute who during the night transformed into a donkey, and that he is now "seriously in love" with the animal, according to state media.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8850298/Zimbabwean-man-claims-prostitute-turned-to-donkey.html
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Life -- God, Wed, 26 Oct 2011, 20:23:06 (NoHost/208.115.81.242)
Dear Carl, I have seen your cry for help, and want to guide you in your life's plan. Yes there is a very close bond from associations in previous lifetimes with your daughter in England, you were mates, and she was your daughter in various lifetimes, but there is no future for you and her anymore in this and future lifetimes. The same for her mother. Both of you have learned from each other what you will ever learn.
However your present family will be associated with you again in future lifetimes, so strengthen the bonds.
Go in Peace and Love.
God.
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Moving on -- Jo Pete, Wed, 26 Oct 2011, 12:09:57 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Jammer Carl but I don't speak much Clutch so I haven't a clue what you are saying.
But moving on Zimbabwe chased down NZ's total of 328 in the ODI at Queens ground yesterday with 1 ball and 1 wicket to spare. Brendon Taylor has had 2 centuries and a 75 in the 3 match series.
I really look forward to the lions vs Sharks Currie Cup final on Saturday. GO SHARKS!
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The Great Bilingual Debate -- Libra, Wed, 26 Oct 2011, 9:33:58 (5aceb26f.bb.sky.com/90.206.178.111)
And they world has the nerve to say that women bicker and bitch!!!!!!!!!
Will somebody kindly change the subject although the people are probably terrified of being saying anything these days.
Move on guys, for heavens sake.........
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Ray -- Carl Schmidt, Wed, 26 Oct 2011, 8:25:15 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Ray, ek is klaar met hierdie forum. Jy kan dink net wat jy wil, ek weet wat is waar en wat is nie. Julle dink dat julle kan maar hier doen en se net wat julle wil en dan waneer ek myself verdedig dan maak ek kak. Ek wonder wie het die kak begin? Jou ou maat Pete het die kak begin en as julle dink dat ek my bek gaan hou terwyl hey my sleg se en virkleineer, dan maak julle n baie groot fout. Maar stel jou gerus, ek sal nie weer hier pos nie want daar is mense hier wat dink hulle is God self. Sy verdiende loon is wat sy lot is vandag. Genuit maar julle en ek hoop jou ou maat kan ander mense uit los. Hy moet eder eers na hom self hyk voor hy anders wil sleg se.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 26 Oct 2011, 6:31:06 (adsl-69-235-200-217.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/69.235.200.217)
Carl daar is net een woord vir jou. Jy is bedonnerd. Jy maak net kak hier.
As alles wat jy se waar is, wat ek nie glo nie, dan kan jy gelukkig wees, 'n mens kan nie altyd absoluut alles kry wat hy wil he nie, maar dit lyk vir my dat jy goed genoeg doen, as wat jy se waar is. So wees tevrede met jou lot.
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Jo-Pete -- Carl Schmidt, Tue, 25 Oct 2011, 16:02:58 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Shit Carl not only are you a war hero but you are something of a business mogul as well. I am impressed. Now dry up, there's a good chap. You have bored us enough.
Final means vinis en klaar. Verstaan jy?
Jy dink seker ek is n' dom doos. Wie de fok dink jy skryf jy vir, een van jou kinders? Jy kan nie eers afrikaans spel nie. Wat beteken vinis? soos ek Afrikaans ken beteken vinis, "varnish" in Engels, die goed wat n' mense op hout werf om hom blink te maak. Jy het ten minste klaar reg. Ek persoonlik dink jy is container, dit is n' baie mooi word vir n' fokken groot doos. Jammer, maar jy het my nou ver genoeg gedrik. Jy dink jy is God, jammer om van jou kak te hoor ou broer, waneer jy op die kakhuis sit kak jy ook n' groot vet drol nets ek. Jy dink jy kan maar aan hou en kak skryf en anders moet net stil bly, jou moer man vlig in jou hel in. En dan het jy die vermetelheid om te skryf "Verstaan jy?", ek is nie een van jou kinders nie, en vir jou inligten, ek verstaan baie goed en ook vir jou inligten, ek sal nie my bek hou nie en sal aan hou om te skryf. Ek het tot en met nou jou kak geduld, maar nie meer nie.
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Carl -- Jo Pete, Tue, 25 Oct 2011, 11:28:56 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Shit Carl not only are you a war hero but you are something of a business mogul as well. I am impressed. Now dry up, there's a good chap. You have bored us enough.
Final means vinis en klaar. Verstaan jy?
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Ray & Jo-Pete -- Carl Schmidt, Tue, 25 Oct 2011, 7:07:43 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Gentleman, a joke is a joke and I'm sure that we can all at times take one. However, when people are rude, disrespectful and down right obnoxious, then it's not a joke anymore. I placed a post and expected a genuine response and assistance from my fellow countrymen and persons that may well be in a position to assist. As you guys, may or may not be aware, this is a rather raw situation for me. I certainly do not expect to be felt sorry for nor do I expect that people must all run and try to stop my so called "Bleeding Heart". We as Rhodesians stood together during the days of UDI and it now appears to me that that ceased when Rhodesia ceased. I certainly do not find it a joke to fool around with someone elses unfortunate situation. I am very successful in more was than I care to mention. I have two homes, paid for, one in Pretoria and one in Belfast in the Eastern Transvaal. My Mazda BT50 bakkie is paid for, my car is paid for as well as my motorcycle is paid for. I have a wonderful second wife whom I would not swop for anything and yes she and my step daughter are true South Africans. I also have a wonderful step daughter whom I raised as in totally with no assistance from her own father. However, I am unable to even share a tiny little bit of my very own, flesh and blood daughter. I'm certainly not a sloppy, softy half female oriontated male. I'm a man in all true repects and yes I have a soft spot for my own daughter. Any true man does and is nothing to be ashamed of.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 24 Oct 2011, 16:23:22 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
yes!
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Ray -- Jo Pete, Mon, 24 Oct 2011, 16:18:37 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Dankie my buddy Ray. Maybe I should stop pulling the piss out of okes who don't have a sense of humour.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 24 Oct 2011, 15:30:07 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Carl mellow out, ek het net 'n grap gemaak. Ek het nooit in my hele lewe vir hom ooit sien iemand klap nie. Ou Pete is 'n baie goeie vriend van myne en hy het die deur van sy huis altyd oopgegooi vir my. Hy was altyd helpvol vir my en het my petrol tenk volgemmaak in Zimbabwe, sommer net so. Ek het 'n nuwe microwave oond ingesmokkel in Zimbabwe in vir hom. Jy gedra jouself so bedonders, koel af, mellow out en wees meer vriendelik dit sal wonders werk vir jou dogter ook.
Pete:
"Ball"hatzer Vorster may have sold out Rhodesia, but Flat Wheel de Clerk sold out South Africa. The ANC showed their great appreciation to him by brutally murdering his wife.
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My A. B. F. W. -- Carl. Schmidt, Mon, 24 Oct 2011, 12:53:19 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
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The final word -- Jo Pete, Mon, 24 Oct 2011, 10:18:24 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Well Carl and me seem to share some common ground re Clutchplates. My solution to his bleeding heart story is that the ex Rhodesian Forces of this forum, if there are any apart from Carl, mount a commando raid on Essex to snatch Nichole. Are there ant takers?
And ,yes Carl, my secret is out. I am a wife abuser from hell. This is why I generally marry short women. If you klap them hard enough they don't get up and klap you back.
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Nicole Schmidt -- Carl Schmidt, Mon, 24 Oct 2011, 7:49:29 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Well I have read all the comments on the posts. What some people do not undrestand is the this all took place whist my daughter was a minor. You see she has being withheld from any contact with me by her mother and God alone knows what story was spinned to her as a minor. I do not dispute the fact that she is better off in the UK than in Zim. Infact she is better off in the UK than even SA and this is what some num skulls do not understand. As far as the one Jo-Pete is concerned, and I quote him " This Carl oke brings his bleeding heart story to our attention. When we comment he tells us to mind our own business.
To me he shows classic signs of being a wife abuser at the very least. No wonder his ex wife grabbed a new husband and got the hell out with her daughter.
He has gained scant sympathy on this forum.
BTW Carl your thinly veiled threats are noted. From my wheelchair I am really shitting myself, you self confessed wanker". Well it appears that this guy is the one with the problem, beacuse reading a few of his previous posts it sounds like he has had a number of wives. I've only had two, my ex wife and my current wife. Futher more, I did at no point and time threaten him at all, as he suggests. These where comments made by Ray dated Thursday 20th October 2011. So my dear friend, can't even read and understand the postings. As far as the bleeding heart story is concerned, I posted a post for assistance and my dear friend, writes crap comments. As far as the wife abuser story is concerned and I quote him " To me he shows classic signs of being a wife abuser at the very least. No wonder his ex wife grabbed a new husband and got the hell out with her daughter". For your information my dear friend Jo-Pete, I think that you may well be the wife abuser, jugding by the amount of wives you have had. Futher more, we were already divorced and I was already living in SA when my ex wife took another husband and only a number of years later moved to the UK. So, I say to you, get your facts right before you open your trap. The fact that you are now confined to a wheelchair, does not give you the right to slander and abuse other people and think that people will feel sorry for you because you are in a wheelchair. Your "BLEEDING HEART WHEELCHAIR STORY" does not stick with me. You my dear friend, obviously has nothing better to do with your life other than sit on this forum and write crap comments and abuse others. I think that you should grow-up and get a life, just as you suggested to me, and don't think that people will have respect for you with your self opinionated attitude. You are what I would refer to as a real "WHEN WE". You see there is good and bad in all nations and you fall under the latter.
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Schmidt -- Jo Pete, Sun, 23 Oct 2011, 11:24:57 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. dooder you have hit the nail on the head. This Carl oke brings his bleeding heart story to our attention. When we comment he tells us to mind our own business.
To me he shows classic signs of being a wife abuser at the very least. No wonder his ex wife grabbed a new husband and got the hell out with her daughter.
He has gained scant sympathy on this forum.
BTW Carl your thinly veiled threats are noted. From my wheelchair I am really shitting myself, you self confessed wanker.
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Is this Africa's decade? -- Bob, Sun, 23 Oct 2011, 4:00:37 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Saturday 29 October, 5.15pm until 6.30pm, Lecture Theatre 1 Battle for the World
Following the successful 2010 World Cup in South Africa, the new decade is looking bright for Africa. In recent years, Africa’s share of global trade has reversed a six-decade pattern of decline; the discovery of exportable natural resources and increased competition between the EU and China for African markets have, in the eyes of many, produced a new age of optimism for the ‘dark continent’. In fact, over the past ten years, six of the world’s ten fastest-growing economies were in sub-Saharan Africa. Angola beat China to the top with annual average GDP growth of 11.1%. In the next five years, African countries are predicted to outperform their Asian counterparts. Of course, Africa still only accounts for 2% of world output – and it’s easy to grow fast when you are small – but nonetheless the lion is on the move, along with the elephant and the tiger. And it makes a huge difference to people’s lives: the African Development Bank reports that one-third of Africans are now ‘middle-class’, having between $2 and $20 a day to spend. 10 years ago nearly two-thirds were living on less than $2 a day.
http://www.battleofideas.org.uk/index.php/2011/session_detail/5690/
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“We think we know what the British Empire did to the world. But what did it do to us?” -- Bob, Sun, 23 Oct 2011, 3:26:36 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Andrew Marr looks at the lasting impact of the British Empire with Jeremy Paxman and Richard Gott. Paxman reflects on how our imperial past still has the power to influence everything from Prime Ministers' decisions to send troops to war, to the way we view adventurers of the past. While Gott argues against any residual belief that the Empire was an imaginative and civilising enterprise, and reveals the brutality at its heart. The social entrepreneur Mariéme Jamme believes it's time for Africa to leave behind its colonised past, and with Africa's share of global trade on the rise, she asks whether this is her continent's decade. China's Empire once ruled over a third of the world's population, and the film-maker Suyun Sun is embarking on a major history series on China which she hopes will cast new light on the country.
Producer: Katy Hickman.
.Related Links
Battle of Ideas - Is this Africa's decade? (www.battleofideas.org.uk)
JEREMY PAXMAN
“We think we know what the British Empire did to the world. But what did it do to us?” This is the starting point of Jeremy Paxman’s foray into the world of Empire. It’s a history of the extraordinary characters that left home to try their hand abroad, and the complex mix of motivation, “ruthless opportunism and earnest idealism, courage and smugness, confidence and anxiety.” Paxman argues that the influence of Britain’s imperial past reverberates today from everything, from Prime Ministers’ decisions to send troops to war and the adventurers we admire, to the food we eat and the sports we play.
Empire: What Ruling the World Did to the British is published by Viking.
Empire: What Ruling the World Did to the British
.RICHARD GOTT
The British Empire was a brutal and violent enterprise which should be likened more to the exploits of Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan than Alexander the Great, argues Richard Gott. Any residual belief that Britain was a civilising or benign ruler is overturned in his new book, Britain’s Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt. As Gott charts the struggles of indigenous people in the colonies, he highlights how repression, slavery, famine and genocide were all tools of Britannia’s rule.
Britain's Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt is published by Verso.
Britain's Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt
.MARIEME JAMME
Commonly thought of in the West as a war-torn continent ravaged by famine, poverty, disease and corruption, Mariéme Jamme believes the time has finally come for Africa to fight back against this distorted “single story”. In a forthcoming debate, Jamme, a social activist and businesswoman, will argue that this is Africa’s decade. The economies of certain African countries are growing fast, albeit from a small base, and over the next five years they’re predicted to outperform their Asian counterparts. Jamme is enthusiastic about a new breed of entrepreneurs, bloggers, inventors and policymakers, the so called “Cheetah Generation”.
Mariéme Jamme is taking part in a discussion entitled “Is This Africa’s Decade?” at the Battle of Ideas festival on Saturday 29 October at the Royal College of Art in London.
Marieme Jamme
.SUN SHUYUN
China is one of the oldest civilisations in the world and its history veers between periods of political unity and expansion and disunity and civil war. But it’s a history dominated by the last century. The film maker Sun Shuyun is about to embark on an ambitious television series on the history of China, which will go back two and a half thousand years. Sun grew up in China in the 1960s on a diet of text books that pilloried the West for the inhumanity of the Opium Wars and glorified the heroism of The Great March. She believes China’s history must become more than a propaganda tool, reflecting the predominant party ideology of the time. She points to China’s long imperial rule, its great explorers from the 15th century, and to periods like the 7th century when attitudes to foreigners were markedly different and the country had an almost cosmopolitan feel.
Start the Week - Listen : (45 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b015mzkr#synopsis
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Carl Schmidt [I think I spelled it correctly :-) ] -- dooder, Sat, 22 Oct 2011, 14:32:47 (host86-162-174-13.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.174.13)
C - err you seem to know where your estranged daughter works; you seem to have mastered the internet; you could pick up the phone and call ILG ? - worth investing a few bux ? - a letter perhaps - a tad old school i grant you but will surely find recipient.
I suspect you may have already tried these and drawn a blank, possibly for reasons stated in your postings various.
yours
another wanker
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Clutchplates -- Jo Pete, Sat, 22 Oct 2011, 11:31:29 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo EBT. I'm trying to think of something I should be grateful to the Clutchplates for. They sold my beloved Rhodesia down the river, thanks largely to a very naive IDS, Thabo's mates gave me SA citizenship in 2006. They tried to take out my country Zimbabwe.
I suppose that they have been the source of much amusement over the years, especially when the Blou Balle get a klap. My daughters did attend an SA English medium university, but that was after the Clutchplate regime.
Maybe Carl can enlighten me?
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UK - Zim -- another wenwe, Sat, 22 Oct 2011, 3:41:55 (c-98-217-226-135.hsd1.vt.comcast.net/98.217.226.135)
It would appear to me that if, as you stated, Nichole is working in the UK, she's 1. old enough to decide where she wants to live, and, 2. the mere fact that she's working means she's probably better off there than in Zims anyway.
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An Inconvenient Youth: Julius Malema -- Bob, Sat, 22 Oct 2011, 0:53:54 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
A new book on Julius Malema, the president of the youth league of the African National Congress in South Africa, seeks to understand this controversial -- but also very popular -- leader. Author of the book Fiona Forde and South Africa analyst Bill Johnson discuss Malema -- and the future of the ANC itself.
Audio/Comments
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/
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Clutchplates -- Jo Pete, Fri, 21 Oct 2011, 16:58:14 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Carl it may have escaped your notice but the Clutchplates are a meaningless minority in SA. Hell man their team, the Blou Balle couldn't even make it to the Currie Cup semis. I came here because my mate Julius is the man.
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Ray -- Carl Schmidt, Fri, 21 Oct 2011, 6:42:27 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Ray, nobody threatens me and expects me to sit back and just accept it. No, no, I've had it with people that are self opinionated and think that the world revolves around them. In fact I would love to meet the said gentleman and I would very happily make the trip from Pretoria to Boksburg (by the way) not Kempton. It's not far only about 60 km's. I could then also combined the trip to visit some frieds and family. I have no problem with people that are disabled and in wheel chairs, provided they treat others with respect and if not then what they dish out will be dished back. It's as simple as that. I have read a few of the said gents previous posts and he has a dig at the Afrikaans South Africans. Well I may be a Rhodesian, but I am from a very, very strong Afrikaans back ground and I certainly "DO NOT" appreciate the way he slanders the Afrikaans people, calling them clutches etc, etc. If he do not like the Afrikaans and South Africans, then he can bugger off, because we do not need people like him here. South Africa was good enough to gap it too, but he disrespects and insults the Afrikaaner. It certainly does not work that way. With regard to being Klapped, well I don't say that I will win, but man the guy is going to be busy.
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BILTONG BARRY -- BARRY (I AM LEARNING), Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 23:37:47 (d58-107-114-15.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.114.15)
Thanks Ray
I have got it right and I am on to the the next batch. Interesting how much my daughters -son in law and grand kids suddenly like the Old Man HA HA. Even Tina’s poodle is getting very affectionate
Magic stuff
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. -- Ray, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 15:48:09 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Carl be careful if you go near the Kempton park area you might get klapped by a guy in a wheelchair.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 15:42:31 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Hi Barry, the meat just needs to be immersed in the vinegar, even just one minute is sufficient. Don't wash the vinegar off, it protects the meat until it is dried. No need for refrigeration, the Boerkies did not have fridges. If you cut the meat thin it will be biltong in two days.
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Nichole Schmidt -- Jo Pete, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 14:38:20 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Roger that Carl.
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Jo Pete -- Carl Schmidt, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 10:30:18 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Jo Pete, thank-you but no thank-you, your assistance is not required. I'm sure there will be someone out there that will assist me without insulting me and seeing that I'm the only wanker that served in the Rhodesian Forces and seeing that I am the only wanker that has not grown-up and seeing that I am the only wanker that's got no life, and the fact, and I quote you "To use that as some sort of justification is pathetic", I would prefer that you do not render your assistance.
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Nichole Schmidt -- Jo Pete, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 9:59:51 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. So Carl, confirm that my assisstance is not required?
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Jo Pete (F. O.) -- Carl Schmidt, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 9:55:26 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Jo pete, I'm not prepared to waste time on a debate of what I am or what I am not. You have your opinions and I have mine. So go on your merry way and I will go mine and keep your nose out of my matters that are none of your concern. You are probably one of the most insulting people that I have ever come across and strick me as a self opinionated person.
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Nichole Schmidt -- Jo Pete, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 9:18:10 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Carl what I can see is that you are a very abusive fellow. No wonder your wife left you and got the hell out of Africa. I suggest that you make a huge effort to be the father that your daughter can be proud of.Do not use her to get at your ex wife. Of course you are the only one in the world that served in the Rhodesian Forces. Wank Wank!To use that as some sort of justification is pathetic
I speak from experience. I have 3 children from former marriages. All are well balanced big achievers. Their mothers and I divorced when they were young but I had a big hand in their upbringing and have always remained on very friendly terms with their mothers. My present wife has an abusive es husband who was using their children against her 10 years after their divorce. Possibly he was related to you.
So Carl, I reckon that I understand exactly what you are. Take my advice. There's a good chap.
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Nicole Schmidt -- Carl Schmidt, Thu, 20 Oct 2011, 7:34:23 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
Jo Pete, I asked for assistance not a crap comment, that you can keep for yourself. You don't know the full story so if you can assist, I would be most greatfull. If you can't then keep your trap shut and wind your neck in. The fact that you think that I'm hanging my dirty washing out in public also has nothing to do with you, unless you are prepared to assist me with my request. You further think that I am brain dead to think that my daughter would not be better off in the UK than in zimbabwe. Who do you think you are to make such crap comments and who do you think you are to tell me to grow up and get a life. For your information, I have a life, that's why I am able to sit here and write, secondly I am growen up, that's why I have a daughter and an ex wife of more than 23 years and I was in the Rhodesian Forces going back some 36 years. So if you are unable to assist me, then keep your trap shut. Ray, I'm not looking for a relationship with my ex wife and by the way it is not "accusations" as you put it, but "FACTS". I futher, did not expect them to stay in zimbabwe. However, it's the way that it was done. Further Ray, you must also think that I am brain dead to think that I could expect my daughters mother to keep living in zimbabwe, to let my own daughter suffer whilst I move out to have a nice life for myself. I'm a dog, but not brain dead. If you are able to assist me, then great, I would appreciate it. If not, then please do not insult my intelligence, like Jo Pete, has done.
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BILTONG SUCCESS -- BARRY (DELIGHTED YUM), Wed, 19 Oct 2011, 23:52:40 (d58-107-114-15.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.114.15)
Well some of you may remember I was asking about Biltong.
Ray gave me a good simple recipe and I also watched some How to make Biltong on U-tube. The result was too say interesting LOL.
The first attempt I some how thought you needed to leave the beat in vinegar for 3 days !!!!!!!..It came out really stiff and then I proceeded to hang the strips for 4 days.
Well to my surprise it just did not change. Naturally PICKLED BEEF does not. So we put that in the trash (even my dog looked at it in disgust).
Round 2. Rock salt and 30 minutes in the fridge.Vinigar wash of and add spice. Over night in the fridge. Hang in cool place and BILTONG in 5 days
So normal cost $69 a kilo home made about $15/18 accounting for shrinkage.
Cheers Barry
Funny how many mates I have suddenly aquired HA HA
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Nichole Schmidt -- Jo Pete, Wed, 19 Oct 2011, 15:34:16 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Carl seems to me that you are hanging your dirty washing out in public. Possibly it hasn't occurred to you that your daughter is far better off in the UK than in Zimbabwe. My suggestion is that you act a bit more maturely and stop putting yourself before your daughter's intersts.
So grow up and get a life.
BTW I've been there and done that a few times.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 19 Oct 2011, 15:28:02 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Well Carl all those accusations are not going to help improve relationships. Your only option I think, is if you know where she lives is to be more conciliatory and go and visit and be a nice Dad. I hardly think you could require her mother to stay put in Zimbabwe, you also moved out.
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Nicole Schmidt (aka Betch) -- Carl Schmidt, Wed, 19 Oct 2011, 11:51:16 (41-132-32-129.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.32.129)
I am searching for my daughter Nicole Schmidt who lives in Crawley West Sussex UK. I have reason to believe that her mother Sharon Betch whom is married to Francis J. Betch residing at 58 Barrington Road Crawley West Sussex has had Nicole adopted and changed her surname from Schmidt to Betch without my consent or consulting me and abducted Nicole to the UK from Zimbabwe also without my knowledge and consent. So doing has contravened our divorce agreements. Not only contravened the divorce agreements but also depriving me of my rights, in terms of access to my very own daughter and the fact that Nicole’s mother abducted Nicole to the UK has also committed a crime. I would appreciate it if there is anyone that can assist me with any information or help. I have reason to believe and am lead to believe that Nicole is now working for Independent Living Group. I can be contacted at cschmidt@pretoriaforklifts.co.za or carlissie@gmail.com
Best Regards
Carl Schmidt
for: Pretoria Forklifts CC
214 Soutter Street, Pretoria West
PO Box 75948, Lynnwood Ridge, 0040
Tel: 012 327 9966
Fax: 012 327 0906
Cell: 082 777 7041
E-mail: cschmidt@pretoriaforklifts.co.za
Website: www.pretoriaforklifts.co.za
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Angola's Labour Pains -- Bob, Mon, 17 Oct 2011, 22:40:26 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
China is injecting billions of dollars into Angola, but it’s creating new divisions in a country already torn apart by civil war.
On the surface, Chinese loans and workers are helping to rebuild the county, creating new housing and infrastructure.
But Dateline’s Giovana Vitola finds that behind the gleaming tower blocks and shopping centres, lies a growing Angolan underclass.
They say little of the work is coming their way and they’re being pushed from slum to slum by the demand for development.
And with lucrative Angolan oil contracts also going to the Chinese in return for their loans, there seems no way out of the poverty for many local people.
WATCH - Giovana explores the changing face of this part of Africa.
INTERVIEW - Listen to Giovana talking to SBS Radio's World News Australia about her story, including the role of corruption in Angola's current problems.
VIRTUAL CHINESE COMMUNITY - SBS now has an online Chinese community, with content in Mandarin and Cantonese.
CHINA'S GHOST CITIES - Many Angolans are too poor to live in the new cities being built there, so could it be a repeat of the uninhabited cities in China that we reported on earlier in the year? Replay Adrian's Brown's story.
WATCH TRANSCRIPT COMMENTS
http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/about/id/601361/n/Angola-s-Labour-Pains
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More Shrink Jokes -- Ray, Thu, 13 Oct 2011, 16:55:49 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
A group of psychiatrists were attending a convention. One said to the other three, "People are always coming to us with their guilt and fears, but we have no one that we can go to when we have problems." The others agreed.
Then one said, "Since we are all professionals, why don't we take some time right now to hear each other out?"
The other three agreed.
The first then confessed, "I have an uncontrollable desire to kill my patients."
The second psychiatrist said, "I love expensive things and so I find ways to cheat my patients out of their money whenever I can so I can buy the things I want."
The third followed with, "I'm involved with selling drugs and often get my patients to sell them for me."
The fourth psychiatrist then confessed, "I am an incurable gossip, no matter how hard I try, I cannot control myself, I must tell everyone I meet anything scandalous I know"
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. -- Ray, Thu, 13 Oct 2011, 16:28:02 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
The psychology instructor had just finished a lecture on mental health and was giving an oral test.
Speaking specifically about manic depression, she asked, "How would you diagnose a patient who walks back and forth screaming at the top of his lungs one minute, then sits in a chair weeping uncontrollably the next?"
A young man in the rear raised his hand and answered, "A Springbok Rugby coach?"
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Thomas Sowell—Economic Facts and Fallacies -- Bob, Thu, 13 Oct 2011, 6:20:44 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
“Some things are believed because they are demonstrably true. But many other things are believed simply because they have been asserted repeatedly,” states Sowell in his latest book. Here, he demolishes some accepted “facts,” ranging from housing (“The biggest economic fallacy about housing is that ‘affordable housing’ requires government intervention”) to race and economics (“Race doesn’t account for difference in black-white income”) to race and culture (“the current fatherless families so prevalent among contemporary blacks are not a ‘legacy of slavery.’”) (33:37) Video transcript
To go to segments within a video, click the links below:
•start video from beginning Thomas Sowell, the Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow on Public Policy at the Hoover Institution, discusses, with Hoover research fellow Peter Robinson, whether affordable housing requires government intervention.
•start segment 2 at 6:44 Thomas Sowell discusses common misconceptions about race and racism.
•start segment 3 at 12:57 Thomas Sowell discusses secular increases in crime and fatherless black families. Sowell blames the problems on the social programs implemented in the ’60s.
•start segment 4 at 19:11 Thomas Sowell discusses many common fallacies about income and income inequality.
•start segment 5 at 26:15 Thomas Sowell discusses why he remains perennially pessimistic.
http://www.hoover.org/multimedia/uncommon-knowledge/79146
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The American Welfare State -- Bob, Thu, 13 Oct 2011, 4:40:02 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
A visiting scholar at the Henry Salvatori Center at Claremont McKenna College, William Voegeli is a senior editor of the Claremont Review of Books and the author of Never Enough: America’s Limitless Welfare State.
Voegeli reveals the stunning growth of the American welfare state since its inception, growing exponentially between World War II and today, and describes the intellectual groundwork of the modern welfare state – a program sold to the American people in disguise. He asserts, “The only remaining constraint on the growth of the welfare state is the problem of paying for it.” Finally he insists that we cannot undo the welfare state. “We need a welfare state we can live with, one even that we can admire.... But not limitless.”
Video
http://www.hoover.org/multimedia/uncommon-knowledge/66931
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. -- Ray, Wed, 12 Oct 2011, 16:08:00 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
True story from N3 Traffic Police.
I made a radar traffic stop between Gauteng and Benoni on an 75 year old lady the other day for speeding.
I asked for her driver's license and registration.
The lady took out the required information and handed it to me.
In with the cards I was somewhat surprised (due to her advanced age) to see she had a firearms permit. I looked at her and ask if She had a weapon in her possession at this time.
She responded that she indeed have a .45 automatic in her glove box.
Something---body language, or the way she said it---made me want to ask if she had any other firearms. She did admit to also having a 9mm Glock in her center console. Now, I had to ask one more time if that was all. She responded once again that she did have just one more, a .38 special in her purse.
I then asked her what was she so afraid of.
She looked me right in the eye and said, "Not a damn thing!"
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“The End of the World as We Know It" -- Bob, Fri, 07 Oct 2011, 4:25:37 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Responding to critics who have called his America Alone “alarmist,” Steyn defends the tone and central premise of his book. “This book is about…the larger forces at play in the developed world that have left Europe too enfeebled to resist its remorseless transformation into Eurabia and that call into question the future of much of the rest of the world, including the United States, Canada, and beyond.”
According to Steyn, these forces include demographic decline in Europe, the unsustainability of the advanced Western social-democratic state, and civilizational exhaustion. Finally, in the face of these forces, Steyn offers what he believes America must do.
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(38:19) Video transcript
http://www.hoover.org/multimedia/uncommon-knowledge/26685
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Margie Orford -- Bob, Fri, 07 Oct 2011, 3:09:38 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Margie Orford is the international guest of honour at this year's SheKilda Australian Women Crime Writers' Convention. She's the author of the Dr Clare Hart series and she discusses her writing, violence in South Africa and her work as patron of Rape Crisis.
Guests
Margie Orford
Award-winning journalist; crime writer; Executive Vice-President of South African PEN; patron of Rape Crisis and of the children's book charity, The Little Hands Trust.
listen now | download audio | Add your comment
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/
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. -- Ray, Wed, 05 Oct 2011, 20:04:42 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Thanks Barry, komedie.za.co is so stupid its funny.
There is a humorous cartoon book out on Birds of Africa, and the cartoon for Scarce Swift is just blank sky.
The bird which I have seen, occurs in the Vumba mountains.
The cartoon for Witgatspreeu you don't want to see..
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BT -- Jay, Wed, 05 Oct 2011, 6:57:45 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
WHAT CONFUCIUS DIDN'T SAY
Man who wants pretty nurse, must be patient.
Passionate kiss, like spider web, leads to undoing of fly.
Better to be pissed off than pissed on.
Lady who goes camping must beware of evil intent.
Man who jumps off cliff leaps to conclusion.
Man who runs in front of car gets tyred, man who runs behind car gets exhausted.
Man who eats many prunes get good run for money.
War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left..
Man who fight with wife all day get no piece at night.
It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it.
Man who drives like hell is bound to get there.
Man who stands on toilet is high on pot.
Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement.
Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs
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Taal -- Alan, Tue, 04 Oct 2011, 14:40:09 (vc-cpt-41-9-169-189.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.9.169.189)
Great to see the old taal sayings
I still think the best one ever was " I will give you a Caution Klap"
Another one:
When you have your bum in crocodiles it is sometimes a bit difficult to think of draining the swamp!!
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FELLOW ONES -- BARRY (SOME MORE FUNNY STUFF), Tue, 04 Oct 2011, 7:15:02 (d58-107-117-142.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.117.142)
Hey BT'ers
It was so good to see all the action on the TAAL
Much better than whining about politics and stuff
Here is a good one especially for Dr Ray
Cheers Barry
http://www.komedie.co.za/
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. -- ray, Mon, 03 Oct 2011, 18:21:24 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Taped conversation between customer and support help line....
Tech support: "Okay Bob, let's press the control and escape keys at the same time. That brings up a task list in the middle of the screen. Now press "P" to bring up the Program Manager."
Customer: I don't have a P.
Tech support: On your keyboard, Bob.
Customer: What do you mean?
Tech support: "P" on your keyboard, Bob.
Customer: I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT!
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. -- Ray, Mon, 03 Oct 2011, 18:09:36 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Nine years, jeez Dianne, has it been that long.. I still remember Ocean basket in Pretoria, what was it 1999? two babies were there, they are now teenagers, I forgot who had the babies, one was the couple I helped in the USA, I forgot what their names were, Gavin, Samantha?
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The new British in India -- Bob, Mon, 03 Oct 2011, 9:34:55 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
As India's economy has boomed, many British Indians - born or brought up in the UK to immigrant Indian parents - have been encouraged to make the reverse journey. In two programmes Hardeep Singh Kohli visits the busy centres of Bangalore and Mumbai and tracks down some of those who have decided to change their lives and make a go of it in India. But do they see themselves as Indian or British? What do they relish and what do they miss?
In the first programme Hardeep is in Bangalore - centre for IT, finance and outsourcing - where he meets is Nina Bual. She arrived in India on a one-way ticket, having become fed up with her PR job in London. Now she is a successful entrepreneur running four spas. The second returnee decided on an unlikely venture - to open a French patisserie with his French wife. This is Shashi Halai from Finchley and together they have expanded their business to pizzas and quiches - and not a curry in sight.
Many of the returnees work for major international companies, who find Bangalore offers the chance to expand into the huge Indian market. One of these is Rajiv Sagar. His wife gave up her UK job and they and their 2 children moved to one of the prestige gated communities. Once past security you enter a world of manicured lawns and ordered comings and goings - totally unlike the rest of the heaving city. The Sagar's will eventually be moving back, but that's not the case for Sati and Priti Joshi who have put down firm roots, bought a house, and committed themselves - but adapting to life in India is not easy, and the ever-present custom of bribes, is something they fight against
Listen now (30 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0151w34
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Rob Stocker -- Alan Rae, Mon, 03 Oct 2011, 5:09:36 (NoHost/70.70.242.43)
I am trying to track down Rob Stocker who served wih me in RI?
Any help would be greatly appreciated?
Alan
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Taal -- Maggi, Sat, 01 Oct 2011, 23:02:44 (ppp121-44-243-89.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.243.89)
Barbara, that use to be a favourite saying of my mum. Mine is "eina"....
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Springbok Delights -- Diane, Sat, 01 Oct 2011, 9:41:32 (CPE-58-160-40-208.phzl1.ken.bigpond.net.au/58.160.40.208)
Will definitely look at the garlic wors, etc., but am most excited about at last finding Mazoe Orange!! Yay! Have been here for 9 years and the only things I missed were gem squash and Mazoe. Gems are available now and then, but I haven't had Mazoe in 9 years and can't wait (double yay!). Hope it still tastes the same!
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$350,000 diversity outreach consultant -- Bob, Sat, 01 Oct 2011, 6:47:08 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Michael Duffy: Let's just stick with the smart people for a moment before we talk more about America. Can you tell us a little about the trajectory of Michelle Obama and her time at Princeton?
Mark Steyn: Yes, it was very interesting. She's someone who is...she's a beneficiary of what they call in America 'affirmative action', and that means to say that in order to address long-standing racial grievances and racial injustices, it was decided that there would be a...that affirmative action would in effect give credit to people for being from certain identity groups and fast-track them to college in order that...people who were ostensibly their grandparents and great-grandparents had suffered from various forms of discrimination.
Now, obviously Michelle Obama didn't, she was born in the early 1960s, she's not even Condoleezza Rice's generation, she doesn't even have childhood memories of that. And it's amazing to me that she's got more bitterness about being admitted to Princeton than people who don't get admitted to Princeton have. She said, 'Every step of the way someone was telling me what I couldn't do. I applied to Princeton; you can't go there, your test scores aren't high enough, they told me. But I went anyway.' Now, that's a fascinating complaint, because if she'd been applying to a university in China or a university in India and her test scores hadn't been high enough, or even in France, that would have been the end of it. You know, you don't get extra credit for which particular identity group categories you happen to fall into.
This is the post-modern education system in a nutshell. She arrives as a black woman at Princeton under the benefits of affirmative action, and immediately writes her undergraduate thesis on the difficulties of being a black woman at Princeton. But what fascinates me about that, Michael, is that she takes on this six-figure college education...she and her husband each have about a million dollars worth of college education between them if you were buying it now...and then she takes this million-dollar education and she becomes a diversity outreach consultant at the University of Chicago Hospital, getting $350,000 a year as a diversity outreach consultant, a job that was so necessary to the hospital than when she left to become First Lady they didn't bother replacing her.
And I think it would be fantastic if everybody in the Western world could live as a $350,000 diversity outreach consultant. But it's the diversion of spending six-figure sums on elite education and then training people to be diversity outreach consultants...that is a flawed business model that is a complete waste of the Western world's human capital.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/stories/2011/3323627.htm
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Jo Pete -- Jay, Fri, 30 Sep 2011, 22:33:27 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
Funny how the tides change, we have some small mining towns in Aussie filled with Hairy Backs, when I say to them how are you souties they tell me they are not South African anymore they are Australian.
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Taal -- Barbara, Fri, 30 Sep 2011, 20:35:08 (CPE-124-191-154-250.iqla1.woo.bigpond.net.au/124.191.154.250)
Another one I enjoy is "Stadig oor die klippies" on the side of a carton - meaning FRAGILE
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Taal -- Jo Pete, Fri, 30 Sep 2011, 16:03:22 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Some more Clutchplate gems.
Mark time - Maak soos jy loop maar loop nie! Afrifaans drill instruction.
Special Services Battalion - SSB - Soldate Sonder Broek. WWII vintage from my late father who served in the SSB.
I'll throw you with a brick.
Sout piel - soutie. Englishman in SA. Has one foot in SA, one in England, therefore his piel hangs in the sea.
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SA and the TAAL -- TerryK, Fri, 30 Sep 2011, 15:07:05 (host86-136-243-44.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.243.44)
Barry , Jo Pete - love it !!!
Would like to add "straat loop doet" to your list - just love the character displayed by the street cf a dead end.
There are a few translated SAism's which can be put to good use here in Pomerania. Any confontational/mugger type will hesitate for long enough to let you make your escape if you threaten to "slap him through the face" or "throw him with a stone".
Somewhat different but with credits to the SA sugar industry I loved to challenge red neck contractors in the deep south of the USA by asking if they would back up their forecasts/promises by "putting their cocks on the block". Amazing how big tough men's eyes can water.
Safe my mates - fingernails buggared afetr the Samoan game this morning.
Regards
TerryK
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moord hom -- Barry (SPORTING OKES), Fri, 30 Sep 2011, 2:29:21 (d58-107-117-142.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.117.142)
And then there is always that fair sporting cry when the opposition dares to even touch the ball MOORD HOM
LOL
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Taal -- Jo Pete, Thu, 29 Sep 2011, 11:48:49 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Excellent posting Barry. I particularly enjoyed moffies. I refer to all Aussies as moffies, particularly the rugby teams. Then of course you have poephol Ponting.The reason for me calling them moffies is that Australia have, per capita, the highest number of moffies in the world, with Sydney being the moffie capital of the world.
BTW do not forget gatvol.
There is a big difference between donder and donner.
I refer to Afrikaners as clutchplates.I live in Boksburg which I call Embrayageville. Embrayage is French for clutch
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BT -- Jay, Thu, 29 Sep 2011, 6:11:35 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
gat swaar!
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. -- Ray, Thu, 29 Sep 2011, 5:59:21 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Boknaai!!!!
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Barry -- Jay, Thu, 29 Sep 2011, 3:41:43 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
Talking of poephol jollers,that moffie Bob needs to be bliksemed for BT spamming.
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Can you forget the Taal?? -- BARRY (JUST FOR FOR A JOL), Thu, 29 Sep 2011, 1:13:37 (d58-107-117-142.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.117.142)
Sent to me by an old Salisbury China ENJOY
Man, this brings back memories!!!!!!!!!!
JUST FOR FOR A JOL
How do you explain the word "sommer" to an Australian? (Or to anyone
Else, for that matter). It's not only a foreign word, it's a foreign
Concept. Perhaps the English never do anything "just sommer". But when
I've explained it, it's been adopted enthusiastically here. Although
there's no Australian equivalent either, they take to the idea of
It."Why are you laughing? Just sommer."
"Bakkie" is another one of those useful "portmanteau" words (see -
English doesn't have a word for that, either), very useful around the
House, for all sizes and shapes of containers and dishes. Also used for
What they call "utes" here. I find it an indispensable word.
We all know "voetstoots" of course. It's been officially adopted into
South African English. There's no concise, one-word equivalent in
English. "As is" just doesn't hack it. And it's such a humorous word,
Conjuring up images of pushing that brand new car home...
There's no good English word for "dwaal". It doesn't mean dream, or
Daze. It's close to absent-mindedness, but that's not quite it. Being in
One so often myself, I'm not likely to stop using it.
I think "gogga" is the most delightful word for insect I've ever heard.
Children all over the world should use it. "Insect" just doesn't stand a
Chance.
And I think "moffie" is a far better word than all those embarrassed
English attempts at defining a homosexual: gay, queer, poofter, etc.
Aren't half as expressive. Somehow "moffie" doesn't sound as derogatory
Either.
And then there's "gatvol". OK, I know it's very rude. But it's so
Expressive, NE? "Fed up" doesn't have half the impact. It's like
Blancmange in comparison. "Gatvol" is a word used more frequently than
Ever in the workplace these days, with increasing intensity.
While we're on the subject, another phrase which outstrips any English
Attempt is "Hy sal sy gat sien". (Also rude). "He'll get his
Come-uppance" is like milque toast in comparison. It definitely lacks
The relish.
"Donder" is another very useful word, used as an all-purpose swearword,
Which again has no good English translation. Used as a verb, it can
Express any degree of roughing up. As a noun, it is a pejorative, as
They politely say in dictionaries, to mean whatever you want it to mean.
And there's no good translation for "skiet-en-donder".
It says something about the English that they have no word for "jol".
Probably the dictionary compilers regard it as slang, but it's widely
Used for "Going out on the town, kicking up your heels, enjoying
Yourself..."
(See, there's no English translation) Although curiously, the word
"Yule" in Yuletide is related to "jol" and derived from Old English. So
Somewhere along the line, the English forgot how to "jol".
I've yet to meet a South African over the age of two who doesn't use the
Word "muti". Translation is impossible - "witches potion" is about the
Nearest I can get. It needs a long cultural historical explanation .,
Between "muti" and the pedantic "medication" , there's simply no
contest.
And of course, my personal favourite "Kak en betaal" , which just says
it all, doesn't it? A bland and effete English translation would be
"Cough and pay", or "Breathe and pay". But it just doesn't cut it, does
it? Not by a long drop.
POST SCRIPT These are wonderful. Other words that come to mind: jou
bliksem, wag 'n bietjie, nie so haastig nie, just now, sakkie-sakkie music
ou swaer, Ya, nee How are you? No, I'm fine thanks?
How do you explain the passion of "LEKKER!"? Wow last night was a "lekker jol"
Dudu or doeks. Telling your infant to go to bed is just not the same as:"Go dudu now my baby!"
HOW MANY OTHERS ARE THERE? Add some and send on.
How about 'bliksem" - I'm going to bliksem you or ek gaan jou donder! Both wonderful
Afrikaans expressions with nothing to compare in the English language, at least nothing
that gives the same satisfaction.
Trapsuutjies………..the way certain maids and others work . Slowcoach just doesn’t do it ,hey
So first - Mielies!
Pap - there is no word like pap, here... they have porridge, and when they say porridge, they mean oats. There's no Maltabela, no Tasty Wheat, No Creemy Meal... In other words, there's no pap!
Mislik - such a 'lekker' word, and one that my kids are familiar with. 'Why are you so mislik, you little skelm? Do you want a snot-klap?'
Which brings us to skelm - here you just get 'baddies', but that doesn't have the same sneaky connotation of a proper skelm, does it?!
And snot-klap... fabulous word! How would you say that in English? 'I'll slap you so hard the snot will fly?' Yuk! Just not the same.
Loskop is another favourite. The English just don't understand when I say 'Sorry, I forgot - I'm such a loskop!' ha ha
Finally, moer! There simply isn't a word here that denotes the feeling behind 'If you don't clean your room, I'll moer you!'
WHAT ABOUT 'VUILGAT' or 'poephol'
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Biltong -- Jo Pete, Wed, 28 Sep 2011, 12:36:59 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Hey you ouens why not make your own biltong? My son has made a biltong drier out of a cardboard box and a lightbulb and makes his own biltong in UK.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 27 Sep 2011, 15:30:47 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Diane, the boerewors at $7 per pound is reasonable, I would get some of that, garlic wors.... yum!
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Biltong and Muskrat wine. -- Ray, Tue, 27 Sep 2011, 15:20:14 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Amazing Barry, Springbok Delights has 6 kinds of wors, 8 kinds of biltong, and everything from KWV Muscadel (YUM) to Klippies!!. But Oooooh the price! $26 per pound for the biltong and I am complaining about $16 per pound in Beverly Hills. Nice, but I don't think I will be moving to Sydney quite just yet. Maybe I should make a batch at $4.00 per pound, the only trouble is no matter how big a batch I make, 8 to 10 pounds, its gone, eaten in less than 3 days.......
Aah well.
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Biltong -- Barry (Welcome), Tue, 27 Sep 2011, 7:59:04 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Hi Diane.
You are welcome.Let me know how you go.
Springbok delights will surprise you he has really expanded the range and is busy as, especially on Saterday morning
Cheers Barry
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Biltong in Sydney -- Diane, Tue, 27 Sep 2011, 1:17:05 (CPE-58-160-40-33.phzl1.ken.bigpond.net.au/58.160.40.33)
Thanks for the info, Barry. I know Springbok Delights well, but must admit that I haven't been there for a few years - thanks for the reminder, I will be going there soon! Thanks also for your friend's details, I will definitely look at the website.
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Rugby World Cup -- Ray, Mon, 26 Sep 2011, 15:39:31 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Its Bob, Jay, he is harmless.
(As far as I know).
Looks like South Africa is going to be rewarded for its game winning by facing the runner up of pool D, Australia in the quarter finals. A knockout game, this would get ugly, very ugly. This is if Ireland defeats Italy.
Historically Ireland has played 19 matches against Italy, and won 16 of them. of course Samoa can always beat South Africa with 4 tries or more, knocking SA into runner up, but that is verry verry unlikely.
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BILTONG IN SYDNEY -- BARRY (LEKKER), Sun, 25 Sep 2011, 0:41:03 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Hi Diane
SPRINGBOK DELIGHTS
WEB SIGHT http://springbokdelights.com.au/pages.php?pageid=2
They are in 656 Mowbray Rd, Lane Cove West NSW 2066
P: 02 9427 5168
Springbok Delights was founded in 2000 by Reon and Lyndie Wilsenach
I believe they supply some others shopa in OZ you probabaly have to call
Really the best I have found
Also good is a personal mate of mine from Bulawayo just got his meat works going.Best Stokkies ever and they deliver by post all over OZ and fast
http://biltong2go.com.au/ Highly recommended.
check out the web site or
Inquiries: info@biltong2go.com.au
Phone: Lorraine - 0413 060 953
Hope that is useful
Cheers Barry
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RWC 2011 -- Maggi, Sun, 25 Sep 2011, 0:02:45 (NoHost/192.148.117.91)
If I have my facts right only the kiwi's and springbokkies have at this stage won all matches.. Mind you a 2" screen is not easy to read clearly .
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BT -- Jay, Sat, 24 Sep 2011, 22:29:53 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
Sounds like ISP user static.exetel.com.au has some mental health issues.
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Barry - Sydney Biltong -- Diane, Sat, 24 Sep 2011, 13:35:40 (CPE-58-160-40-120.phzl1.ken.bigpond.net.au/58.160.40.120)
Hi Barry, just wondering where to buy the Biltong from the ex-Freestate butcher? We have bought okay-biltong from local butchers, but it's always good to know where the best is. Many thanks, Diane
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George Souris not accused of “public sex act” -- Bruce, Sat, 24 Sep 2011, 4:36:31 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
NSW National party minister for the Arts and Tourism, Major Events, Hospitality and Racing George Souris has not been accused of committing a “public sex act” on Thursday night’s Nine News.
The NSW Police also didn’t name the gent but did specify they had had discussions with prospective informants about a 62-year-old gentleman engaging in a “public sex act.”
http://www.vexnews.com/2011/09/hospitable-nsw-minister-george-souris-not-accused-of-public-sex-act/
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'Factual: History' -- Penelope, Fri, 23 Sep 2011, 3:45:15 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
BBC Radio 4 has a wonderful selection of programs on various topics.
Episodes categorised as 'Factual: History'
available now on BBC iPlayer(1 - 30 of 781 programmes)
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/genres/factual/history/player/episodes
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BILTONG -- BARRY (GOOD INFO THANKS), Fri, 23 Sep 2011, 2:36:55 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Hi Ray Thanks good info I have sent it to Lee my son
They have Kangaroo biltong here,never tried it
Price on regular bilton is around $58kg so it is expensive
Boervors is $12=16 kg depending where you buy it supermarket or butcher.
I think I will have a go at making some let you know if T kicks me out house Ha ha
Cheers Barry
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Biltong -- Ray, Thu, 22 Sep 2011, 16:57:51 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Hi Barry, I get biltong from the Sausage Kitchen on Olympic Blvd in Beverly Hills. its good but a little expensive at $16 per pound. They have droë wors too, this is my favorite. I personally purchase a pound of boerewors and a 2 ft stick of droë wors there once a week.
In San Francisco there is South Seas Market San Bruno tel 1 650 873 2813, and Los Gatos Meats and Smoke House tel 1 408 354 7055. He must call before going and ask if they have any, I have never been to these the review about South Seas is its small not too clean, and expensive, but if you have to have it go. The reviews about Los Gatos are better.
Its easy to make your own, honest! Just cut inexpensive meat, like what they sell for a roast, into strips, dip in vinegar, salt very liberally, sprinkle coriander on, bend open a paperclip, hang on a curtain rod in a fly or wasp free area, and blow with a table fan. 3 days later you have biltong, cost $5 per pound. The thinner the strips the quicker it dries. I am absolutely dead set against the use of sugar in modern biltong recipes. Glucose destroys protein.
Is kangaroo meat available in Australia? After all, Springboks are renowned for their jumping prowess.
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BILTONG -- BARRY (BACK IN THE USA), Thu, 22 Sep 2011, 6:33:46 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Hey Ray.Question. My son is in San Francisco and needs some biltong.Where do you get yours?
I can send from here but its not the best way.
Good stuff here by the way.An ex Freesate butcher makes it and all the other wors
Cheers Barry
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. -- Ray, Tue, 20 Sep 2011, 15:21:30 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Peter, its just his way of communicating, I don't think he is deliberately trying to aggravate anybody.
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The separation of church and state in Australia -- Tom, Tue, 20 Sep 2011, 6:41:18 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
This week's Q&A deals with the issue of religion and politics. Yes, it is a very leftwing program, like all of ABC output, but I found it interesting nonetheless.
Monday 19 September, 2011
A Philosophical Q and A
download episode wmv | mp4 (200 MB)
The Questions - Transcript - Tweets - Panellists
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3316101.htm
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Ray -- Peter Wayne Langridge, Tue, 20 Sep 2011, 3:04:18 (CPE-124-178-172-82.lns3.wel.bigpond.net.au/124.178.172.82)
Ray seriously why do we need Bob to reiterate info that we already know time after time?
Secondly I would have to say after all the assistance the white man has given the munt's past and present, they still have absolutely sweet FA appreciation for it. Do you really care for those who cannot fend for themselves, never mind the white man they detest but cannot survive without?
Ray wake up! Bob is a wind up who posts to piss people off, he is not teaching us anything we don't already know.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 19 Sep 2011, 15:07:11 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Peter Wayne, the reason why Zimbabweans want to get to South Africa is because the white man is still able to function and produce food there, despite then blacks in control. What's wrong with Bob pointing this out?
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PISS OFF BOB -- Peter Wayne Langridge, Mon, 19 Sep 2011, 1:13:48 (CPE-124-178-172-82.lns3.wel.bigpond.net.au/124.178.172.82)
WTF are U about?
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Zimbabwe's child migrants -- bob, Thu, 15 Sep 2011, 4:17:11 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Synopsis
Mukul Devichand goes on the road with young children travelling alone on a journey of desperation, danger and hope - south from Zimbabwe and across the border to South Africa.
Home - About - More from the archive - Contact Us - BBC Radio 4 Programmes
Crossing Continents
.Zimbabwe's child migrants - Listen: (30 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b014629t
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Box -- Jay, Tue, 13 Sep 2011, 12:10:04 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
Thanks Roger I will check it out :=)
To Boxie Roxie! Pftttt you need to change your Kudu bike tyres Boy.
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Jay -- Roger, Tue, 13 Sep 2011, 4:07:43 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Hi Jay,
This may interest you, it is an old Kiwi recording, that I believe was the farthest show South.
I hope it is a similar show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ9ot96FlKg&feature=related
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. -- Boxie Roxie, Tue, 13 Sep 2011, 0:20:28 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Turn on a tape recorder, jump up and down while yelling:
Take the box! Take the box!
And voila! you'll have a recording!
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Money or the Box -- Jay, Fri, 09 Sep 2011, 22:26:33 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
No need to ask if anybody remembers how can one forget that classic TV show, Money or Box, just wondering if anybody out there would know how to get a recording?
Cheers, All! except Bob
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Independence ProclamationT -- Tony Evans. (Help), Wed, 07 Sep 2011, 7:47:42 (NoHost/41.53.74.2)
Re my last msg I can be contacted at tontatenda@yahoo.com
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Independence Proclamantion -- Tony Evans. (Help), Wed, 07 Sep 2011, 7:41:14 (NoHost/41.53.74.2)
Hi I have a one of the original copies of the Procalamation declaring Rhodesian as an Independent Country Signed by the Hon I.D.Smith and ten other goverment ministers on the 11/11/65. Could anyone tell me the value of this and possibly where one could sell it I feel it should be in a collection wher it could be preserved as the ink on the signatures is starting to fade
Many thanks
Tony Evans
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Helping Hand -- Morag, Wed, 07 Sep 2011, 2:01:02 (wsip-70-166-17-114.sd.sd.cox.net/70.166.17.114)
Just trying to spread the word of another Rhodesian.
___________________________________________________________
I wonder if you could help please. My mother a very staunch Rhodesian
wrote her biography and I have had it published recently following her
death in 2009. As I published the manuscript myself I need some help in
getting it more widely read.
The book is called
Roni's Story A Daughter of Africa.
It is published by authorhouse.com and is available through them and
amazon.co.uk
Any help would be very gratfully recieved
Thank you
Contact: Gavin Walker - phillipewalker@gmail.com
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Helping hand -- Morag, Wed, 07 Sep 2011, 1:58:38 (wsip-70-166-17-114.sd.sd.cox.net/70.166.17.114)
Saw this on another site and thought I would post it here.
_________________________________________________________
I wonder if you could help please. My mother a very staunch Rhodesian
wrote her biography and I have had it published recently following her
death in 2009. As I published the manuscript myself I need some help in
getting it more widely read.
The book is called
Roni's Story A Daughter of Africa.
It is published by authorhouse.com and is available through them and
amazon.co.uk
Any help would be very gratfully recieved
Thank you
Contact: Gavin Walker - phillipewalker@gmail.com
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Puma 164 -- Lee Catterson (Happy), Mon, 05 Sep 2011, 10:51:44 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Hi everybody. Neill Jackson and Rick van Malsen have worked very hard on their book called "The search for Puma 164" which you may have heard about. Well I have just finished the website and you may want to ave a look. There are operational maps, photo's from the war days, photo's from the recovery team in 2009 and reviews, stories and much more. All welcome to visit...http://puma164.net63.net/
Enjoy!
Lee
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Bob -- Jay, Sun, 04 Sep 2011, 14:36:07 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
If you were born in the UK and returning, the authorities would have more sense to allow you re-entry.
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British Passport -- Maggi, Sat, 03 Sep 2011, 23:25:45 (ppp121-44-236-166.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.236.166)
Sorry Bob, your mums British Passport does not allow you to qualify for a Brit Passport. We are in the same predicament, my husband although born in N/Rhodesia to British born parents cannot pass his heritage onto them, although if you have proof that your GRANDFATHER was born pre-1922 you are entitled to one. This is not generally advertised by the Brits themselves. We came unstuck because of a death certificate. Hope this makes sense.
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Viscount Disaster -- E B (Speechless), Sat, 03 Sep 2011, 13:27:24 (NoHost/210.1.217.29)
Air Rhodesia RH 825 Hunyani Viscount disaster, 3 September 1978.
In memory of all innocent passengers and crew who lost their lives. Words still cannot describe that fateful day. Remembered always.
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. -- ., Wed, 31 Aug 2011, 22:04:30 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Southern Rhodesia was, for nationality purposes, a country (Dominion) rather than a colony from 1.1.49 so it appears that your mother was a Citizen of the UK & Colonies by descent.
There were some special provisions for Southern Rhodesians to become CUKC after the UDI in 1965, but that depends on whether any application was made for you at the time.
All that said, for a while, the British Embassy in Harare were saying that people who had a CUKC by descent parent, and had a grandparent born in Southern Rhodesia before it became a colony in 1923 (at which point it was a protectorate), were eligible for British citizenship. Those pages seem now to be have been taken down and it is not clear if they were reflecting the law in the first place. But perhaps talk through the issues with a good UK immigration solicitor.
As a minimum, you should be eligible for an Ancestry Visa: http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk
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. -- Ray, Wed, 31 Aug 2011, 15:27:29 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Descent Bob.
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British citizenship and Southern Rhodesia -- Bob, Wed, 31 Aug 2011, 4:33:22 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
My mother was born in Southern Rhodesia in 1952 when it was still a colony. I was also born in Rhodesia in 1972
My mother has a British passport and both her parents were born in England.
Is she a British citizen by decent or a British citizen because Rhodesia was a colony which basically means she was "born" in the UK
I would like to apply for a British passport and would like to know if my mother is a British citizen which entitles me to apply for a passport via decent or do I have to go the ancestral route?
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723833
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The Portuguese are returning to Africa -- Bob, Wed, 31 Aug 2011, 4:28:52 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
I heard a report on the BBC about the economic crisis in Europe. It reported some Portuguese are returning to Africa.
Portugal's Reverse Migration
More:
programme information
Listen now (15 minutes)
Available since today.
1/5. How Portuguese graduates are forced to leave their country to find work.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01478z3
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`for our people, Obama is a warmonger, like another Bush' -- Bob, Tue, 30 Aug 2011, 4:16:41 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Malalai Joya, appearing on ABC's Q&A program, called President Obama '... a warmonger, like another Bush'.
Monday 29 August, 2011
Melbourne Writers Festival
Video
download episode wmv | mp4 (200 MB)
The Questions - Transcript - Tweets - Panellists
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3299482.htm
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. -- Ray, Mon, 29 Aug 2011, 14:53:44 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
"I still believe no one can defeat us, we are the kings of rugby. Don't worry about that team who does funny things before the game, in your hands they will be humbled and will take their defeat,".
Jacob Zuma to the Springboks at his Pretoria residence over the weekend.
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Mozambique -- Ray, Mon, 29 Aug 2011, 14:47:02 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Don't expect to find any prawns, everything they catch is shipped to Europe. The air is filled with smoke because they are turning all the forests into charcoal for cooking fires.
The locals will walk right up to you and immediately appoint themselves as your inseparable lifelong servant and guide. Dismissal will only occur with a shot or two of pepper spray.
Otherwise, enjoy.
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Bob -- Jo Pete, Sun, 28 Aug 2011, 10:18:56 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT Bob I hope to Christ that you are going to an isolated area with no internet coverage,
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Mozambique -- Bob, Sun, 28 Aug 2011, 8:03:26 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Hello Everbody,
I have the possibility of a move to Mozambique avec my wife. Location is not confirmed yet but i work in support of the Offshore industry.
Could anyone give me some good and bad points about living there?
Thanks
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=730188
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pseudo rugblowjob -- scripsi, Sun, 28 Aug 2011, 3:38:16 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Like anybody gives a shit ...
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. -- Ray, Sat, 27 Aug 2011, 21:30:20 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
I am proud to announce that my following mates are in the USA Rugby world cup squad.
Tai Enosa (Belmont Shore Rugby Club)
Nese Malifa (Formerly of Belmont Shore)
Mike Petri (Formerly of Belmont Shore)
Dallen Stanford, USA team media manager.
Good luck Guys.
They will play against Australia (Eeeyow)
Ireland Ranked seventh
Italy ranked eleventh
Russia ranked nineteenth.
The USA is ranked eighteenth.
We hope that they will win at least one game.
They played against the Boks in the last world cup.
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Maggi -- Jay, Fri, 26 Aug 2011, 2:31:12 (CPE-58-169-244-158.lns2.wel.bigpond.net.au/58.169.244.158)
Hi Maggi, hope you enjoy Leo Sayer's concert and I am sure you will, all the best.
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Anglicans -- Ray, Thu, 25 Aug 2011, 20:54:45 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Oh Yeah?? Well who supported Mugabe in the 70's.??
Huh???
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ZIMBABWE – Show your support for persecuted Anglicans -- Bob, Thu, 25 Aug 2011, 4:57:37 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
The Mothers’ Union, USPG and other global Anglican and Episcopal groups are encouraging their members to visit a new Facebook page set up to support Anglicans in Zimbabwe who are facing persecution from a pro-Mugabe excommunicated bishop. Go to Facebook page to join more than 800 people around the world who have said that they are standing with Anglicans in Zimbabwe.
http://www.churchnewsireland.org/news/world-news/zimbabwe-show-your-support-for-persecuted-anglicans/
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Leo Sayer -- Maggi, Thu, 25 Aug 2011, 4:09:35 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
Hi Jay. Interesting. A group of us who grew up with his music have tickets to go see him as he is doing a 40th Anniversary tour. Thanks :)
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EARTHQUAKE!! -- Ray, Thu, 25 Aug 2011, 1:02:28 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
A 5.9-strong earthquake rocked the East Coast today, with aftershocks felt from New York to Florida. Official buildings throughout Washington D.C. were evacuated, emptying the nation's capitol of bureaucrats and causing a momentary but notable economic stimulus to be felt across the nation, dwarfing the aftershocks of the quake itself.
Some damage was reported, however. A woman in Virginia screamed and called 911 when her outdoor flower vase fell and shattered on her back porch. President Obama took a break from his golf game to promise he would declare a national emergency and cut her a bailout check, as her decorative vase was declared "too big to fall."
In the halls of Congress, a Senator's desk overturned while he was sitting at it, revealing an intern.
At the Federal Reserve, the massive printing presses that churn out an endless stream of bailout money shuddered to a halt, causing a pause in food inflation but panicking bailout recipients who are now completely dependent on government money for their existence. Meanwhile at the Pentagon, internal emails revealed a flurry of questions asking for any intelligence on whether the earthquake was an "act of terrorism" and if so, could Mother Nature be arrested under the Patriot Act and held in Guantanamo Bay?
Some buildings were damaged in the quake. The White House was found to be leaning to the left, and the U.S. Treasury was discovered to be leaning on China.
Right after the quake settled down, millions of Maryland and Virginia residents all looked at each other and wondered, "Why didn't we ever buy an emergency water filter?" The entire population, it turns out, was ill-prepared in terms of stored food, emergency lighting and community defense, prompting the gang bangers in the area to join hands and pray for an even larger earthquake so they could begin looting like the recent youth riots in London.
The USDA building suffered some minor damage during the quake, collapsing the agency's GMO division and causing a setback to Monsanto which was counting on the USDA to keep pushing its patented genetically engineered seeds.
The real shockwaves of the day, however, were felt economically as runaway debt spending under the Obama administration racked up $3 million per minute, meaning the three-minute earthquake cost the nation $9 million in clock time, not even counting any actual damage. Under Obama's leadership, the national debt has increased by $4 trillion (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...) -- a number that should measure 9.0 on the Richter scale of runaway debt, if anyone were actually paying attention.
The mainstream media, meanwhile, blamed the entire earthquake on Ron Paul, who it proclaimed "cannot win the Presidency" but somehow has mutant superhero powers that allow him to control the Earth's tectonic plates. Ron "Richter" Paul later stated he would use his newfound powers to shift Washington D.C. into the Atlantic ocean, turning it into a small island nation that could drive itself into ruin while the rest of the United States disconnects from Washington and experiences economic freedom and prosperity.
Next, Ron Paul promises he will cause a tidal wave of public support to wash over the nation and reclaim liberty from the tyrants currently running the country. The status quo political establishment, of course, will characterize it as a "national disaster" and try to convince the American people they would be much better off remaining enslaved to a dictatorial nanny state that rules over them by decree.
But the People, having now witnessed the devastating aftershocks of Obamanomics -- and its Washington D.C. epicenter -- may have already wised up and prepared themselves to embrace real freedom in America.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033417_East_Coast_earthquake.html#ixzz1VzhOMqI6
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Leo Sayer -- Jay, Wed, 24 Aug 2011, 22:43:00 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
Hi Maggi
Yes Leo was in Rhodies around 1976.
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Leo Sayer -- Maggi, Wed, 24 Aug 2011, 4:51:29 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
Have a vague recollection of someone telling me that he visited Rhodesia years back before he became very popular. Anyone able to confirm this. Thank you
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Thank you -- Roger, Tue, 23 Aug 2011, 21:41:58 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Thank you so much Ray, I will contact your friend.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 23 Aug 2011, 20:49:59 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Hi Roger, it is pretty clear that toxic substances called free radicals disrupt and poison cells and cause them to multiply uncontrollably. The antidote for these toxins is anti-oxidants which occur in all fresh fruits and vegetables, lemons not being the least. It therefore follows that chemotherapy, surgery and radiation promoted by murderous money grubbing medicinists has nothing to do with the cause and cure of cancer.
However my book points out that the best most natural anti-oxidant ever for cells is SOD, a copper containing enzyme. In order for the body to produce SOD you need copper. Anti-oxidants form food leave the body within hours, SOD is permanently inside the nucleus of the cells.
My book points out that copper has been removed from our diet. (Commercial agriculture and food processing being the culprit.)
I provide references that SOD is NOT found in cancer cells only healthy cells. When copper is injected into cancer cells they revert to normal. (References)
I point out that nuts (Cashews walnuts, almonds oysters and liver) are loaded with copper. Solgar makes copper glycinate pills, a natural form of copper. (Avoid copper gluconate, glucose interferes with copper absorption).
My book is the ONLY book that disseminates the copper research and findings.
I have a retail outlet shopping cart for the book courtesy my friend Anthony Morrocco. It is at
https://morroccomethod.com/en/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=151&category_id=23
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Lemons -- Roger, Tue, 23 Aug 2011, 6:46:57 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Hey Ray....
Just a first request...
Does the following ring true?
Also, we wish to purchase your book, can you please re post the contact details.
Thanks,
Roger.
Lemon (Citrus) is a miraculous product to kill cancer cells. It is 10,000 times stronger than chemotherapy.
Why do we not know about that?
Because there are laboratories interested in making a synthetic version that will bring them huge profits.
You can now help a friend in need by letting him/her know that lemon juice is beneficial in preventing the disease. Its taste is pleasant and it does not produce the horrific effects of chemotherapy. How many people will die while this closely guarded secret is kept, so as not to jeopardize the beneficial multimillionaires large corporations? As you know, the lemon tree is known for its varieties of lemons and limes.. You can eat the fruit in different ways: you can eat the pulp, juice press, prepare drinks, sorbets, pastries, etc... It is credited with many virtues, but the most interesting is the effect it produces on cysts and tumours.. This plant is a proven remedy against cancers of all types. Some say it is very useful in all variants of cancer. It is considered also as an anti microbial spectrum against bacterial infections and fungi, effective against internal parasites and worms, it regulates blood pressure which is too high and an antidepressant, combats stress and nervous disorders.
The source of this information is fascinating: it comes from one of the largest drug manufacturers in the world, says that after more than 20 laboratory tests since 1970, the extracts revealed that: It destroys the malignant cells in 12 cancers, including colon, breast, prostate, lung and pancreas ... The compounds of this tree showed 10,000 times better than the product Adriamycin, a drug normally used chemotherapeutic in the world, slowing the growth of cancer cells. And what is even more astonishing: this type of therapy with lemon extract only destroys malignant cancer cells and it does not affect healthy cells.
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Good one -- Jo Pete, Mon, 22 Aug 2011, 17:51:32 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Jay Good one!!
I'm hearing strong rumours from Zim that Chief Police Commissioner Chiura murderd Majuru which would seem to indicate that he has designs on the ailing Bobojaan Bob's presidency.
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Zimbabwe's Diamond Fields -- Bob, Mon, 22 Aug 2011, 6:54:51 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Have you bought a diamond recently?
Would you really know where it came from?
Assignment goes into Zimbabwe's Marange diamond fields and uncovers evidence of torture camps and widescale killings.
As the international community argues over whether these diamonds should be sold on the open market, we ask if President Robert Mugabe will ever face prosecution for these crimes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p002vsn0
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Smile -- Jay, Sun, 21 Aug 2011, 1:06:14 (203-46-11-172.tpips.telstra.com/203.46.11.172)
AMAZING SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES:
1. AVOID CUTTING YOURSELF WHEN SLICING VEGETABLES BY GETTING SOMEONE ELSE TO HOLD THE VEGETABLES WHILE YOU CHOP.
2. AVOID ARGUMENTS WITH THE FEMALES ABOUT LIFTING THE TOILET SEAT BY USING THE SINK.
3. FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE SUFFERERS ~ SIMPLY CUT YOURSELF AND BLEED FOR A FEW MINUTES, THUS REDUCING THE PRESSURE ON YOUR VEINS. REMEMBER TO USE A TIMER.
4. A MOUSE TRAP PLACED ON TOP OF YOUR ALARM CLOCK WILL PREVENT YOU FROM ROLLING OVER AND GOING BACK TO SLEEP AFTER YOU HIT THE SNOOZE BUTTON.
5. IF YOU HAVE A BAD COUGH, TAKE A LARGE DOSE OF LAXATIVES. THEN YOU'LL BE AFRAID TO COUGH.
6. YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE DUCT TAPE.
7. IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.
DAILY THOUGHT:
SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES - NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.
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The collapse of the US UK special relationship in 1973 -- Bob, Sat, 20 Aug 2011, 7:27:07 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Mike Thomson investigates the collapse of the US UK special relationship in 1973, via a revealing transcript of a phone call between President Nixon and Henry Kissinger which suggests the split was deeper and more severe than previously thought.
As Britain joined the EEC, US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger became increasingly annoyed at the lack of support by Edward Heath's government for American foreign policy. Mike uncovers papers which suggest that in retaliation, the US switched off the supply of intelligence to the UK.
Among those Mike speaks to are former Defence and Foreign Secretary Lord Carrington and Lord Powell, later Margaret Thatcher's Private Secretary.
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006sk3k
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Australia's Skills Shortage Epidemic -- Bob, Sat, 20 Aug 2011, 6:02:37 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
For years there's been warnings that Australia's facing a skills challenge of epic proportions. Now with a number of mega-mining projects about to ramp up, there's growing concern about how to meet the looming demand for tens of thousands of skilled and professional workers. One of the solutions is overseas labour. And the Gillard Government is finalising the criteria for a new labour agreement that will make it easier for the mega-resource projects to access foreign workers.
But a major gas conference held in Brisbane this week has heard that many of the occupations facing critical shortages aren't on any government list.
AUDIO
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/breakfast/stories/2011/3296246.htm
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Hi Pam -- Raymond Schep, Fri, 19 Aug 2011, 17:16:16 (adsl-69-235-230-208.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/69.235.230.208)
Hi Pam,
So that explains it! I must have gotten re-possessed a long time ago.
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US economic woes . . . -- Pam, Fri, 19 Aug 2011, 13:15:54 (s72-38-120-90.static.comm.cgocable.net/72.38.120.90)
The current down trend in the USA economy has hit everybody really
hard...
My neighbour got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.
Wives are having sex with their husbands because they can't afford batteries.
CEO's are now playing miniature golf.
Exxon-Mobil laid off 25 Congressmen.
A stripper was killed when her audience showered her with rolls of pennies while she danced.
I saw a fundamentalist Mormon with only one wife.
If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or the bank.
McDonald's is selling the 1/4 ouncer.
Angelina Jolie adopted a child from America.
Parents in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their children's names.
My cousin had an exorcism but couldn't afford to pay for it, and they re-possessed her!
A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico.
A picture is now only worth 200 words.
When Bill and Hillary travel together, they now have to share a room.
The Treasure Island casino in Las Vegas is now managed by Somali pirates.
And, finally....
I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc. I called the Suicide Hotline and got a call center in Pakistan. When I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck
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Justice -- Barry, Thu, 18 Aug 2011, 22:56:50 (5aded033.bb.sky.com/90.222.208.51)
Solomon Mujuru (Rex Nhongo) died last night in an electrical fire on a Beatrice farm that he stole from a white farmer hmmmmm!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14543048
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Ray On U-Tube -- Ray, Tue, 16 Aug 2011, 15:45:20 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Rainman (Ray) scores Try of the Season against the 2011 National 7s Champions!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XzXjbTMYvA
Yes, they were making fun of me, but as we got close to the try line, things started getting serious...
And Ladies and Gentlemen, yes, the same team I played against became the National Sevens Champs last sunday!!
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COLLAR BOMB HOAX -- BARRY (BLOODY AMAZING OUTCOME), Tue, 16 Aug 2011, 3:03:55 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Ray and all ;developments
;Reads like a thriller paperback
Sydney collar bomb hoax: police name Australian suspect arrested in US
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-collar-bomb-hoax-police-name-australian-suspect-arrested-in-us-20110816-1iv7m.html#ixzz1V9ZbgrxX
50-year-old arrested in Kentucky home
NSW police identify links to Pulver family
'Chain of circumstantial evidence'
Extradition may take some time
In an extraordinary breakthrough in an extraordinary case, a 50-year-old Australian man named as Paul "Doug" Peters has been arrested in the United States over the collar bomb hoax on Sydney schoolgirl Madeleine Pulver.
Mr Peters, who police say does business in Australia and the US, was arrested near Louisville, Kentucky, about 5.30am AEST today (3.30pm Kentucky time on Monday) by an FBI SWAT team and two detectives from the NSW Robbery and Serious Crime Squad's Strike Force Haddon.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-collar-bomb-hoax-police-name-australian-suspect-arrested-in-us-20110816-1iv7m.html#ixzz1V9XHDSHB
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Long shot... -- James, Sun, 14 Aug 2011, 22:46:30 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.163.176)
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A bit of A long shot, but these two Trevor Symmonds came up in the UK electoral roll wehn I typed in his name on Google...
James
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Name
Address
Other Occupants
Electoral Roll
Director Info Length of Occupancy Neighbours Property Price 1 Trevor K Symmonds Leatherhead, Surrey, KT22
Full Address Rosamund L Byerley Emma Stacey Christopher P Eisner 2002 View
2 Trevor Keith Symmonds
Age: 52 Cobham, Surrey, KT11
Full Address Emma Stacey Fenella J Arlidge Emma Symmonds 2003-08
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looking for an old mate -- Trevor Symmonds, Sun, 14 Aug 2011, 22:10:25 (host86-129-93-121.range86-129.btcentralplus.com/86.129.93.121)
I am trying to contact Trevor Symmonds from Harare I met up wih him in he uk but lost his details. Would be good to find him again
Tony Waring
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books -- Oom Dawie, Sat, 13 Aug 2011, 11:27:48 (h63.99.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.91.99.63)
Hello Dave
go to www.trishjackson.com
I'm sure she would be dlighted to help you
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An aspiring novelist needs a Rhodesian techical advisor -- Dave Hood, Fri, 12 Aug 2011, 15:10:44 (174-148-191-163.pools.spcsdns.net/174.148.191.163)
I'm working on novel. One of the characters is a ex-pat Rhodesian. The timeline is current so this character would need to be in his mid 50s.
I can use the help of a Rhodesian who can help with this characters bio, with his vocabulary, with his mannerisms.
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An American in Tottenham -- Bob, Fri, 12 Aug 2011, 8:04:17 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Aaron Biber, 89, stooped to pick through the debris of his ransacked barber shop, which he said he had run for 41 years. “This country has changed,” he said. “We’ve lost something.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/08/world/europe/08britain.html?pagewanted=all
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. -- Ray, Thu, 11 Aug 2011, 22:34:36 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Terry the book has given me the heads up then when I go to Sokolove 100 km north of Mombasa (Obama's birth place) I will have to be on full alert for Somali kidnapper's.
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Book Reviews -- Ray, Thu, 11 Aug 2011, 15:12:16 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Hey Terry!
The Book "A Guide To The Birds Of East Africa" by Nicholas Drayson is better than Mark Obmascik's book "The Big Year, A Tale Of Fowl Obsession! (Three birders competing to see who can see the most birds in North America in one year).
Birds of East Africa was boring in the beginning but in the second half I became riveted and could not put the book down. A lot more drama and romance than Obmascik's book.
Not only that I will be in Kenya in Novemeber, and the book has provided tremendous information. I will be after the extremely rare Sokolove Scops Owl in the Sokolove Forest! At night!
The Big Year is an upcoming comedy film starring Owen Wilson, Steve Martin, Jack Black, Jim Parsons, Rashida Jones, Angelica Huston, Dianne Wiest, JoBeth Williams, Brian Dennehy, Rosamund Pike and Tim Blake Nelson. The Big Year is directed by David Frankel and written by Howard Franklin. The film is based on the book The Big Year: A Tale of Man, Nature and Fowl Obsession which was written by Mark Obmascik. The film is set to be released on October 14, 2011 in the United States.[2] Filming began on March 3, 2010.[3] The film will be released in the United Kingdom on November 14.[4]
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No Special Medal For Rhodesia Peacekeepers -- Bob, Tue, 09 Aug 2011, 3:13:26 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
The government has given the thumbs down to calls for Australian troops who served in the former Rhodesia in 1979-80 to receive the Australian Service Medal.
The government said it accepted the recommendation of the independent Defence Honours and Awards Appeal's Tribunal inquiry into recognition of service with the Commonwealth Monitoring Force Rhodesia 1979-80.
http://www.australianews.com.au/story?cityid=d1de82e1-fce9-4f45-9541-79d83e888155&storyid=26cd1cad-936d-47ae-a6f0-dff19d5c1c6d
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. -- Ray, Mon, 08 Aug 2011, 17:50:42 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
My Rugby club, Belmont Shore, is the National Sevens Rugby Champions of the USA for 2011 as of yesterday on Treasure Island, San Francisco.
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Moving from the UK to Africa? -- Bob, Mon, 08 Aug 2011, 4:29:18 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Award winning production company is seeking families who are emmigrating to Africa. We are developing a potential documentary for ITV and are looking for families with kids who are moving to achieve their dream.
If you would like to know more please email me at naomi@offthefence.com
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=720422
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Yanks Down Under -- Chuck, Sun, 07 Aug 2011, 5:56:39 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Friendly forum community for Americans living in Australia
http://yanksdownunder.net
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Looking for Bill Smallman... -- Lawrence Gibbins (Hopeful), Thu, 04 Aug 2011, 19:17:28 (cliente-31427.iberbanda.es/83.230.186.193)
My dad Lawrence Gibbins is trying to find his long lost cousin Bill Smallman, ex Middlesex regiment (Korea), then Rhodesian Army circa 1955/ 56. The last time my dad saw him was 20 or 30 years ago and he was living in Rhodesia. Does anyone know if he still alive today and if so, of his whereabouts?
Thanks! Nathalie
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. -- Ray, Thu, 04 Aug 2011, 15:17:09 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Wew! the problem is we would never have known until they found out is was a fake. She is beautiful.
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New South Africa - Why the Exodus? -- Bob, Thu, 04 Aug 2011, 6:07:48 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXIEqX7aB9U&NR=1
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COLLAR BOMB -- BARRY (horrified), Thu, 04 Aug 2011, 1:44:44 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
RAY and all
More to come no doubt!
But
A device attached to a terrified Sydney teenager for 10 hours yesterday was a fake, police have confirmed.
"A very, very elaborate hoax as it turned out," NSW Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Murdoch said today after police released Madeleine Pulver, 18, from the device after a delicate operation.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/bomb-device-attached-to-mosman-schoolgirl-was-a-very-very-elaborate-hoax-20110804-1icbe.html#ixzz1U14rvgMo
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Collar Bomb on 18 Year Old Girl In Sydney -- Ray, Wed, 03 Aug 2011, 15:14:25 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
The bombs are also used by Colombian guerrillas to extort farmers. In 2000, horrifying images were broadcast across the globe of dairy farmer Elvia Cortes with a collar bomb strapped to her neck. She was killed after refusing to pay $7500.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 03 Aug 2011, 15:06:08 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
And on my left Riaan Hamilton, USA Eagles.
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The South African Connection -- Ray, Mon, 01 Aug 2011, 16:34:48 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Photo Sevens Rugby Training, 4 South Africans, Matt Hawkins Captain USA Eagles Sevens, Ray Ray, Belmont Shore Sevens, on Right, Dallen Sanford, USA Eagles Media Manager, and USA Eagles Sevens.
Taken at California State University, Long Beach.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dtj3BoqGTBA/TjOTR7JyeFI/AAAAAAAAKo8/cxRcl6uFeHs/s1600/Shore+7s+8.JPG
or goto www.pakiscorner.com Belmont Shore Sevens Article.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 01 Aug 2011, 15:40:46 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Hi Barry glad to hear that. If anyone has arthritis, or prone to inflammation of the joints, they should always take about 3-4 omega-3 capsules a day.
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Canada - Ten-year multiple-entry visa -- Bob, Mon, 01 Aug 2011, 11:45:17 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Improvements to make it easier to visit Canada are coming soon, announced the Honourable Jason Kenney, Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism. A new ten-year multiple-entry visa will make applying more efficient for applicants and better use government resources.
“More applications and higher expectations mean that Citizenship and Immigration Canada needs a more responsive and flexible processing system,” said Minister Kenney. “To achieve that, the Department is providing applicants and staff with the right tools to deliver on those expectations.”
http://britishexpats.com/news/latest/multiple-entry-visa-canada/
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The People Running the War -- Skuzapo1, Mon, 01 Aug 2011, 11:05:36 (78-86-46-198.zone2.bethere.co.uk/78.86.46.198)
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/world-africa-14311834 >
Mike Borlace said this 30 odd years ago after he was betrayed and captured, and few people believed him
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Don't forget 8pm tonight on BBC Radio 4! -- Bob, Mon, 01 Aug 2011, 5:55:47 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012wf3s
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Zimbabwe justice -- Jo Pete, Sun, 31 Jul 2011, 17:55:32 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. An aquaintance sold his very substantial business in Byo to a kaf.....munt. He wasn't paid so took the munt to court. Won his case so the munt called out some Zanu PF thugs. The oke just managed to escape Zim and the thugs.
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Hi -- Maggi, Sun, 31 Jul 2011, 7:01:01 (ppp121-44-166-130.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.166.130)
Hi James. No problems. I do chat on FB to Pauline, keeps us in touch with each other. Thank goodness of computers / FB etc.
Life here in Oz has been very good to us, yes stressful at times, extremely busy often I do 10 hours a day non-stop, but I do love it. If you like old architecture you would like this site:
http://www.riverineclub.com
The history was it use to be a gentlemans club years ago, but in the 70's the first women were allowed in. Now it is popular for those who enjoy a good meal, perfect place for functions, and best of all not damn pokie machines... and real wood fires burning in winter adds an air of ye old world charm.
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Thank you -- Maggi, Sun, 31 Jul 2011, 6:54:22 (ppp121-44-166-130.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.166.130)
Thanks Barry, you are a star. We are thinking of driving to Melbourne, taking the ferry and car across, a few days for us all, the conference and I do the rest... Really looking forward to a break, we have had an extremely tough (busy) year and a little burn out I think is lurking... everyone a work who has been says it is breathtakingly beautiful.
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SWEET POISON -- BARY (THANKS), Sun, 31 Jul 2011, 6:41:14 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Thank's Ray.
All good info as usual.Not sure about giving up my Jack, but the other stuff always 100% on the mark
Tina's kenee is improving on the regime you laid out
She says thanks
Take care
Barry
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TASMANIA -- BARRY (GREAT PLACE), Sun, 31 Jul 2011, 6:25:51 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Hi Maggie
Hobart and Tasmania is a magic place.Hardly any traffic.lots of great places to go.Must hire a car its pretty inexpensive.Port Arthur is a no 1 must the old prison and building tell a deep story of Australia great informitive guides.Salamanca Market in Hobart Saterdays Richmond woth a visit. Tina and I spent 10 days driving around and it was not enough
good site for Tassie
http://www.discovertasmania.com/destinations/hobart_and_surrounds
Have a super time
Cheers Barry
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Yo MAGGI... -- James S, Sun, 31 Jul 2011, 4:22:06 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.163.176)
Yo MAGGI: I THINK I get the picture... All well. Best Regards. James.
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. -- Maggi, Sun, 31 Jul 2011, 2:34:14 (ppp121-44-166-130.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.166.130)
James hi. Just asking a while back I was chatting to Pauline and apparently he sent his regards, could even have been last year. He knows i am in Oz now.. As for coming back here, doubt he ever will..
Heading up to Hobart in a few months time, taking my youngster who is now about 6 inches taller than me with us. Anyone who reads here ever been, just wanted to know what it is like etc.
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. -- Raymond Schep, Sat, 30 Jul 2011, 17:47:39 (adsl-69-235-218-65.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/69.235.218.65)
Hey Barry,
As toxicologist consultant for Disney Pirates of the Caribbean make-up I work with this stuff all the time, one of the preservatives they use diazolidinyl urea is a formaldehyde generator. Orange juice is much worse than this preservative because the methanol from the orange juice goes straight into the bloodstream.
check out the website
http://archive.food.gov.uk/maff/archive/food/infsheet/1993/no17/17orange.htm
It's not the coke its the orange juice you should watch out for!!!
The fact is fruits and vegetables naturally contain methanol. The same enzyme in the human body that metabolizes ethanol to aldehyde which is the actual chemical that lames the brain, also converts methanol to formaldehyde.
Humans have had methanol and formaldehyde in their blood ever since Adam bit in to his first apple. Formaldehyde therefore has always been in human blood for millions of years and can therefore be, in trace amounts of course, considered normal and natural.
You might try and include more beer and wine in your diet as whisky is distilled beer and has all the good anti-oxidants from the hops removed from it. Also the good silica from the barley stays behind when beer is distilled to make whisky. I drink lots of beer and red wine a day, super healthy beverages believe it or not, but may give in to maybe a margarita or two on weekends which is distilled agave ferment. Otherwise a couple or so of Jack Daniels a week should do no harm.
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BBC Radio 4 - Document - 01/08/2011 -- Bob, Sat, 30 Jul 2011, 4:58:40 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
In 1965, the British colony of Rhodesia broke away from the Empire. Ian Smith led the country's ruling white minority into a Unilateral Declaration of Independence.
But black independence fighters waged a long struggle to oust Smith's regime. By the late 1970s, Joshua Nkomo and his ZAPU party, and Robert Mugabe and his ZANU party, were both engaged in a bush war against Smith's regime.
Resolving the situation had become one of the most pressing issues of British foreign policy. The Foreign Secretary David Owen believed he had to bring all parties to the table if a long-term settlement was to be achieved.
Both Owen and Ian Smith had favoured Joshua Nkomo as the first black majority leader of Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe - until, in 1978, Nkomo's ZAPU fighters brought down a civilian Rhodesian airliner, and butchered a group of survivors.
Mike unearths the famous interview shortly afterwards in which Mr Nkomo was heard to chuckle over this most destructive act in the long-running and increasingly bloody independence struggle.
The Rhodesian special forces immediately stepped up plans to assassinate Nkomo. On 13th April 1979, an audacious raid was launched against Nkomo's house in Lusaka - in Zambian territory - but it failed because he wasn't at home.
Veterans of the Rhodesian forces remain convinced today that their intelligence was good and that Nkomo's escape was the result of a tip-off. And a ZAPU leader agrees with that suspicion.
In this edition of Document, Mike Thomson investigates the accusation that it was the British, informed by someone inside the Rhodesian command, who tipped off Nkomo. And he also examines whether the British later did the same when attempts were made on Robert Mugabe's life in Mozambique.
Did the belief that getting all parties to the table was the only way forward mean that, where possible, men who were responsible for what some saw as terrorism were to be protected?
Memos within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office suggest that the survival of Nkomo and Mugabe was indeed due, in part, to British involvement.
In his bid to uncover the truth, Mike talks to members of the Rhodesian defence forces as well as senior British diplomats involved at the time.
Broadcast
Mon 1 Aug 201120:00BBC Radio 4.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012wf3s
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Do you play the UK National Lottery? -- Bob, Fri, 29 Jul 2011, 1:32:50 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
I like the UK lottery and all the money it raises for good causes. Lottery revenue is also funding the 2012 Olympics, both venues and athletes.
I play the UK lottery my subscription and I pay by monthly direct debit. It is very convenient, as I don't have to pay for the whole year upfront; and any prizes are also automatically credited to by bank account. If you would like to help raise money for good causes, why not have a little fun along the way. And you never know, it could be you!
You do need a UK address and bank account to play.
For more info:
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/lotterydrawgames/playbydirectdebit.ftl
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SWEET POISON -- BARRY (SOUNDS TRUE BUT?), Fri, 29 Jul 2011, 1:31:39 (d58-107-113-225.sbr26.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.107.113.225)
Hey Ray.As usual some one sent this to me (only part copy below) it sounds alarming to say the least.But I am always a little skeptical of these "Danger Danger" messages.
I can send the rest but you probably know all about it.
Now Jack Danials and coke is my poison so guess I should cut out the coke LOL.Serious note Tina's sister has MS and sad to say is deteriorating
Barry
COPY
In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus.
Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!
Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.
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