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Curiosity... -- James, Thu, 21 May 2009, 4:08:39 (21Cust96.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.96)
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RAY: Only once did I take a keek at one of these sites - out of curiosity, don't you know - and I regretted it.
Every time I switched on the computer machine thereafter I was greeted with hordes of pop-ups (or whatever they are called) of naked women. I had to get an expert in to get rid of them. Never again.
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. -- ray, Wed, 20 May 2009, 23:36:05 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
My god James, the girl is right, there sure are a lot of women there with not a shred to wear when you google images women with no clothes.
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Prayer... -- James, Wed, 20 May 2009, 2:06:17 (21Cust208.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.208)
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A little girl's prayer.
Dear God, in this year please send clothes for all those poor ladies in Daddy's computer... Amen!
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. -- Ray, Tue, 19 May 2009, 22:06:46 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Trailer, Mugabe and the White African.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxz03dyZj40
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. -- ray, Tue, 19 May 2009, 16:35:25 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Mugabe and the White African is an intimate and moving feature-length documentary, charting one family's extraordinary courage in the face of a relentless campaign of state-sanctioned terror.
In 2008 Mike Campbell, 74 years old - one of the few remaining white farmers to have so far held-out against Mugabe's brutal land seizure programme - took the unprecedented step of challenging President Mugabe before the SADC (South African Development Community) international court - to defend his property and to charge Mugabe and his government with racial discrimination and of violations of Human Rights. This film, much of it shot covertly, documents the astonishing bravery and dignity of a white African family who risked everything they have and everything they are in defence of what is right.
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. -- ray, Tue, 19 May 2009, 16:28:24 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
A man called home to his wife and said, "Honey, I have been asked to go fishing up in Canada with my boss & several of his friends."
"We'll be gone for a week. This is a good opportunity for me to get that promotion I've been wanting, so could you please pack enough clothes for a week and set out my rod and fishing box. We're leaving from the office & I will swing by the house to pick my things up. Oh, please pack my new blue silk pyjamas."
The wife thinks this sounds a bit fishy, but being the good wife she is, did exactly what her husband asked.
The following weekend he came home a little tired but otherwise looking good.
The wife welcomed him home and asked if he caught many fish.
He said, "Yes! Lots of salmon, some bluegill, and a few swordfish, but why didn't you pack my new blue silk pyjamas like I asked you to?"
The wife replied, verry icily,
"I did. They're in your fishing box..."
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Bob, is that you? -- Charlie's Aunt, Mon, 18 May 2009, 7:50:14 (adsl-71-137-2-207.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net/71.137.2.207)
Bill and ajsask - that is really you, isn't it BOB? Wondered where you went! You clever person.
Can't fool us Rhodesians . . . you might be able to pull the wool over our resident South African . . . but not the rest of us.
How about introducing yourself and letting us know a little about you. . . where did you grow up? What school did you go to, etc. It would be nice for you to join in instead of posting links and articles.
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Listen to this and try not to cry! -- ajsask, Mon, 18 May 2009, 6:55:01 (macanp.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.52)
Amazing story of father and son’s SCG dementia breakthrough.
Ray Hadley tells the touching story of a listener who had an outstanding development...
http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_homepage&id=15&Itemid=58
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Leaving South Africa behind -- Bill, Mon, 18 May 2009, 6:25:47 (macanp.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.52)
"My parents raised my two brothers and (me) to get our education, go to university in South Africa and then consider leaving," she says. "They told us that there would be no future in South Africa and that things were going to turn bad. The older I became, the more aware I was of the political situation. We were able to see what was happening in Zimbabwe, which was then Rhodesia. Land was being taken away, there was brutal bloodshed, and Rhodesians were flocking into South Africa."
http://www.jewishaz.com/issues/story.mv?080104+africa
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St Stephen's College Old Boys 50 yr Reunion -- Peter Morris (Celebration), Fri, 15 May 2009, 5:00:44 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Any Old Boy from St Stephen's College, Balla Balla, wishing to participate in the Sept 2009 / Durban, SA Reunion to celebrate 50 years since opening its doors to it first pupils in Jan 1959 should contact me, Speedy Morris, on my International Cell Phone +27 82 574 4719 or on my SA Cell Phone, 082 574 4719 or visit the College website on www ststephenscollegeoldboys co za
This is open to all past pupils, widows, children and parents, and former staff of the College. All welcome.
Regards,
Speedy.
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Patrick -- Adolf, Thu, 14 May 2009, 10:41:09 (access.newcrest.com.au/203.7.175.1)
Patrick admitting to having Tourettes syndrome is a step in the right direction, your comment about not being “stupid enough” is another positive affirmation that you are stupid. The point being this is what I have been saying all along, your admission is as good as an apology therefore no offence taken for past ranting’s.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 13 May 2009, 5:33:19 (adsl-75-56-194-67.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.194.67)
Pam James is a chatty friendly and outgoing person himself, so he has no trouble chatting to people.
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Ps and Qs... -- James, Wed, 13 May 2009, 2:45:48 (21Cust130.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.130)
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PAM: Polite chatting? Oh yes, Ray and I alwaya mind or Ps and Qs until someone with an attitude comes along and
rouses us. I'm based in Hogtown, but I must say I'd rather live in San Diego or thereabouts! I was in Ray's part of the world over Hogmanay and Ne'erday and was really amazed at how friendly and polite people were; must be something to do with the weather.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 13 May 2009, 0:36:30 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Hi Pam, it was cold and rainy in NC.
Its not that hot here either (LA), only gets hot in July.
Do you know James is your neighbor?
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Glad to see some polite chatting . . . -- Pam, Tue, 12 May 2009, 22:52:49 (d141-156-104.home.cgocable.net/24.141.156.104)
Hi there - it is still quite chilly in Southern Ontario.
Would you mind sending some warm sunny days my way?
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. -- Ray, Tue, 12 May 2009, 18:48:31 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
The Japanese called that typhoon the divine wind, or kamikaze, originating that term.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 12 May 2009, 15:23:58 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Morag, yes San Diego is a good place to live, We have a condo in San Marcos, North SD County. My sister is living in it.
James, it was reported that, when Philip II of Spain learned of the result of the expedition, he declared, "I sent the Armada against men, not God's winds and waves" Wikipedia [21]. There was a mini ice age at the time.
However I heard that the worst marine disaster that ever happened was when Kublai Kahn attacked Japan. A typhoon destroyed the entire Mongol fleet of almost a 1000 ships.
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Chief Baboon -- Morag, Tue, 12 May 2009, 14:39:35 (adsl-71-137-2-207.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net/71.137.2.207)
Ray, glad to see you did visit Chief Baboon. I really like that site. I am now living in San Deigo - moved "back" to San Diego about 4 years ago and very happy to have sunshine and warm weather. Monterey is so very beautiful . . but your bones never get warm.
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Cocky Engelsman,,, -- James, Tue, 12 May 2009, 2:06:08 (21Cust67.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.67)
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RAY: Cocky Engelsman, Drake. I always thought the Armada was actually beaten by the weather in 1588. I know a lot of the Spanish ships headed round Scotland after the sea battle and some were wrecked there and in Ireland. And I have heard tell that some dark skinned folks in Ireland and the West of Scotland are dark, not from the black (peat/turn burning houses), but from the added Spanish/Moorish blood.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 12 May 2009, 0:07:53 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
James the story goes that Sir Francis Drake was playing bowls when he was told that the Spanish Armada was coming.
He said there is enough time to finish the game and beat the Spanish. So he finished the game which he lost.
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Chief Baboon jokes better,,, -- James, Mon, 11 May 2009, 22:36:23 (21Cust105.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.105)
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RAY: Yes, that was a weak joke... Coincidentally, there is
a very similar one on Chief Baboon. These ones (below) you have borrowed from the site are good! In BTs favour is the fact that it is very well set up and easy to use.
Off to try some lawn bowling this evening - first time since I was in my teens.
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YEAH DA BULLS!!! -- Ray, Mon, 11 May 2009, 15:27:47 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Thanks Morag, hope life is nice there in the bay.
Thanks asdf, I saw the rhodiechat but it wanted you to pay 4 pounds or something to get in.
Hey Dawie glad to hear there is some life still in the country.
James, nuatty joke.
Here is a posting from Chiefbaboon:
If you have kleptomania,
and if it really gets bad,
You should take something for it.
FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!
Except that one where you're naked in church.
Kinky is using a feather.
Perverted is using the whole chicken.
My short-term memory is not as sharp as it used to be.
Also, my short-term memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
I am a Nobody.
Nobody is Perfect.
Therefore I am Perfect.
I'm not your type.
I'm not inflatable.
Reality is only an illusion
that occurs due to a lack of alcohol.
I like cats too.
Let's exchange recipes.
Don't sweat the petty things.
Don't pet the sweaty things.
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Bob you Knob -- Nellie (bewildered), Mon, 11 May 2009, 13:43:23 (124-169-81-108.dyn.iinet.net.au/124.169.81.108)
B, tears et al,
Bob the Knob,
you have to be joking, here’s the deal, you hold your breath for 26 minutes 29 secs, and then I will listen your kak for the same time, Hau.
Cheers.
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Celebrating Thatcherism 30 years on -- Bob, Mon, 11 May 2009, 7:48:10 (macanp.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.52)
Politics UK
6 days left to listen
Gordon Brown; Labour MP's want change, Mrs Thatcher 30 years on and the history of Big Ben
Listen (Duration: 26 minutes 29 secs)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w0000ch2
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3 coins... -- James, Sun, 10 May 2009, 16:22:59 (21Cust249.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.249)
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A father walks into a restaurant with his young son..
He gives the young boy 3 coins to play with to keep him occupied.
Suddenly, the boy starts choking, going blue in the face... The father realizes the boy has swallowed the coins and starts slapping him on the back..
The boy coughs up 2 of the coins, but keeps choking.
Looking at his son, the father is panicking, shouting for help.
A well dressed, attractive, and serious looking woman in a blue business suit is sitting at the coffee bar reading a newspaper and sipping a cup of coffee. At the sound of the commotion, she looks up, puts her coffee cup down, neatly folds the newspaper and places it on the counter, gets up from her seat and makes her way, unhurried, across the restaurant.
Reaching the boy, the woman carefully drops his pants, takes hold of the boy's testicles and starts to squeeze and twist, gently at first and then ever so firmly... After a few seconds the boy convulses violently and coughs up the last coin, which the woman deftly catches in her free hand.
Releasing the boy's testicles, the woman hands the coin to the father and walks back to her seat at the coffee bar without saying a word.
As soon as he is sure that his son has suffered no ill effects, the father rushes over to the woman and starts thanking her saying,"I've never seen anybody do anything like that before, it was fantastic. Are you a doctor? "
'No,' the woman replied. I'm with tax department...'
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Chief Baboon Address -- Morag, Sun, 10 May 2009, 14:09:01 (adsl-71-137-2-207.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net/71.137.2.207)
http://www.thechiefbaboon.com/
Here it is. Enjoy.
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The Chief Baboon -- Watcher in the Rye, Sun, 10 May 2009, 13:05:38 (h194.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/174.131.41.194)
Google it dear Anon, dear anon, dear anon,
Google it.
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chief bobbejaan -- anon, Sun, 10 May 2009, 12:58:20 (NoHost/77.208.187.187)
morag pray tell where one finds the chief baboon. i've tried him dot com and dot za. thanks.
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Rhodesian Sites -- Morag, Sun, 10 May 2009, 6:51:19 (adsl-71-137-2-207.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net/71.137.2.207)
Try the Chief Baboon - really fantastic place to go. Lots of jokes . . . but be careful it is really contagious you could spend all night/day on there. Highly recommended.
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alternative rhodie sites -- asdf, Sun, 10 May 2009, 3:37:41 (host81-158-217-227.range81-158.btcentralplus.com/81.158.217.227)
Ray & Co
There are a many many many alternative Rhodie sites
Avoid (as a personal opinion) like the plauge rhodie chat
alledges 3500 memebers as 10 people who post:
with (it is alledge who has to defend his virute)
was there once ....
They will bar you and still take your monney and ignore your emails
#########bill McD get back any time you like
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bulawayo -- dawie, Sat, 09 May 2009, 8:42:24 (vc-41-27-116-78.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.116.78)
yo all been in bulawayo for a week or so. gee the place is run down but can buy most things now rand or us dollars beer at queens ground bar seven rand same as south africa. the trade fair was on had a night with the cattle farmers party from the trade fair all the whites very possitive there lots of beer and was welcome as a gate crasher. changes happening will take time tho. had a meet with the minister of industries mdc guy loads of problems to sort out like the power and costs of ammenities but goverment is meeting at least with companies and groups possitive for thoses still there and staying we shall see.
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POTS and July Braai 09 -- Caro, Thu, 07 May 2009, 12:04:16 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
Just moving this up again and will continue to do so-
It is the time of year coming up in UK for POTS (Pig On The Spit) June 19/20 and the July Braai last weekend in July. Both events are being held at Beechwood (info on the site below)
Booking forms for July Braai are available from the following site: http://rpcuk.synthasite.com/
I keep telling them they haven't put the POTS booking forms and info there but so far it has not been added, so if you want a booking form for POTS please email me with the request and l will send you one:
admin@rhodesiansreunited.co.uk
Caro :-)
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. -- ray, Wed, 06 May 2009, 22:19:29 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
So TCITPSS, are you masquerading as a Hank clone to stir things up???
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. -- Ray, Wed, 06 May 2009, 20:31:55 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Only Pink Safari Suit can come up with stuff like that...
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... -- Hank's other brother Hank, Wed, 06 May 2009, 17:10:38 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
The pastor told the man he was taking him to see his long lost wife. They knocked on the door, both very excited. As she opened the door the pastor shrieked, gayly, "Here's your husband! Here's your husband!"
A stunned silence followed as the man and the pastor beheld an old man wearing an old checkered skirt.
"Where is the old lady who lives here?" demanded the pastor, "this is her long lost husband."
"Laddie, there's nae lassies here but please come in."
There was an antiquated scanner incorrectly connected to an even older IBM 386 on a dusty desk. A framed, yellowed photograph of a man wearing a flat-rimmed hat with a pinched top hung above the desk. He must have been a war hero because he was festooned with medal ribbons.
The pastor relayed the story to the elderly Scottish cross-dresser and how they were hoping to find the man's wife.
"I'm so sorry" croaked the Scots accent and he took the man's perfumed hands in his own.
Five minutes later the pastor thought he should leave as they were still holding hands, looking into each other's eyes. As he let himself out he heard the elderly Scottish cross-dresser say, "If ya canna find the lassie, I'll be yer wife laddie"
The man replied "Ja I'd like that mevrou but I'd want you to learn to praat Afrikaans. And watch rugby."
The elderly Scottie cross-dresser reached under his frayed checkered skirt and held up a small green plastic cube shaped thing with a hole in one end.
"I foond it doon the used store laddie, what ya think it is then?"
"Hy is a pencil-sharpener mevrou"
"Aye laddie, and what do ya do with it?"
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Hank-like clones... -- James, Wed, 06 May 2009, 15:57:02 (21Cust47.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.47)
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RAY, NELLIE: I'm afraid that when there is puerile and gratuitous rudeness about it's a case of giving a dog a bad name; I usually blame Hank the Wanker; he does use several AKAs. I offer my apologies to Scripsie whom I mistook for the rude Wanker.
I delight in the cut and thrust of this site, don't you, Ray? And one only needs to post anything and Hank or some Hank-like clone is sure to jump in with both feet...
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The priest coughs a few times... -- James., Wed, 06 May 2009, 15:47:08 (21Cust47.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.47)
A drunk staggers into a Catholic Church, enters a confessional booth, sits down, but says nothing.
The Priest coughs a few times to get his attention but the drunk continues to sit there.
Finally, the Priest pounds three times on the wall.
The drunk mumbles, "ain't no use knockin, there's no paper on this side either!"
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Mary Clancy goes up to Father O'Grady after his Sunday morning service, and she's in tears.
He says, "So what's bothering you, Mary my dear?
"She says, "Oh, Father, I've got terrible news. My husband passed away last night."
The priest says, "Oh, Mary, that's terrible. Tell me, Mary, did he have any last requests?"
She says, "That he did, Father." The priest says,
"What did he ask, Mary? "
She says, He said, 'Please Mary, put down that
gun...'
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Beautiful Story -- Ray, Tue, 05 May 2009, 21:25:12 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
The brand new pastor and his wife, newly assigned to their first ministry, to reopen a church in suburban Brooklyn , arrived in early October excited about their opportunities When they saw their church, it was very run down and needed much work... They set a goal to have everything done in time to have their first service on Christmas Eve.
They worked hard, repairing pews, plastering walls, painting, etc, and on December 18 were ahead of schedule and just about finished. On December 19 a terrible tempest a driving rainstorm hit the area and lasted for two days.
On the 21st, the pastor went over to the church. His heart sank when he saw that the roof had leaked, causing a large area of plaster about 20 feet by 8 feet to fall off the front wall of the sanctuary just behind the pulpit, beginning about head high.
The pastor cleaned up the mess on the floor, and not knowing what else to do but postpone the Christmas Eve service, headed home.
On the way he noticed that a local business was having a flea market type sale for charity so he stopped in. One of the items was a beautiful, handmade, ivory colored, crocheted tablecloth with exquisite work, fine colors and a Cross embroidered right in the center. It was just the right size to cover up the hole in the front wall. He bought it and headed back to the church.
By this time it had started to snow. An older woman running from the opposite direction was trying to catch the bus.. She missed it. The pastor invited her to wait in the warm church for the next bus 45 minutes later.
She sat in a pew and paid no attention to the pastor while he got a ladder, hangers, etc., to put up the tablecloth as a wall tapestry. The pastor could hardly believe how beautiful it looked and it covered up the entire problem area.
Then he noticed the woman walking down the center aisle. Her face was like a sheet.. 'Pastor,' she asked, 'where did you get that tablecloth?'
The pastor explained.. The woman asked him to check the lower right corner to see if the initials, EBG were crocheted into it there. They were. These were the initials of the woman, and she had made this tablecloth 35 years before, in Austria The woman could hardly believe it as the pastor told how he had just gotten the Tablecloth. The woman explained that before the war she and her husband were well-to-do people in Austria .
When the Nazis came, she was forced to leave. Her husband was going to follow her the next week. He was captured, sent to prison and never saw her husband or her home again.
The pastor wanted to give her the tablecloth; but she made the pastor keep it for the church.
The pastor insisted on driving her home, that was the least he could do.. She lived on the other side of Staten Island and was only in Brooklyn for the day for a housecleaning job.
What a wonderful service they had on Christmas Eve. The church was almost full. The music and the spirit were great. At the end of the service, the pastor and his wife greeted everyone at the door and many said that they would return.
One older man, whom the pastor recognized from the neighborhood continued to sit in one of the pews and stare, and the pastor wondered why he wasn't leaving.
The man asked him where he got the tablecloth on the front wall because it was identical to one that his wife had made years ago when they lived in Austria before the war and how could there be two tablecloths so much alike.
H e told the pastor how the Nazis came, how he forced his wife to flee for her safety and he was supposed to follow her, but he was arrested and put in a prison.. He never saw his wife or his home again all the 35 years in between.
The pastor then said to him, "Please get in my car, I am going to take you to a woman friend I just met..."
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Vague -- Vogue, Tue, 05 May 2009, 21:14:04 (host81-158-217-227.range81-158.btcentralplus.com/81.158.217.227)
Patrick, for kerrrists sake, please get off the fence and say what you feel
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. -- Ray, Tue, 05 May 2009, 18:55:59 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
James I am aware that our dear friend Bruce Muller has had some run ins with people on that site, so I do conclude, weeds pop up everywhere. Glad you love him I am still trying to make up my mind.
However I guess I have to be tolerant of weeds because even the biggest pest of them all, the dandelion, is loaded with vitamins C and A.
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. -- ., Tue, 05 May 2009, 18:26:30 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Sadly Patrick, one smart individual can create wonders as opposed to 19 idiots, but the Evil forces like democracy because they can control the majority by feeding them stupidity using the media.
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Huh- Wah Adolf -- Patrick, Tue, 05 May 2009, 17:37:31 (wbs-196-2-126-115.wbs.co.za/196.2.126.115)
Adolf shit, bollocks, crapface, arsewipe, dog fucker... Until I got your posts i never used to swear now I have Tourettes! What the fuck are you talking about twat nose?
P.s. the extent to which I like blacks, is that I am not stupid enough to think you can run a country outnumbered 20 to 1 without creating alliances. You dumb fuck.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 05 May 2009, 17:27:34 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
"Watcher in the rye" James and I have been aware for a long time that there is a another site, we have never received an invitation to join this site nor been informed about its location.
I suspect because one or two spiteful and jealous individuals have lobbied for this to be done.
However as I have plenty of other sites to contribute to such as RSA Overseas where I have made fantastic good friends, resulting in great overseas meetings and get together's, I would not have much time for it.
I doubt if there is much incentive on my part to contribute to a site that has an exclusivity type situation about it anyway, and I do not speak for James but I feel he would agree.
So to misquote Groucho I would not be seen dead at a site that would have such a person as me...
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Hau. -- Nellie, Tue, 05 May 2009, 14:37:24 (124-169-209-188.dyn.iinet.net.au/124.169.209.188)
B, tears et al,
James,
Hank is not Scripsi, Hank may pull your chain now and again, but he does not hide behind bushes, unless he has big GM with him. Do you guys remember this piece written by the Chap.?
So_fari so good?,
Life in Lalapanzi was exhilarating for Dr.Feelgood for a few days, as the strain of high corporate life and mingling with stars and the hustle and bustle of life in Los Anglos began to fade.
He was delirious with excitement, the hunting was better than expected; he was shooting huge bags of kaffir chickens, and was burning the candle at both ends, drinking and cavorting with the locals in their compound behind the pub, much to their amusement.
Dr.Feelgood was developing a taste for kaffir beer, drinking it by the bucket full with wanton abandonment.
The shit hit the fan on third day, which started out much as the previous two days, the Doc would pick himself up off the ground from one of the cooking fires in the compound, and head back to his tent, under the doringboom ,dust himself down, and commenced dressing for his daily ritual of hunting.
It was mid afternoon when Dr.Feelgood arrived back at his camp, empty handed from his hunting trip; apparently there was not a chicken to be found. Unbeknown to the Doc, the locals had hidden their chickens, cows and goats, concerned that he would wipe out the lot.
He was so disgruntled that he decided to drown his sorrows, and headed off to the compound, only to find they had no kaffir beer left. As a last resort he went to the pub, and found out that the Publican had put his prices up three fold, refusing to pay the higher prices on principle he returned to his tent.
Ripping the flap of his tent open he entered inside, and couldn’t believe his eyes, a few of his hot n tot porters had been helping themselves to quantities of his herbal muties, leaving the confines of his hot and steamy tent in a mess.
After having calmed down, he was sitting outside his tent pulling out black jack seeds from his socks, when a few ideas flashed through his mind. The first thought would be to write to his old friend and mentor James Sleeze,to join his expedition, and had the expertise to run a pub, after having spent time working as a barman in Northern Rhodesia in the old days, this way they could start their own establishment and drive the bloody rooineck out of business.
In the meantime he would gather his entourage together, and make his way to self proclaimed mlunga and moffie basher Bushman Pete’s camp in the bush, but this proved more difficult than he anticipated, because half the hot n tots had pissed off during the night to some hoolie called ZAPU, one other had been abducted by baboons, and his head boy had got so pissed one night, he wondered off into the sticks, and never returned.
That night as Dr.Feelgood was loading his guns with silver bullets dipped in garlic, and planning his eminent trek in the morning, even though it would be a struggle, still worth the hardships he had to endure, to find the elusive Zimbabwe bird. After all, the signs were in his favour; here he was in this harsh land called Zimbabwe, the stamp on his passport proved that.
He finished what he was doing, rubbed several different creams on his body, put his nightcap on, rolled over into a foetal position slipped his hand into his silk pyjama pants and held his cods, then fell into a dead sleep, with both eyes open.
Cheers.
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the other side?? -- watcher in the rye, Tue, 05 May 2009, 1:43:29 (h143.34.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/174.131.34.143)
You two.......
Hank is not Scripsi(e), nor the 'udder brudder' nor anyone else you may care to label him. He posts under his own name and is always very welcome to frequent the "other side".
I notice that neither of have been invited to the 'other side', or possibly, you just 'declined the invitation'.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 04 May 2009, 18:46:50 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
I guess it is like wearing a mask at a masquerade, James, no confidence in your own looks.
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Brutum fulmen, Scripsie... -- James, Mon, 04 May 2009, 15:50:50 (21Cust177.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.177)
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RAY: With all these attempts to take on a new identity,
I reckon that the Wanker aka Scripsie etc. must actually be a nonentity. I wonder what he thinks he is achieving by trying to pretend he's someone other than he is? Of course, maybe the Voss Inn in Bozeman doesn't keep him busy enough. Maybe we could help him get a real job...
shovelling elephant dung might be ideal! But then wanking Scripsie is, in final anlysis, brutum fulmen...
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. -- Ray, Mon, 04 May 2009, 14:57:56 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Sadly to say, James, Hank aka Scripsi aka Wanker is on the other site.
Weeds grow everywhere you cannot stop 'em.
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JEMSIE -- Scripsi, Mon, 04 May 2009, 4:45:23 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
Perfect description of your sire's performance!
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Salaputium... -- Jems, Mon, 04 May 2009, 4:28:10 (21Cust161.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.161)
Salaputium disertum, Scripsi...
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JEMSIE -- SCRIPSI, Mon, 04 May 2009, 4:13:55 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Jems, Jems, It's SCRIPSI, not SCRIPSIE! It's Latin, ijit,
but then you wouldn't know, would you. Try Babel and learn
something. Ektually, I've been on the other site for quite some time ... It's very pleasant without boastful
anal orifices like 'Ello Vera Ray and a looland scooter
like you sucking up to him.
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Stewing and snarling... -- James, Sun, 03 May 2009, 16:52:17 (21Cust177.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.177)
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SCRIPSIE. This honorary Boer ain't alone... Just as long as
Hank the Wank is hanking around BT, I never feel alone and forgotten.
And in any case, I bet that YOU haven't been invited to join the 'nice' Rhodesian site... Like Hanky, I am sure that you been left to stew and snarl here.
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Piglet and Pooh -- Pam, Sat, 02 May 2009, 13:32:48 (d141-156-104.home.cgocable.net/24.141.156.104)
Pooh and Piglet are walking through the snow back home.
Piglet thinks, "I'm lucky to have a friend like Pooh"
Pooh thinks, "If that pig sneezes, he's dead"
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Swine Flu -- Pam (From Ray), Sat, 02 May 2009, 13:31:35 (d141-156-104.home.cgocable.net/24.141.156.104)
I had a little Pig with wings,
Its name was Enza,
I opened the window,
And in-flew-enza.
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Swine floozie -- scripsi's uncle, Sat, 02 May 2009, 5:58:52 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
Japie Ray! Japie Ray! Please contact WHO and tell them
about your Aloe Vera cure for Sweenie Floozie. We all
know your silence is motivated by extreme modesty but we
implore you to shed your self-deprecating attitude, to tell the world about your sports exploits, and save us all from Miss Piggy. (If at first your tries fail, try try again.)
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Killed by a Japie and his lapdog -- scripsi (doobydoo@ray.com), Sat, 02 May 2009, 5:15:30 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
The Dutchman and the wannabee Dutchman are all alone ...
shame ....
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Scanner scanned -- James, Wed, 29 Apr 2009, 23:24:52 (21Cust49.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.49)
BUSH BAPTIST: Many thanks for the advice re the Epson scanner. I will give your suggestion a try. I really appreciate the help.
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MTN -- maggi, Wed, 29 Apr 2009, 22:38:58 (ppp121-44-84-51.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.84.51)
MTN signals it is keen to get into Zimbabwe
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MTN has confirmed that it is eager to enter Zimbabwe, and may make its move by taking control of the existing mobile operator, Telecel.
Africa’s cellular giant has taken the unusual step of declaring its interest ahead of firming up any precise moves by exhibiting at the Zimbabwe International Trade Fair in Bulawayo this week.
Spokeswoman Nozipho January Bardill said yesterday plans were still preliminary, but operating in Zimbabwe was definitely high on the agenda.
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Business/7844.html
Here we are a country in dire needs of food, medicine, teaching, doctors, and MTN want to take over and existing mobile phone company or what ever, I geuss in the end money speaks louder than what the people really need, all the above and most of all stability. m
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scanner problems -- Bush Baptist, Wed, 29 Apr 2009, 7:01:10 (mail.kimberleytimes.com.au/202.41.193.62)
James, if your scanner is anything like the Epsom Canoscan 2580, that has a small 35mm film loader in the lid, you need to remove the white plastic cover attached to the underside of the lid for the scanner light to get to the negs and slides. Hope this helps.
Hang on to the originals... -- James, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 16:12:07 (21Cust104.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.104)
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WENS. Even if you manage to get the slides on to your computer machine, I would hang on to the slides; it seems to me that computers tend to eat items like that. I have an Epsom Perfection 1260 scanner and it came with a gadget which is supposed to allow one to get copies of slides into the computer... All it does for me is scan in a copy of the actual gadget!
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. -- ., Tue, 28 Apr 2009, 5:42:17 (adsl-75-56-204-40.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.204.40)
snarlfests
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What traditions ???? -- Tickled Pink, Tue, 28 Apr 2009, 3:12:29 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
What BT traditions?
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SWINE FLU -- Ray, Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 16:06:52 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
I had a little Pig with wings,
Its name was Enza,
I opened the window,
And in-flew-enza.
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Contact details -- Mike Schmolke, Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 11:12:26 (NoHost/41.211.3.241)
Malcolm (MOLLY) Brown; any contact details to mikeschmolke@gmail .com
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Ken -- Adolf, Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 4:25:48 (access.newcrest.com.au/203.7.175.1)
You need a lot of help of in so many ways, never will I put down the intellectually challenged, from me to you goodbye.
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Ken -- Adolfool, Sun, 26 Apr 2009, 12:27:10 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Adolf you wannabee white fellow, if you are going to try and pretend you are a Rhodie or a South African, learn to talk like one, then use the English language as it was intended to be written, not that gibberish Indonesian pigeon crap you scribe.
Now be a good little munt and tend your goats or whatever you do with them you little brown monyet.
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Golf -- Jo Pete, Sun, 26 Apr 2009, 9:53:53 (vc-41-31-210-78.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.31.210.78)
Yo BT. In no way do I insinuate that daveC is a bullshitter. Rather for 25yrs he paid my school a compliment.
I left Chaplin in '67. I used to play with the Guinea fowl okes on their Monday outings to the golf couse. Guinea Fowl master John Drinkwater organised the outings.
Guines Fowl produced some good golfers in my time.
Graham Van Der Veen who came from Shabani and played off scratch at 16. I caddied for him when he won the Natal Amature. He turned pro, didn't make it and got reinstated as an amature.
Richie (Bush Pig) Hill from Byo. He played off low single figures as a schoolboy. He became a teacher and I believe that he is somewhere in Jhb.
Ivor Hill who played close to scratch at Guyinea Fowl. He was from Shabani and is now a specialist doctor in Stellenbosch last bI heard.
These guys remind me much of the many happy days I spent on Gwelo Golf Course, of which my father was captain for quite a while. We lived right opposite the 10th green. It was a half wedge from our front garden. Our family mongrel, Buckshot, used to hide in the bush next to the green, run out and grab any golf balls that landed on the green. This caused quite a bit of kak.
Some of you will have read of my escapades on the other side yesterday when the car burst into flames and left the road across the oncoming carriageway at speed en route to Durban. My women & me are all OK after this.
Richie (BushPig) Hill who pla
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Voet Sek Bob -- Adolf, Sun, 26 Apr 2009, 7:26:38 (access.newcrest.com.au/203.7.175.1)
Most of us would sooner give 50 minutes of our time watching Slow Pete and Patrick doing the Zanu PF cockerel jive duo distasteful as it is, rather than listening to Topical Discussions we have noting in common with.
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Any Questions? Jonathan Dimbleby chairs the topical debate from Cookham, Berkshire. -- Bob, Sun, 26 Apr 2009, 6:50:44 (NoHost/218.185.83.33)
Topical discussion in which a panel of personalities from the worlds of politics, media and elsewhere are posed questions by the audience. From a different location each week
Listen (Duration: 50 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qgvj
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Working for Margaret -- Bob, Sun, 26 Apr 2009, 5:52:23 (NoHost/218.185.83.33)
Matthew Parris, who worked for Margaret Thatcher before becoming a political journalist, delves into the Brook Lapping archive to hear from some of her former staff, ministers, civil servants, speechwriters and advisors about what she was like to work for.
Was she any gentler with her staff than she was with her Cabinet colleagues? Matthew finds out about the Margaret Thatcher that only her closest circle saw.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jwqlg/Archive_on_4_Working_for_Margaret/
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Patrick -- Adolf, Sun, 26 Apr 2009, 3:37:34 (access.newcrest.com.au/203.7.175.1)
Bob posted the article once you brainless kaffir boetie, you are not even at the half wit level, just a standard munt loving fuckwit.
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Adolfool -- Ken Tisman, Sun, 26 Apr 2009, 2:58:16 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Adolf aka: Chiru, Bob posted that twice for your benefit you half witted gook.
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Bob -- Adolf, Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 23:42:18 (access.newcrest.com.au/203.7.175.1)
Bob that not the news flash is a month old, Slow Pete posted his condolences on BT to Morgan and RIP to Susan, why Shawn never got a mention since from Pete is anyone’s guess, post next months news or give it away.
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Morgan Tsvangirai on his personal grief and his hopes for Zimbabwe -- Bob, Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 12:33:39 (NoHost/218.185.83.33)
Morgan Tsvangirai is sitting in the converted maid's quarters that serves as his office, at his home in the Harare suburbs. It overlooks the garden with the pool where his two-year-old grandson Shawn drowned a fortnight ago, only a month after his wife Susan was killed in a car crash.
In his first interview since the double tragedy, he describes the depths of his grief and pays a touching tribute to his wife of 31 years. "I don't know how to replace her," he says. "It's almost unimaginable that anyone could ever take her place, with the same qualities and the same love and care." The deep voice cracks as he struggles to hold back tears. "Susan and I were married for 31 years. As you can imagine, that made her almost a lifelong companion. She was humble. Not very pretentious at all."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/19/morgan-tsvangirai-zimbabwe-susan
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'fricagets in your bones' -- James, Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 4:16:41 (21Cust188.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.188)
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DAVE C. Who said "Africa gets in your bones"? I think it was either Cecil Rhodes or Rider Haggard.
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Rhodesia -- DaveC, Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 1:09:29 (host86-136-49-37.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.49.37)
We lived in the greatest country at one stage and that still sticks to my heart and it always will. Rhodesia molded me and no one can take that away, although some will try.
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Hank -- DaveC, Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 0:08:32 (host86-136-49-37.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.49.37)
Hank or Hanks other brother, I don't know which is which but what about you, are you a good guy?
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Our own wee wanker... -- James, Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 23:26:56 (21Cust223.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.223)
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BT's own wee Bozeman wanker has a brother? Crikey! And I thought he was one of a kind. I was inclined to the belief that they threw him away at birth and kept the afterbirth.
Everyone loves you!
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0>0 -- Hank's other brother Hank, Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 21:48:03 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Barman, make it a rattlesnake, I like the good stuff!
DaveC, you sure those were cigarettes that you smoked on that sad golf course???
You're 100% right about a rugby match between one's school and their greatest rival, invariably another right in the same town, being far more intense and enjoyable than some international game.
Jo Pete, are you saying that the gentleman in question was a bullshitter of note?
I never realised the moving film camera was already around in the 1840s. On his next 80th birthday Mr Ray Bobsey will be 67. Mr Bobsey will be remembered for coming out of retirement in September 2018 to captain the Belmunt Sure in their historic 3-0 defeat of Dublin English. Mr Bobsey would later go on to cure AIDS and reverse global warming by teaching the world's population to breathe carbon dioxide in and exhale oxygen and vitamin C.
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Jo Pete -- DaveC, Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 20:35:28 (host86-136-49-37.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.49.37)
I am trying to figure out what gave me the impression for over 25 yrs that N Price came from Chaplin.
Once a week (think it was Mondays) we could get into civvies and play golf in Gwelo. So my ambitious mates and myself used to play one or two holes then jump into the bush and chain smoke.
I have memories of Nick Prices name being mentioned in the club house, a guy getting fantastic scores. At the time I had no interest in the game although I love it now, that is age.
The rivalry between Chaplin and Guinea Fowl was fantastic. Now days when I watch South African sport there are moments of euphoria but nothing compared to the thrills of watching GF playing Chaplin.
Go well china
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. -- ray, Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 19:07:55 (adsl-75-56-204-40.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.204.40)
Bob and Adolf keepin up the BT traditions I see.
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Golfers -- Jo Pete, Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 14:40:04 (vc-41-17-105-222.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.17.105.222)
Yo BT. Coincidentally MacNulty's mother Moira was also a Price. 2nd time round she married Vernon Price, Centenary farmer, Bisley shottist of note, racconteur par excellence.
Mark's father was a Centenary farmer and left Mark the farm when the father died.
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Tony Johnstone -- Jo Pete, Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 8:08:20 (vc-41-14-41-230.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.14.41.230)
Yo BT. Tony Johnstone is a Bulawayo boy, Milton I think.
I played junior golf against him.
He became a great mate of Rodney Scchmulian, nephew of Pat, brother of my great schoolmate Mike, son of the family dentist in Gwelo. Our families were close.
Rodney was also boeties business partner in Cape Town.In 1984 Tony had a purple patch on the Sunshine Tour, winning 4 tournaments on the trot, 5 in total including the SA Open.
He was hosted by Rodney. I was in Cape Town on holiday at the time so had quite a bit to do with Tony. Character and party animal from hell. Normally still pissed on the 1st Tee.
His sister was also the pomp of workmate Gavin Brown at Durban City Engineers in the 70's. Rather volatile lady, as Tony could be.
Tony's folks owned a stationary business ion Bulawayo.
That's what I know about Tony.
Also Mike Schmulian and I gave him and partner Lex Lucas a sound thrashing in a junior Filande at Gwelo Golf Club in the better ball.
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Bogus Bob -- Adolf, Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 0:23:13 (access.newcrest.com.au/203.7.175.1)
Patrick who suffers with tourettes syndrome, posts while having fits under various aka’s to try and hide the fact he is a known and disliked ANC and Zanu PF staunch supporter / Kaffir lover.
Patrick you are a munt in a white skin, a total disgrace to your race, voetsek back to the Beer Hall with the rest of the mealie heads, you pathetic piece of shit.
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Howzit BT -- John W, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 23:04:29 (adlgw1.baulderstone.com.au/203.37.164.2)
As per normal, ZZLLPDRCJouMoerPiet is correct.
Yawn.
Tim Price and Nick Price were PE Boys, as was Mark McNulty.
Where was Tony Johnstone schooled?
Geez, last week, I took a complete hiding on my tips for the Rugby and the F1 was also a disaster !
I'm off now to place my tips for this week.
TTFN
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Nick -- Jo Pete, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 18:21:53 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
Yo BT. daveC much as I hate to admit it Nick Price was not a Chaplin boy. Pretty sure he & his boet,Tim, went to PE
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adolf -- Bob, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 15:27:43 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
adolf I retract part of my last posting,you are not a twat,a twat is useful but you can still fuck off.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 14:58:57 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
And without white sugar.
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adolf -- Bob, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 14:58:13 (mail152.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.152)
Adolf you twat, why don’t you fuck off back to Indonesia and make a few car bombs and take a few of your idle brain mates with you.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 14:56:12 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Reporter, Rian has a good brain on his head but he is not a biochemical nutritionist.
Anyone who has a properly functional immune system not destroyed by white sugar and ultra-refined foods has nothing to fear from pathogens.
Once again let me emphasize a basic biochemical fact and you would do good to write this greek out ten time until it sinks into your head.
White blood cells destroy pathogens by engulfing them and digesting them with hydrogen peroxide. They cannot make peroxide if the body has no C. Glucose destroys this capability.
That is the normal natural way bodies function and has survived for millions of years this way, not with anti-biotics and anti-retrovirals and all that crap.
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sa elections -- maggi, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 11:34:54 (ppp121-44-142-122.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.142.122)
so seems the ANC are in the lead ?
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Bob -- Adolf, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 9:36:05 (access.newcrest.com.au/203.7.175.1)
Bob it’s time to look into Dr Philip Nitschke and what he can do for you, if cost is an issue, let me know and I will shell you the coin.
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Bruce Grobbelaar -- Lore, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 9:16:59 (NoHost/92.23.216.160)
'I miss my wife': Hell's Kitchen favourite Bruce Grobbelaar stuns Marco Pierre White by quitting.
For those that may be interested -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1172725/I-miss-wife-Hells-Kitchen-favourite-Bruce-Grobbelaar-stuns-Marco-Pierre-White-quitting.html
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Don't forget tonight! -- Bob, Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 6:43:50 (NoHost/218.185.83.33)
P.J. will be on Q&A, you still have time to submit your question!
Next Program's panellists
Julie Bishop - deputy opposition leader
Craig Emerson - Minister for Small Business
P.J. O'Rourke - author and satirist
David Marr - journalist
Dr Cindy Pan - doctor and author
WATCH A LIVE STREAM HERE, 9.30pm Thursday AEST.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/
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malan -- maggi, Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 12:04:14 (ppp121-44-142-122.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.142.122)
Reporter: Yep his report is sort of middle of the road, one of the saddest things I ever saw was a 16 year old girl who came in with kaposi carcoma, she died a week later. I have no bloody time for anyone who denies this virus existance, all it does in the end is leave you with a miserable, degrading life, no immunity to colds, 'flu, never mind other diseases such as pneumonia, TB etc. It is a mean, horrid existance and I truly feel for those who contract. Ah but in the words of JZ, he washed it away because he took a shower...
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Tickled Pink -- Nando's, Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 8:26:24 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Aq042KPSg&feature=channel_page
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Rian Malan is right ; Fay Ray is not -- Reporter, Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 1:39:53 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)
Fay Ray - Rian Malan is exactly right - he takes the middle ground , unlike you who claims AIDS deaths are due to TB and pneumonia . That is fantasy land . Who the f*** gets TB and pneumonia in California ? Thats how Rock Hudson died? Let us know when your IQ hits 100 ok ??
Here's what Rian said , so be clear .. "Please don’t get me wrong here. I believe that Aids is a real problem in Africa. Governments and sober medical professionals should be heeded when they express deep concerns about it. But there are breeds of Aids activist and Aids journalist who sound hysterical to me. "
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Insomniac -- James, Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 0:45:35 (21Cust202.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.202)
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RAY: My pal from Corona del M - you were in his house briefly when I was down - is an insomniac. He's making what I think is a mistake in gobbling tablets to sleep and tablets to wake up. I just wondered if you had any brief suggestions re some suitable herbs or etc. (If you think
it would simplify matters, please just e.mail me directly).
Aye, James.
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. -- ray, Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 0:18:25 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
DaveC the article was written by writer Rian Malan.
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Slides -- maggi, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 22:21:38 (ppp121-44-142-122.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.142.122)
wens, great nostalgic trip re your slides - some years back we purchased a scanner with a slide attachment Hewlett Packard (!!) and although it was fun going through boxes of slides of my in-laws days in Ndola, not as good as having it done professionally. Enjoy.....
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Bruce Grobbelar -- DaveC, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 22:12:12 (host86-136-49-37.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.49.37)
There is presently a program on UK TV called Masterchef where there are celebreties working in a restaurant kitchen under a michelan chef.One of the tasks was to produce a meal from their growing up period and Bruce Grobbelar produced sudza, chicken feet and sauce. He was very emotional about it as it was what his houseboy used to cook for him and was a father figure to himself. He did get the best rating which pleased me to bits, a michelan star chef enjoying sudza!!
Ray, your posting about AIDS (amongst others) I found very interesting.
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Cabin fever? -- James, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 20:53:14 (21Cust21.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.21)
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OBSERVER: Yes, the poor Boseman, Montana creatures must really get cabin fever over the lengthy and vicious winters! But it's great to see that our own pet wee Wanker has survived. We all love you Hank! Have a nice day y'all.
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. -- Observer, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 20:50:43 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
James oops
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. -- observer, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 20:46:10 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Janes it must be thawing in Bozeman the groundhogs are chirpin..
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not surpising. -- henry, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 20:12:21 (host-69-144-201-162.static.bresnan.net/69.144.201.162)
Poor wee fella.
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Hang on to the originals... -- James, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 16:12:07 (21Cust104.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.104)
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WENS. Even if you manage to get the slides on to your computer machine, I would hang on to the slides; it seems to me that computers tend to eat items like that. I have an Epsom Perfection 1260 scanner and it came with a gadget which is supposed to allow one to get copies of slides into the computer... All it does for me is scan in a copy of the actual gadget!
I paid a photographic house to transfer to DVD some 8mm film my Dad took back in NR and SR the late 1940s. The results were excellent (Kodak film). Biggest complaint, however, is that because he was the cameraman, there are no pictures of my Dad.
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Slides -- Oom Dawie, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 13:33:31 (h145.43.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/174.131.43.145)
Hey Wens
agree with Lore , although I purchased a CanoScan 4400F for about $80.00.
You can scan all your slides and touch up the faded ones. Kodacolor was very faded. Fuji not bad but Agfacolor was always the best.
I also took some 8 mm Cine to a local guy here in US who put them on to CD in a matter of minutes.
Have fun
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Slides -- Wens, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 11:04:24 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Thanks all so much for your advice and I will most definatley follow the well given advice. I have over 400 slides and only have a Lexmark scanner at home which I have tried but to no luck. The Kenya slides were taken during the Mau Mau war so they are really special to me. On top of that I have found old 16mm (I think) andd 8mm cine films and would love to know what is on them.
Once again many thanks
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Re Scanning slides. -- Lore, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 9:48:55 (host-92-0-220-3.as43234.net/92.0.220.3)
I recently scanned well over a thousand slides. I had a really good look about and settled on a superb machine, the CanoScan 8800F Film Scanner for £123 from Amazon.
It comes with a powerful image editing software.
Drawbacks are that it is a very laborious and time consuming task, as the machine can scan only four at a time.
I was also too lazy to purchase a blow-brush, so I tended to have rather a lot of dust. I also couldn’t be bothered naming the pics, so have landed up with a nightmare of various folders contain images scanned on different days having the same numbers. But these are problems that can, with patience, be sorted out.
I also noticed that the quality varied a lot between the films that I had used. Fuji-color seemed to have held its richness well, whereby Kodak was becoming faded.
Of course, if you do not have that many slides, it is perhaps not worth lashing out the amount, but, the machine is also a first rate scanner for pictures and documents. And, you will easily recoup at least half of the money by immediately selling it on Ebay. I sold mine on to friends, even leaving the folia covers on, so it was still brand you.
Some of the results can be seen on my blog
www.lastrhodesian.blogspot.com
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Wens -- Barbara, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 9:21:48 (CPE-121-210-243-80.qld.bigpond.net.au/121.210.243.80)
Wens, I had all my slides from the sixties put on a CD - Kodak did it for me but look around... look in your local yellow pages. Lots of companies do it.
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Wens -- roger, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 8:39:04 (222-152-186-141.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.152.186.141)
Wens,
If you are in Johannesburg there were three companies, Beith Process, Kiley Baker or City Graphics.
If you get stuck I can give you a current contact.
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Wens -- roger, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 8:35:15 (222-152-186-141.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.152.186.141)
Wens,
You need to find a company that can scan slides, try your local photo shops, but there is a method where you can actually get better results off slides as they are duplicate film and record exactly what is seen through the lens, as opposed to prints from negatives that are second generation images that are subject to the quality of the photo shops and their equipment. But you do need a company with a good scanner. The slides are small and as such will have a certain amount of deterioration, but with a bit of PhotoShop work they can be outstanding.
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* -- Wens, Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 7:30:58 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
My late father left me a whole lot of slides from Rhodesia and Kenya and I would like to ask if anyone out there knows how I can download/put these on to my computer?
Thanks
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frenchies -- maggi, Mon, 20 Apr 2009, 21:37:26 (ppp121-44-142-122.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.142.122)
watcher - :)
mind you I am talking a good few year back when the family were there, some living there as well.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 20 Apr 2009, 21:22:52 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Jimbo, 40 year old ex-Brumby Craig (Wellsley) seems to be doin' good on my superman formula, he might make it to the world cup yet...Pati doesn't listen to me.
"Belmont Shore put the final nail in the coffin of Old Puget Sound Beach’s season with a 48-10 victory at home. Leading 24-10 at halftime, Belmont powered ahead to keep their opposition scoreless in the second half and return to the top of the Red Conference Standings.
Center Craig Wells continued his good form from the second half of last week’s match to score twice while winger Sinipati Uiagalelei once again grabbed two tries to remain on top of the top try scorers list."
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. -- Ray, Mon, 20 Apr 2009, 15:53:38 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Sorry for the long posting of Rians article, but anybody who believes in a global threat of AIDS, should read it very carefully and if it disappoints you, can can always do global warming mania.
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frenchies -- watcher in the rye, Mon, 20 Apr 2009, 13:36:12 (h145.43.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/174.131.43.145)
Maggi
they also run a lot...particularly when trouble's a brewing.
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Fat Frenchies -- RyeStoned Cowboy, Mon, 20 Apr 2009, 2:04:59 (host81-158-217-227.range81-158.btcentralplus.com/81.158.217.227)
In the 2 years I lived in Dover with the odd skirmishes to Calais etc - I saw plenty examples of fat french men and women and kids.
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the french -- maggi, Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 22:20:19 (ppp121-44-142-122.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.142.122)
in the 2 weeks I was in Paris, I never heard or saw fat Frenchman, yet they consume coffee, croissants, cheese, bread, wine etc by the gallon load, what I did notice and it should make us all feel very ashamed, they walk an awful lot, everywhere.
Reporter, et al you can reargue the AIDS story till you go puce, but never get a sensible answer.. actually in the end all it takes is a shower to wash it all away :)
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. -- Ray, Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 20:03:17 (nv-71-52-51-205.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/71.52.51.205)
Reporter, my answer I shall repeat also.
The answer is NO to BOTH of your questions.
There is actually very little vitamin C in the roots. One pound of the leaves contains 120 mg of vitamin C.
I would say eat the leaves instead.
1. Nobody is really dying of AIDS.
2. They are dying of tuberculosis and pneumonia.
When people die of tuberculosis and pneumonia some doctors might claim they died of AIDS but not so.
I have posted this before I will post it again.
Rian Malan:
It was the eve of Aids Day here. Rock stars like Bono and Bob Geldof were jetting in for a fundraising concert with Nelson Mandela, and the airwaves were full of dark talk about megadeath and the armies of feral orphans who would surely ransack South Africa’s cities in 2017 unless funds were made available to take care of them. My neighbour came up the garden path with a press cutting. ‘Read this,’ said Capt. David Price, ex-Royal Air Force flyboy. ‘Bloody awful.’
It was an article from The Spectator describing the bizarre sex practices that contribute to HIV’s rampage across the continent. ‘One in five of us here in Zambia is HIV positive,’ said the report. ‘In 1993 our neighbour Botswana had an estimated population of 1.4 million. Today that figure is under a million and heading downwards. Doom merchants predict that Botswana may soon become the first nation in modern times literally to die out. This is Aids in Africa.’
Really? Botswana has just concluded a census that shows population growing at about 2.7 per cent a year, in spite of what is usually described as the worst Aids problem on the planet. Total population has risen to 1.7 million in just a decade. If anything, Botswana is experiencing a minor population explosion.
There is similar bad news for the doomsayers in Tanzania’s new census, which shows population growing at 2.9 per cent a year. Professional pessimists will be particularly discomforted by developments in the swamplands west of Lake Victoria, where HIV first emerged, and where the depopulated villages of popular mythology are supposedly located. Here, in the district of Kagera, population grew at 2.7 per cent a year before 1988, only to accelerate to 3.1 per cent even as the Aids epidemic was supposedly peaking. Uganda’s latest census tells a broadly similar story, as does South Africa’s.
Some might think it good news that the impact of Aids is less devastating than most laymen imagine, but they are wrong. In Africa, the only good news about Aids is bad news, and anyone who tells you otherwise is branded a moral leper, bent on sowing confusion and derailing 100,000 worthy fundraising drives. I know this, because several years ago I acquired what was generally regarded as a leprous obsession with the dumbfounding Aids numbers in my daily papers. They told me that Aids had claimed 250,000 South African lives in 1999, and I kept saying, this can’t possibly be true. What followed was very ugly — ruined dinner parties, broken friendships, ridicule from those who knew better, bitter fights with my wife. After a year or so, she put her foot down. Choose, she said. Aids or me. So I dropped the subject, put my papers in the garage, and kept my mouth shut.
As I write, madam is standing behind me with hands on hips, hugely irked by this reversion to bad habits. But looking around, it seems to me that Aids fever is nearing the danger level, and that some calming thoughts are called for. Bear with me while I explain.
We all know, thanks to Mark Twain, that statistics are often the lowest form of lie, but when it comes to HIV/Aids, we suspend all scepticism. Why? Aids is the most political disease ever. We have been fighting about it since the day it was identified. The key battleground is public perception, and the most deadly weapon is the estimate. When the virus first emerged, I was living in America, where HIV incidence was estimated to be doubling every year or so. Every time I turned on the TV, Madonna popped up to warn me that ‘Aids is an equal-opportunity killer’, poised to break out of the drug and gay subcultures and slaughter heterosexuals. In 1985, a science journal estimated that 1.7 million Americans were already infected, with ‘three to five million’ soon likely to follow suit. Oprah Winfrey told the nation that by 1990 ‘one in five heterosexuals will be dead of Aids’.
We now know that these estimates were vastly and indeed deliberately exaggerated, but they achieved the desired end: Aids was catapulted to the top of the West’s spending agenda, and the estimators turned their attention elsewhere. India’s epidemic was likened to ‘a volcano waiting to explode’. Africa faced ‘a tidal wave of death’. By 1992 they were estimating that ‘Aids could clear the whole planet’.
Who were they, these estimators? For the most part, they worked in Geneva for WHO or UNAIDS, using a computer simulator called Epimodel. Every year, all over Africa, blood would be taken from a small sample of pregnant women and screened for signs of HIV infection. The results would be programmed into Epimodel, which transmuted them into estimates. If so many women were infected, it followed that a similar proportion of their husbands and lovers must be infected, too. These numbers would be extrapolated out into the general population, enabling the computer modellers to arrive at seemingly precise tallies of the doomed, the dying and the orphans left behind.
Because Africa is disorganised and, in some parts, unknowable, we had little choice other than to accept these projections. (‘We’ always expect the worst of Africa anyway.) Reporting on Aids in Africa became a quest for anecdotes to support Geneva’s estimates, and the estimates grew ever more terrible: 9.6 million cumulative Aids deaths by 1997, rising to 17 million three years later.
Or so we were told. When I visited the worst affected parts of Tanzania and Uganda in 2001, I was overwhelmed with stories about the horrors of what locals called ‘Slims’, but statistical corroboration was hard to come by. According to government census bureaux, death rates in these areas had been in decline since the second world war. Aids-era mortality studies yielded some of the lowest overall death rates ever measured. Populations seemed to have exploded even as the epidemic was peaking.
Ask Aids experts about this, and they say, this is Africa, chaos reigns, the historical data is too uncertain to make valid comparisons. But these same experts will tell you that South Africa is vastly different: ‘The only country in sub-Saharan Africa where sufficient deaths are routinely registered to attempt to produce national estimates of mortality,’ says Professor Ian Timaeus of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. According to Timaeus, upwards of 80 per cent of deaths are registered here, which makes us unique: the only corner of Africa where it is possible to judge computer-generated Aids estimates against objective reality.
In the year 2000, Timaeus joined a team of South African researchers bent on eliminating all doubts about the magnitude of Aids’ impact on South African mortality. Sponsored by the Medical Research Council, the team’s mission was to validate (for the first time ever) the output of Aids computer models against actual death registration in an African setting. Towards this end, the MRC team was granted privileged access to death reports as they streamed into Pretoria. The first results became available in 2001, and they ran thus: 339,000 adult deaths in 1998, 375,000 in 1999 and 410,000 in 2000.
This was grimly consistent with predictions of rising mortality, but the scale was problematic. Epimodel estimated 250,000 Aids deaths in 1999, but there were only 375,000 adult deaths in total that year — far too few to accommodate the UN’s claims on behalf of the HIV virus. In short, Epimodel had failed its reality check. It was quietly shelved in favour of a more sophisticated local model, ASSA 600, which yielded a ‘more realistic’ death toll from Aids of 143,000 for the calendar year 1999.
At this level, Aids deaths were about 40 per cent of the total — still a bit high, considering there were only 232,000 deaths left to distribute among all other causes. The MRC team solved the problem by stating that deaths from ordinary disease had declined at the cumulatively massive rate of nearly 3 per cent per annum since 1985. This seemed very odd. How could deaths decrease in the face of new cholera and malaria epidemics, mounting poverty, the widespread emergence of drug-resistant killer microbes, and a state health system reported to be in ‘terminal decline’?
But anyway, these researchers were experts, and their tinkering achieved the desired end: modelled Aids deaths and real deaths were reconciled, the books balanced, truth revealed. The fruit of the MRC’s ground-breaking labour was published in June 2001, and my hash appeared to have been settled. To be sure, I carped about curious adjustments and overall magnitude, but fell silent in the face of graphs showing huge changes in the pattern of death, with more and more people dying at sexually active ages. ‘How can you argue with this?’ cried my wife, eyes flashing angrily. I couldn’t. I put my Aids papers in the garage and ate my hat.
But I couldn’t help sneaking the odd look at science websites to see how the drama was developing. Towards the end of 2001, the vaunted ASSA 600 model was replaced by ASSA 2000, which produced estimates even lower than its predecessor: for the calendar year 1999, only 92,000 Aids deaths in total. This was just more than a third of the original UN figure, but no matter; the boffins claimed ASSA 2000 was so accurate that further reference to actual death reports ‘will be of limited usefulness’. A bit eerie, I thought, being told that virtual reality was about to render the real thing superfluous, but if these experts said the new model was infallible, it surely was infallible.
Only it wasn’t. Last December ASSA 2000 was retired, too. A note on the MRC website explained that modelling was an inexact science, and that ‘the number of people dying of Aids has only now started to increase’. Furthermore, said the MRC, there was a new model in the works, one that would ‘probably’ produce estimates ‘about 10 per cent lower’ than those presently on the table. The exercise was not strictly valid, but I persuaded my scientist pal Rodney Richards to run the revised data on his own simulator and see what he came up with for 1999. The answer, very crudely, was an Aids death toll somewhere around 65,000 — a far cry indeed from the 250,000 initially put forth by UNAIDS.
The wife has just read this, and she is not impressed. ‘It’s obscene,’ she says. ‘You’re treating this as if it’s just a computer game. People are dying out there.’
Well, yes. I concede that. People are dying, but this doesn’t spare us from the fact that Aids in Africa is indeed something of a computer game. When you read that 29.4 million Africans are ‘living with HIV/Aids’, it doesn’t mean that millions of living people have been tested. It means that modellers assume that 29.4 million Africans are linked via enormously complicated mathematical and sexual networks to one of those women who tested HIV positive in those annual pregnancy-clinic surveys. Modellers are the first to admit that this exercise is subject to uncertainties and large margins of error. Larger than expected, in some cases.
A year or so back, modellers produced estimates that portrayed South African universities as crucibles of rampant HIV infection, with one in four undergraduates doomed to die within ten years. Prevalence shifted according to racial composition and region, with Kwazulu-Natal institutions worst affected and Rand Afrikaans University (still 70 per cent white) coming in at 9.5 per cent. Real-life tests on a random sample of 1,188 RAU students rendered a startlingly different conclusion: on-campus prevalence was 1.1 per cent, barely a ninth of the modelled figure. ‘Doubt is cast on present estimates,’ said the RAU report, ‘and further research is strongly advocated.’
A similar anomaly emerged when South Africa’s major banks ran HIV tests on 29,000 staff earlier this year. A modelling exercise put HIV prevalence as high as 12 per cent; real-life tests produced a figure closer to 3 per cent. Elsewhere, actuaries are scratching their heads over a puzzling lack of interest in programs set up by medical-insurance companies to handle an anticipated flood of middle-class HIV cases. Old Mutual, the insurance giant, estimates that as many as 570,000 people are eligible, but only 22,500 have thus far signed up.
In Grahamstown, district surgeon Dr Stuart Dyer is contemplating an equally perplexing dearth of HIV cases in the local jail. ‘Sexually transmitted diseases are common in the prison where I work,’ he wrote to the Lancet, ‘and all prisoners who have any such disease are tested for HIV. Prisoners with any other illnesses that do not resolve rapidly (within one to two weeks) are also tested for HIV. As a result, a large number of HIV tests are done every week. This prison, which holds 550 inmates and is always full or overfull, has an HIV infection rate of 2 to 4 per cent and has had only two deaths from Aids in the seven years I have been working there.’ Dyer goes on to express a dim view of statistics that give the impression that ‘the whole of South Africa will be depopulated within 24 months’, and concludes by stating, ‘HIV infection in SA prisons is currently 2.3 per cent.’ According to the newspapers, it should be closer to 60 per cent.
On the face of it, these developments suggest that miracles are happening in South Africa, unreported by anyone save a brave little magazine called Noseweek. If the anomalies described above are typical, computer models are seriously overstating HIV prevalence. A similar picture emerges on the national level, where our estimated annual Aids death toll has halved since we eased UNAIDS out of the picture, with further reductions likely when the new MRC model appears. Could the same thing be happening in the rest of Africa?
Most estimates for countries north of the Limpopo are issued by UNAIDS, using methods similar to those discredited here in South Africa. According to Paul Bennell, a health- policy analyst associated with Sussex University’s Institute for Development Studies, there is an ‘extraordinary’ lack of evidence from other sources. ‘Most countries do not even collect data on deaths,’ he writes. ‘There is virtually no population-based survey data in most high-prevalence countries.’
Bennell was able, however, to gather information about Africa’s schoolteachers, usually described as a high-risk HIV group on account of their steady income, which enables them to drink and party more than others. Last year the World Bank claimed that Aids was killing Africa’s teachers ‘faster than they can be replaced’. The BBC reported that ‘one in seven’ Malawian teachers would die in 2002 alone.
Bennell looked at the available evidence and found actual teacher mortality to be ‘much lower than expected’. In Malawi, for instance, the all-causes death rate among schoolteachers was under 3 per cent, not over 14 per cent. In Botswana, it was about three times lower than computer-generated estimates. In Zimbabwe, it was four times lower. Bennell believes that Aids continues to present a serious threat to educators, but concludes that ‘overall impact will not be as catastrophic as suggested’. What’s more, teacher deaths appear to be declining in six of the eight countries he has studied closely. ‘This is quite unexpected,’ he remarks, ‘and suggests that, in terms of teacher deaths, the worst may be over.’
In the past year or so, similar mutterings have been heard throughout southern Africa — the epidemic is levelling off or even declining in the worst-affected countries. UNAIDS has been at great pains to rebut such ideas, describing them as ‘dangerous myths’, even though the data on UNAIDS’ own website shows they are nothing of the sort. ‘The epidemic is not growing in most countries,’ insists Bennell. ‘HIV prevalence is not increasing as is usually stated or implied.’
Bennell raises an interesting point here. Why would UNAIDS and its massive alliance of pharmaceutical companies, NGOs, scientists and charities insist that the epidemic is worsening if it isn’t? A possible explanation comes from New York physician Joe Sonnabend, one of the pioneers of Aids research. Sonnabend was working in a New York clap clinic when the syndrome first appeared, and went on to found the American Foundation for Aids Research, only to quit in protest when colleagues started exaggerating the threat of a generalised pandemic with a view to increasing Aids’ visibility and adding urgency to their grant applications. The Aids establishment, says Sonnabend, is extremely skilled at ‘the manipulation of fear for advancement in terms of money and power’.
With such thoughts in the back of my mind, South Africa’s Aids Day ‘celebrations’ cast me into a deeply leprous mood. Please don’t get me wrong here. I believe that Aids is a real problem in Africa. Governments and sober medical professionals should be heeded when they express deep concerns about it. But there are breeds of Aids activist and Aids journalist who sound hysterical to me. On Aids Day, they came forth like loonies drawn by a full moon, chanting that Aids was getting worse and worse, ‘spinning out of control’, crippling economies, causing famines, killing millions, contributing to the oppression of women, and ‘undermining democracy’ by sapping the will of the poor to resist dictators.
To hear them talk, Aids is the only problem in Africa, and the only solution is to continue the agitprop until free access to Aids drugs is defined as a ‘basic human right’ for everyone. They are saying, in effect, that because Mr Mhlangu of rural Zambia has a disease they find more compelling than any other, someone must spend upwards of $400 a year to provide Mr Mhlangu with life-extending Aids medication — a noble idea, on its face, but completely demented when you consider that Mr Mhlangu’s neighbours are likely to be dying in much larger numbers of diseases that could be cured for a few cents if medicines were only available. About 350 million Africans — nearly half the population — get malaria every year, but malaria medication is not a basic human right. Two million get TB, but last time I checked, spending on Aids research exceeded spending on TB by a crushing factor of 90 to one. As for pneumonia, cancer, dysentery or diabetes, let them take aspirin, or grub in the bush for medicinal herbs.
I think it is time to start questioning some of the claims made by the Aids lobby. Their certainties are so fanatical, the powers they claim so far-reaching. Their authority is ultimately derived from computer-generated estimates, which they wield like weapons, overwhelming any resistance with dumbfounding atom bombs of hypothetical human misery. Give them their head, and they will commandeer all resources to fight just one disease. Who knows, they may defeat Aids, but what if we wake up five years hence to discover that the problem has been blown up out of all proportion by unsound estimates, causing upwards of $20 billion to be wasted?
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French -- RyeStoned Cowboy, Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 19:26:50 (host81-158-217-227.range81-158.btcentralplus.com/81.158.217.227)
"Roger resveratrol is what gives wine its red color and the reason why the french don't have heart disease despite their high cholesterol diet."
This has been disproved. The amount resveratrol in red wine, even factoring in the amount of plonk the French consume, is not suffient to have the claimed effect on the population.
This leads to the inevitable conclusion that the French have been bullshitting again, this time about the health of the nation
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The answer -- watcher in the rye, Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 14:09:27 (h145.43.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/174.131.43.145)
"Do you side with the companies who developed anti-retrovirals for AIDS sufferers or do you prefer certain parties in the South African government who recommend beetroot?"
YES
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Repeat question for Ray -- Reporter, Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 3:42:32 (mobile-166-217-019-237.mycingular.net/166.217.19.237)
Ray - you didnt answer the question : yes or no please .
"Do you side with the companies who developed anti-retrovirals for AIDS sufferers or do you prefer certain parties in the South African government who recommend beetroot?"
YES or NO , I will keep asking until I get an answer .
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. -- ray, Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 19:37:52 (nv-71-52-51-205.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/71.52.51.205)
Roger resveratrol is what gives wine its red color and the reason why the french don't have heart disease despite their high cholesterol diet.
JIMBO the #$%^## Bulls are not losing, they are just *#$#@ throwing the games away. Kirchner is an idiot, kicks and hands the "Bumblies" the ball on a platter in the last 3 minutes of the game.
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rugby -- lesg (exasperated), Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 9:32:37 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
can you guys see how bored i am?
I have learnt a lesson about predicting rugby matches! I am going to leave that to Jimbo...
One thing I am prepared to bet on though is that in Kimberley there is going to be a winner with the other team being very unhappy, whilst in Durban there is going to be a losing team and one team being happy!
Ray, I see the advert at the top of Bush Telegraph advises that sunshine boots the immune system... Geeze I AM SO bored!
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Huh??? -- LesG (befuddled), Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 9:15:48 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
don't know what game the Aus commentator is watching... he just made a acooment about "mercurial play"! Is that Aus for School boyish?
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Eish Eish Eish -- LesG (bemused - read pissed......), Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 9:11:24 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
The fact that I am sitting on my laptop surfing the net whilst watching rugby (or an excuse for the game) say volumes for the quality of the reds vs lions game.
Proteas blew an excellent chance last night... what a great couple of months cricket between Aus & SA.
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eeish -- Nellie (cracking up), Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 7:48:21 (203-59-212-118.dyn.iinet.net.au/203.59.212.118)
B,tears et al,
LesG,
27-11 with 20 minutes to go,I would be a little nervous to, Hau.
Cheers.
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Jimbo Sad Ozzie Toss -- Patrick, Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 7:33:35 (iburst-41-213-126-5.iburst.co.za/41.213.126.5)
Jimbo, How does any self respecting Rhodesian, turn into a half witted Oz supporting w--ker?
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stormers -- lesg (nervous), Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 6:46:39 (c20-164.blackberry.net/93.186.20.164)
Hurricanes making their lives more difficult against stormers than should be! Other than a breakaway try stormers don't look like they are in this game
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Ray -- Roger, Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 5:54:30 (222-152-186-141.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.152.186.141)
(out of context)
Glucose/sugar supresses the white blood cells capability to make peroxide.
I once stood behind 6 blacks in a market in Pretoria. Each one had a 500 g pound packet of white sugar in their hands, their only purchase.
Question: Is that why they're black Ray?
Seriously though, have you came across "Resveratrol" it seems pretty potent
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Go the Brumbies -- Jimbo, Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 3:23:32 (220.253-193-34.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.193.34)
Go the Brumbies, one down two to go. What happened Ray? LesG, you are next buddy.
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. -- Barman, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 16:53:04 (adsl-75-56-204-40.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.204.40)
Coming up sir, rattlesnake or puffadder?
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0>0 -- Hank's other brother Hank, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 15:04:22 (mail152.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.152)
Barman I'll have an H202 and Pepsi -- with a dash of speed and a teaspoon of Omega3. And a large snakeoil chaser.
JohnW, that Van you spoke of, was he a Chaplin graduate - I'm sure I know him; could be any one of a large number though?
Is that the Chap I see getting all tickled pink?
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Honky ouens -- goff, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 10:48:51 (mk-airlines-rtr-e1.hiway.co.uk/195.12.0.225)
Honky ouens got no skaam ek se. How can you jol full Riddel and then skeem humour. Your diffs are wounded ek se
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Inside Zimbabwe -- Bob, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 9:39:24 (NoHost/218.185.83.33)
Thursday, 16 April, 2009
Sarah McDermott Thu 16 Apr 09, 05:51 PMHere's a look ahead to tonight's Newsnight:
Tonight we have an exclusive report from inside Zimbabwe, only two months after the MDC joined a coalition government with Robert Mugabe's ZANU PF. The film documents starving Zimbabweans who have been forced to poach wild animals, and shows how the country is being turned into a land of orphans. This as we see shelves of branded food items filling a grocery shop - only for the fortunate who can pay in foreign currency. The Finance Minister tells us that Western donors must start to give aid again to Zimbabwe or "this experiment will collapse and without that we become a failed state." Watch a clip here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2009/04/thursday_16_april_2009.html
Thursday
Tonight: an exclusive report from inside Zimbabwe; national security; and IMF head Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm
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Jo Pete -- DaveC, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 8:41:01 (host86-136-49-37.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.49.37)
Chaplin!! I used to like you - why do you have to ruin your name like that? The only good result from Chaplin was Nick Price.
OK lets be fair - you guys weren't poofs like the Salisbury schools, I'd say more like pussies.
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Tickled Pink -- and laughing hysterically, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 8:35:39 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
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. -- Ray, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 5:22:07 (adsl-75-56-206-88.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.206.88)
London Mike, the reason why you should supplement Omega-3 is that food processors have effectively removed it from our diet by a process called hydrogenation.The reason is that Omega-3 can become rancid quickly and they do not care if the consumer is unsuspecting. It is absolutely necessary to synthesize anti-inflammatory hormones in our body.
Reporter, I side with a functional immune system.
It is well known biochemistry that white blood cells make hydrogen peroxide which detroys pathogens.
Vitamin C which the human liver cannot make stimulates white blood cells to make hydrogen peroxide, and the higher the intake the more peroxide made and the more pathogens zapped.
(Some highly technical info for biochemists: ascorbic acid upregulates the HMP shunt in phagocytes which converts NADP to NADPH, which is then used to make superoxide radical. Glucose downregulates the HMP shunt)
Glucose/sugar supresses the white blood cells capability to make peroxide.
I once stood behind 6 blacks in a market in Pretoria. Each one had a 500 g pound packet of white sugar in their hands, their only purchase.
Can I make this any simpler???
The immune system in the average person is barely functional.
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I regret -- Jimbo, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 3:51:38 (220.253-197-166.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.197.166)
LesG and Ray, I regret to say that all three of the Sufefrican teams that you mentioned(Bulls, Lions, Sharks) have a pretty good chance of winning. I can but hope that the Aus teams have a clean sweep, but not confident.
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Direct Question for Ray ; answer needed ! -- Reporter, Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 1:49:51 (c-71-203-115-141.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/71.203.115.141)
"Do you side with the companies who developed anti-retrovirals for AIDS sufferers or do you prefer certain parties in the South African government who recommend beetroot?"
YES or NO , I will keep asking until I get an answer .
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Howzit BT -- John W (Nearly Hysterical wif Laughter), Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 23:36:16 (adlgw1.baulderstone.com.au/203.37.164.2)
You okes are ALL talking Kak !
There was only one school worth talking about, Chinas.
PE - Academic powerhouse and home of the Rugby Tigers.
Talk of Pundah in the Midlands and scarcity thereof ???
Ask my mate Brooooce about the likes of Gretl M.
Now, she would have sorted ALL you lot from the Midlands, single handed, errrrrr, or whatever ! :D
Doc. Hollywood and Omega 3 and you can play Rugby, etc !....
Reminds me of 'Van', who phones up the company making 'Tampax' and tjoons them that he has been trying their product for several months and he still can't swim or play Tennis....
Strusebob Ek se !
TTFN
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LesG -- DaveC, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 21:53:02 (host86-136-49-37.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.49.37)
What do you think.......columbian marching powder?...wackie backie?.......One of the things we played in the bush was (cant spell it) clay lekkie! A blob of clay at the end of a metre stick and flicking it at max velocity to inflict major pain. Go Guinea Fowl!!
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whats foul? -- lesg (smirking), Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 19:36:03 (c20-167.blackberry.net/93.186.20.167)
DaveC... Reckon you're still in the bushes smoking... What are you smoking?
London Mike... When guys come from chaplin & 'something foul' and are pillow biters, pushing the boat and puhnda have a whole new meaning!
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dodgy punda -- london mike, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 19:11:12 (82-44-212-43.cable.ubr09.haye.blueyonder.co.uk/82.44.212.43)
Hey Ray, if I don't want to play rugby now, let alone 63, should I still take Omega-3?
Struze, I don't even know where Chaplin and Guinea Fowl are - Gwelo? - but it seems as though willing punda must have been easy to come by - odds are good but the goods are odd, as they say.
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. -- Ray (.), Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 18:13:37 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Jimbo, Craig Wells, (for Brumbies, Vs Stormers 1999) is going to try to be the oldest player ever (40) to play in the rugby world Cup 2011. He is very smart by using my superman formula of nutrients which allows me to play at 63. After two weeks he is telling me he can already feel the difference and is now playing in the USA Superleague. He set up a try in the game Belmont Shore against OMBAC 2 weeks ago.
For that I gave him a beer as he came off the field.
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Guinea Fowl -- Jo Pete (disdainful), Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 17:40:25 (41-208-48-164.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.164)
Yo BT. DaveC you went to Guinea Fowl? I'm not sure what the C stands for but, comming from Guinea Fowl, I can guess.
I left Chaplin in '67. In my year we would load up the school bus whenever we were bored, head up the hill, and sort you Guinea Fowl okes. Cricket,rugby,tennis, pulling punda, we were in a different class to the idigenous hukus.
Mind you we had some respect for okes like Dick Coleshaw who later became my neighbour and tjollie. Wonderful oke.
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POTS and July Braai 09 -- Caro, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 16:11:13 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
It is the time of year coming up in UK for POTS (Pig On The Spit) June 19/20 and the July Braai last weekend in July. Both events are being held at Beechwood (info on the site below)
Booking forms for July Braai are available from the following site: http://rpcuk.synthasite.com/
I keep telling them they haven't put the POTS booking forms and info there and being told it is there but l can not find it, so if you want a booking form for POTS please email me with the request and l will send you one admin@rhodesiansreunited.co.uk
Caro :-)
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LesG -- DaveC, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 16:10:11 (host86-136-49-37.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.49.37)
Don't know what you were on about Cranborne - being Salisbury they were probably a bunch of poofs anyway but you are certainly misinformed about Guinea Fowl. My last year was 75 and the rugby 1st was unbeaten and that went into 76 unbeaten. Yes, we shagged them all at rugby but it didn't make us pillow biters!!!!Ok....I must say that I never played 1st as I was too busy smoking in the bush, but you guys are still the real poofs.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 14:57:35 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Jimbo it seems the Chiefs with their largest point diffential may be figuring in the playoffs. But the Bulls and the Sharks are in the running.
I wish the Bulls donner the Brumbies on saturday what they did to Bakkies Botha was absolutely spiteful, he was shoved first by that little wannabee rugby player Phil Waugh and all Bakkies did was shove him back.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 14:45:11 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Roger, see the NZ article. The one form of unsaturated fat that you get from wild, not farm bred salmon is commonly known as Omega-3 fat, that is the cornerstone of preventing my arthritis and is what allows me to play rugby. I take 5 capsules of Omega-3 oil per day.
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Guinea Fowl -- LesG (ha ha), Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 14:11:43 (41-208-40-16.mtnns.net/41.208.40.16)
Hey DaveC,
thay could possibly be true about 'men being men' but that was in the days that women were scarce and many men were 'into' each other and would explain why so many Guinea Fowl guys were queer.
Roger... most guys I know with the name of Roger (and Dave for that matter)came from Cranborne High and now THAT is "the pot calling kettle black"... Pushing the boat was a favourite of Cranbourne & Guinea Fowl (if you know what I mean)?
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mabelreign -- DaveC, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 7:24:03 (NoHost/129.230.248.1)
I am getting a bit tired of this slagging off about Mabelreign, get a grip lads, all the Salisbury schools were shite!!! Guinea Fowl was the school that bred men.
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Trying to work it out -- LesG (moer in), Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 5:46:22 (41-208-40-16.mtnns.net/41.208.40.16)
Well i've been told by Jimbo that I am of the "less attractive" category and now Ray tells me that I am also in the "less intelligent" (or is that just plain "bloody dumb"?)... I told you it's damn difficult being a suf efrican!
Lions have a SLIGHT chance of winning a game this weekend - playing the Reds down under! Having said that their captains (Grobelaar & Fourie) are injured, so Reds will have to play their normal bumbling game.
Bulls vs Brumbies down under... Bulls a marginal win!
Sharks vs Crusaders in Durban (watch out hospital)... Am worried about this one, because if Sharks don't pull fingers out "down under" they will blow their chances at the finals which will probably then be Bulls & Tah's
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English Cricket coach -- Jimbo, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 1:19:03 (220-253-27-78.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.78)
Andy Flower has been made coach of the English Cricket team, congratulations to him, albeit a problem job. I sincerely hope he does well. dawie, he looks just like his father who you may remember worked for the POZ at Art doing your kind of work. He used to do the odd job for us on the QT as well. Andy played with my son in Eagles under 12's during the school holidays, the rest is history.
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Trying to work it out -- Jimbo, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 1:08:53 (220-253-27-78.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.78)
I think the 'less attractive' comment from LesG was a compliment to me, but I will have to think about it. I lived in Mabelreign once upon a time, and I am good looking and clever, what the hell. Who are the Lions losing to this weekend Les? I think the Super 14's will be between Chiefs and Sharks with Waratahs an outside chance. What do you say?
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Ray -- roger, Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 0:01:27 (222-152-186-141.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.152.186.141)
Ray,
This may be of interest to some of the BT readers, not specifically on the current subject but in the same genre.
http://www.health.co.nz/
And yes, asking for both good looking & intelligent people from Mabelreign is pushing the boat out a bit.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 19:27:51 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
LesG isn't that asking a helluva lot???
Good looking AND intelligent people from Mabelreign????
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cheesed off -- lesg (cheesed), Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 16:54:14 (c20-145.blackberry.net/93.186.20.145)
Hey Ray,
Now you have gone and upset me again!!!
How come I have't been put into the intelligent category with London Mike?
John "soar like a budgie" Winter... Don't you ever listen? There is NO such thing as an ugly person from ma'breign! Brother Pete is NOT fat & ugly... Just less attractive... Just like YOF Jimbo!
Dawie?
Still trying to put the pieces together. Are you Dave G from joburg?
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. -- Ray, Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 16:20:34 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Ant those diseases do not exist in say, Sri Lanka. All it needs is to change diet, eliminate sugar from food, eat less fried meat, and increase vitamn A intake and cruciferous vegetables. But people would rather die or pay huge amounts of money for treatment which does not adress the cause, than change their diet.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 16:14:33 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
John W that sausage tree fruit is great for the skin.
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Still -- Tickled Pink, Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 2:27:12 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
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Medicine -- Ant Brooks, Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 1:59:42 (adsl-144-232-197.aby.bellsouth.net/70.144.232.197)
Don't be mean to Ray, ek se!
More people make a living out of cancer, heart surgery etc, than die from it.
The UK has about 160 000 hospital beds and 1.5m health workers.
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I'll have you know -- Jimbo, Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 1:16:21 (220-253-33-154.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.33.154)
I'll have you know that you couldn't find two happier blokes than Nellie and myself, always smiling and ready for a pisstake. LesG, you couldn't pull the birds because you were an ugly bugger and still are, only now you are a grey haired ugly bugger, that is if you have any hair. A Lions supporter....I am still laughing about that one, the only other dumb bunny I know who supports them is AnnDonneryou, you two should get together and form a supporters club. dawie, you should have jumped on his head, not his back, Mardons taught you nothing.
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Howzit BT -- John W (Very Amused), Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 0:05:12 (adlgw1.baulderstone.com.au/203.37.164.2)
Now this is more like the OLD BT.
Having got LesG to come out of the woodwork, next thing we will have TCITPSS putting in an appearance, or maybe he already is, under the guise of Hank's other boetie..... ;)
'some oke', you better believe it when LesG says his boet PeteG is uglier and fatter than the renowned GretlM....
Jimbo COG and Nellie wif da smelly vellie, are not like the 'Odd Couple', more like the Cranky old Gits in the Muppets !
Hank, the Real Hank, I shall be making a pilgrimage to GOC very soon ! During which, I will also be able to get my years supply of Sausage Tree Muti for my 'swede', from the old Nganga in Mufakose....it is a little known fact that Doc Hollywood visits this renowned witchdoctor every year....and sells off the products, which include amongst others, Skin Whitening and Hair Straightener, at vast profit to the unsuspecting who's who in Fantasyland......it is rumoured that Doc. is a Personal Product Purveyor to Michael Jackson, Oprah and O'barmey....
TTFN y'all
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. -- ray, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 23:59:11 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
London Mike, ok then will do,you are intelligent and you question things. That is great. Here is just one example of bias in medical research. I was in contact with Linus Pauling, when the Mayo Clinic did a study of gram amounts of vitamin C on persons dying of cancer. They found no effect whatsoever and this was widely bandied all over the International media. Linus complained that the patients that had been given Vitamin C showed excellent survivabilty on C until the study ended. When the study ended the patients were taken off vitamin C. They died immediately. When Pauing complained about this distortion of the study he was ignored by the press. I call that a fake conclusion by the Mayo Clinic.
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Alternative versus Orthodox (cont.) -- london mike, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 23:36:16 (82-44-212-43.cable.ubr09.haye.blueyonder.co.uk/82.44.212.43)
"Put a fake article in the Journal of American Medical Association with fake data to show the natural cure does not work."
Ray. Another serious assertion and once again you do not cite ANY relible source for this or offer a SINGLE shred of evidence. Are you saying that the American Medical Association are a bunch of idiots? Or in the pay of big pharma? If so, let's have some proof. As I understand it, papers published in journals such as this and the Lancet etc. are supposed to be peer reviewed, a discipline not especially diligently practised by alternative practitioners.
I am perfectly well aware that these journals have published dodgy stuff on occasion and also that big pharma do indeed employ powerful lobbying firms to influence/pressurise governments, doctors and legislators. I do not defend this. But you do seem to throw out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to orthodox western medicine which, let's face it, is responsible for ALL major medical advances made the past 200 years which we seem all now to take for granted. Do you side with the companies who developed anti-retrovirals for AIDS sufferers or do you prefer certain parties in the South African government who recommend beetroot?
Being a total layman I do not dispute your assertions reference Vitamin C. I do question your doubts over anti-biotics but would say that it seems that they are over-prescribed as a treatment of first option.
I have done this on this forum before (long time ago, also in a very similar debate with Ray) but I would recommend anybody interested in this kind of stuff a book called Snakeoil by the late John Diamond and another newish book I read a few months ago, called Bad Science by Ben Goldacre.
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can't be -- some oke, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 20:14:39 (host-69-144-201-162.static.bresnan.net/69.144.201.162)
No-one is uglier than Gretl M. Or fatter.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 19:20:15 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Our little spat was just poor communications, Les.
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vitamin c -- lesg (happy), Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 18:39:08 (c20-153.blackberry.net/93.186.20.153)
Hey Ray,
Now I am happy... You qualified your statement & mentioned that the problem is with hospitals in general as apposed to the Durban hospital. I now no longer feel like a nostril being picked on!
Yup Dawie... That is a lifetime ago & Brian is still like an 18 year old teenager (with grey hair).
Nellie... Not possible for ANYONE from Maybreign to be ugly, just less beautiful! It must have been Brian that stole the girl! I was too much of a gentleman in those days
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. -- Ray, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 17:58:55 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
LM I use Vitamin C in skincare and I get paid to know all about it, thank you.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 17:32:52 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
London Mike, the fact remains if you are in a hospital and you get an infection from the hospital (thats any first world hospital, LesG) they will not give you vitamin C. The vitamin C stimulates the white blood cells to make hydrogen peroxide which digests the pathogens. This is well known in biochemistry. Antibiotics cannot do this.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 15:12:48 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
London Mike. This is the procedure pharmaceutical companies use. Put a fake article in the Journal of American Medical Association with fake data to show the natural cure does not work.
2. Lobby politicians ( Give em a free holiday in the Drug Company Condo ) in the Caribbean, etc, and have them pass laws against any claims that the natural cure works.
Call the politicians and ask them to call the FDA and have the FDA come and confiscate all materials and fine you.
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gombies -- dawie (marimba club), Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 13:07:15 (vc-41-30-116-78.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.116.78)
les many years back i thought you were brian as i did national service with him. it was at the marimba club and i jumped on your back much to my surpise you never new me.hey seems a life time back hey.
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get this -- Nellie, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 13:06:36 (203-59-212-118.dyn.iinet.net.au/203.59.212.118)
B, tears et al,
LesG,
you’re not kidding about looking like your boet, one of you scaled a chick I was going out with from Mabelreign.I did not know who to blame, not only did you guys look alike, you were both blind, the chick was uglier than Bruce’s Gret. M, Hau.
If you have been living in Joburg, how come you haven’t bumped into or run over JoPete, the guy has been sighted staggering all over the joint .And don’t expect any freebees from Ray, you’ve done your dash there, get it.
Cheers.
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cold beverages -- lesg, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 7:38:37 (41-208-40-16.mtnns.net/41.208.40.16)
Jimbo...
Don't know about the stirrer bit, but you definitely are the most cantankerous old bugger around. I am sure that the movie with Walter Matthau & Jack Lemon was based around you and Nellie.
If you guys do not want to be me Coca-Cola products, I will gratefully accept SAB beer instead Miller Genuine Draft or Hansa please). I can’t imagine any self respecting Southern African male drinking Brandy or Cane or whatever with Pepsi. The phrase “can I have a brandy & Pepsi?” is just morally incorrect!
Big brothers are really fat and relatively fit (they made us low class Mabelreign boys hard). Low class twin brother spends his life playing golf and / or drinking. It still amazes me when I go into a new pub and people greet me thinking I am Brian.
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Now there you are -- Jimbo, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 6:27:20 (220-253-45-4.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.45.4)
Now there you are. All I had to do was throw one insult at LesG and he came rushing out of retirement full of crap. I really am the best s...stirrer around. Welcome back Lesley Baby, hows your big brother going? Don't buy LesG a Coke anyone whatever you do. Drop a chunk of lead into a coke bottle overnight, and all that is left in the morning is mud on the bottom. Drink Pepsi folks, Les is just trying to keep his job.
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lead death -- lesg, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 5:45:59 (41-208-40-16.mtnns.net/41.208.40.16)
Hank... I am starting to like you!
You see if all these immunologists did their jobs properly John Lennon would have survived the "lead poisoning"… His assassination was probably a conspiracy by the drug companies or due to the hospital in Durban.
Whilst you’re at it, why not also blame Iraq and all other nonsense happening in the world on the poor Durban hospital?
Nellie... getting too old to still be counting. It just becomes a blur these days (probably Durban hospitals fault – I live in Joburg)
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Tickled Pink -- again, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 1:26:01 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
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LM -- adsf, Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 0:37:50 (host81-158-217-227.range81-158.btcentralplus.com/81.158.217.227)
ray will use the same proof for points 6 and 7 as he will for point1
"1. Antibiotics are virtually useless for fighting infection..."
probably something on the lines of I am a biochemist, while omitting that he is a biochemist invovled in the making of make up and makeup deriviatives
Jeeeeezuz wept.
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Ok,I Got It -- Nellie (gasp), Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 23:57:39 (203-59-212-118.dyn.iinet.net.au/203.59.212.118)
B,tears et al,
LesG,
yes no,I got that,I was going to reply but could not get a word in,Hau.Are you still bean counting.
Cheers.
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..#.. -- Hank's other brother Hank, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 23:49:00 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
lesg, in researching Dr Howenstein, I came across a news report that suggests John Lennon died from a large dose of lead rather than unhygenic yank doctors. His immune system was deficient.
Dr Howenstein, a bald certified specialist, advises against antibiotics and rather to allow the immune system to overwhelm HIV, tennis elbow and large unexpected doses of lead. The bald certified specialist has been been recording impressive results in beefing up the immune system of one of his worshippers, the well known Dr WrayWray Booohyah, who has developed a technique that allows him to suck only the vitamin C from a citrus fruit and not bother eating it. Dr Booohyah makes his own noni chewing gum by a method he perfected while working on the Dharma Initiative: he gets a very large glass of noni and sucks all the water out of it using a 12 foot length of optic fibre leaving only a litle klomp of gum. Dr Booohyah really sucks. Last year Dr Booohyah celebrated his 65th birthday serving orange slices and this year at his 61st celebration he's determined to have all the girls ooohing and ooohing.
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"Alternative medicine" -- london mike, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 23:18:44 (82-44-212-43.cable.ubr09.haye.blueyonder.co.uk/82.44.212.43)
Ray, what proof do you have for the following serious assertions?
7. They deliberately withold or suppress the knowledge from doctors on how to get the immune system to function properly.
6.If they did not do this they would lose billions.
The "alternative" or complementary medicine market in the UK alone is estimated to be worth £4.5 billion per annum (Guardian). So it's not just big pharma that has vested interests, but you and your fellow travellers too.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 21:07:15 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Courtesy Of James:
An attorney arrived home late after a very tough day trying to get a
stay of execution for a client who was due to be hanged for murder at
midnight. His last minute plea for clemency to the governor had failed
and he was feeling worn out and depressed. As soon as he walked
through the door at home, his wife started on him about, 'What time of
night to be getting home is this? Where have you been? Dinner is cold
and I'm not reheating it'. And on and on and on.
Too shattered to play his usual role in this familiar ritual, he went
and poured himself a shot of whisky and headed off for a long hot soak
in the bathtub, pursued by the predictable sarcastic remarks as he
dragged himself up the stairs.
While he was in the bath, the phone rang. The wife answered and was
told that her husband's client, James Wright, had been granted a stay
of execution after all. Wright would not be hanged tonight. Finally
realizing what a terrible day he must have had, she decided to go
upstairs and give him the good news. As she opened the bathroom door,
she was greeted by the sight of her husband, bent over naked, drying
his legs and feet.
'They're not hanging Wright tonight,' she said.
To which he whirled around and screamed,
'FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WOMAN, DON'T YOU EVER STOP?'
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Wray is Wright -- asd, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 20:45:43 (host81-158-217-227.range81-158.btcentralplus.com/81.158.217.227)
Our family have known for years that antibiotics are a big con.
… but there’s only me left now to fight the good fight; a tooth abscess took cousin Jerry last summer and a nasty cut took his mom earlier that year. This despite eating her own body weight in oranges every day.
We know that Alexander Graham Bells discovery is a manipulation by the pharmaceutical giants to fleece us all.
Thank god for cosmetologists and perfumiers that is what I say.
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ditto -- lesg, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 20:03:49 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
yes great white know all yank... No wonder Hank and company rip you off... low class twat.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 18:58:36 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Les G, YOU asked the questions I answered them. Politely with much research and forethought. My thanks is a string of obscenities, you are low class and I just wasted my time you are not worth any consideration. Good Bye.
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immune system -- lesg, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 17:49:10 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
Ray,
quite honestly I don't give a shit about the immune system, natural &/or non natural remedies... What I do give a shit about, are people that make statements about the situation in SA... as mentioned previously, the are subsequent postings from people denegrating the health system in so called 1st world countries, but I don't hear you making statements that Princess Diana died because of the crap hospital in Paris or John Lennon because of shit faced know it all yank doctors in New York...
Some of us in SA (for various reasons) don't have the ability or means to emigrate and are resigned to the fact that we need to make a living in RSA... We are gatvol of hearing how kak South Africa is, how poor everything in Africa is and how fucking stupid we are by staying here.
GOT THAT!!!!!!!!
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suf efricans -- lesg, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 17:34:52 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
Jimbo (YOF)... You forget that Mabelreign was the centre for culture, education a good rugby (and sportsmanship) in the nation previously called Rhodesia. For once in your miserable old life, you are correct! Who gives a damn about rugby teams from the rainbow nation? I am slowly but surely moving towards supporting the Maoris down under… I might stand a chance of supporting a winning team.
Having said that, the crawling buzzard, I mean soaring eagle John Winter probably has a good chance of being happy at the end of this season (Winter I am ONLY ass creeping so that you will buy me a Coke or two when come here again!!!)
Pieter Nel… don’t ignore me when I talk to you!!!
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. -- ray, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 17:33:22 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Les G that is right!!!!!!, YOU got it!!. Every hospital is guilty of lack of knowledge concerning the functionings of the immune system. There are medical doctors (Google James Howenstine M.D. NADPH) that know exactly how the immune system functions, but they are a voice, crying in the Wilderness.
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infections -- lesg, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 17:21:53 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
Ray... I fully undertsnad in my little pea brain about infections contracted whilst in hospital, and I fully understand that you being a chemist by training or whatever have more insight than a dumb South African... BUT the hospital in Durban DID NOT kill Shawn as per your post. Your insinuation was that the hospital was negligent and that they blame lay squarely on poor performance.
If that is the case, per previous postings, so are hospitals in Aus USA.
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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r -- Ray, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 17:00:23 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Les G, Mandelvhu,
let me explain it in the plainest simplest language I possibly can.
I hoop en bid that it is not bokant your vuurmaaklplek what I am going to say.
1. Antibiotics are virtually useless for fighting infection. Humans have not evolved with antibiotics, they are new on the scene.
2. The immune System is the perfect system to fight infection. It has being doing so for millions of years.
3.The average person's immune system is only functioning at 10 % to 50 % of its capability.
4. Biochemists know perfectly well (including me) how to get a persons immune system to function at peak and super levels.
5. If this occurs humans are virtually impervious to infections.
6. Drug companies make billions from antibiotics.
7. They deliberately withold or suppress the knowledge from doctors on how to get the immune system to function properly.
6.If they did not do this they would lose billions.
7. Therefore doctors and pharmaceutical companies are killing patients in hospital who get infections.
The doctors maybe through ignorance and being manipulated, but the Drug companies DELIBERATELY!!!!!
GET IT????????????
By the way I am in contract negotiation with a publisher for a book called The Kitchen Pharmacy. It will feature natural cures.
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Infection -- Mandebvhu, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 14:20:12 (cpc1-derb6-0-0-cust212.lei3.cable.ntl.com/86.0.232.213)
In early January this year, following surgery just before Xmas, I was taken into the local hospital with a staff aureus infection. I had a temperature of 40 degrees for 48 hours, and underwent three surgical procedures to get on top of it.
I have little memory of the first 6 days in hospital, but I lost 15 kilograms in 10 days.
It is true that the infection lives on the skin and is almost impossible to detect prior to the onset.
The infection was not caused by bad medical care or anything like that - it just happens.
I s'pose I was lucky - although the recovery is due to be long and arduous through further complications.
Take care.
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Mabelreign reject -- Jimbo, Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 2:58:45 (220-253-111-232.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.111.232)
LesG you Mabelreign reject, only you could support useless teams like Lions and Stormers. As for insulting me, you have to be joking, you are an amateur at that game. Who gives a.... about rugby teams from the Rainbow Nation. Go the Brumbies and the Waratahs. I was reading today that your next president is going to subject you mob to Zulu laws, that should be interesting.
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Howzit BT -- John W (Pissed off), Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 8:22:43 (CPE-121-210-241-251.qld.bigpond.net.au/121.210.241.251)
Gombie, I was supporting Natal before you were inflicted on the world, China.
I see no reason to stop now and my heart will always support Natal/Sharks.
My first side, Rhodesia, died a long time ago.
Having said that, I'm pissed off at the useless display last night, but I did think the Cheetahs would give them a run for their money on home soil.
They lost to the Reds inexplicably as well.
I suppose it's a question of going into both games with the wrong attitude, whereas the Reds and Cheetahs had the right attitude and played the better rugby on the night.
Agh....just makes it interesting eh !
I am prepared to predict that this year the Bulls will win the S14 !
Anyway, Les G, nice to see you back here again.
TTFN
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staph -- Maggi, Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 8:21:22 (ppp121-44-121-222.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.121.222)
Yep LesG, just very sad that a young player is lost so early in life. Sadly staph is a major cause of infections in hospitals, but as said previously it lives on our skins, in linen, 20% people long term so short of dipping everything, visitors including in sterilising units how do you control it ?? My own opinion again boils down to everything is over kill these days, you look at all the anti-bacterials on the supermarket shelves, chemists etc, gives the body little to improve its own anti-bodies.. you walk into hotel loos, shopping mall loos etc everything is anti-bacterial.. yet nuff said ..
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jo pete and sharks -- dawie, Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 8:04:22 (NoHost/41.30.25.0)
blue skys and bulls for ever hey. spoke to jo pete on his boat somewhere last night on the vaal wont believe the cheethas beat the sharks. rossi got a tough motor gp ahead this year, think the aussie will duff it again this year.two father xmases on the roof which one is van de merwe.
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fusch schooling -- LesG, Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 6:27:28 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
You can see my Fusch schooling (or lack thereof)coming out...
Bob (whomever he may be) still copies and pastes postings that no-one other than HE himself is interested in.
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This & That -- LesG, Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 6:23:48 (vc-196-207-47-60.3g.vodacom.co.za/196.207.47.60)
Morag & Maggi... thanks for your postings. I don't understand how an intelligent person such as Ray can post (and I quote) "The hospital in Durban killed Brumbie Shawn Mackay. He did not die of his injuries but from infection."
Nevertheless I am just peeved because all my rugby teams are being stomped!!
For those of you who may be interested, I received a birthday call from the notorious Savage. He is alive and kicking (and still trying to drink KZN dry).
Nellie & Jimbo you old goats… haven’t had time to insult you for some time. I see the same old bickering continues and Bob (whomever he may be) still copies and pastes postings that no-one other than himself is interested in.
John Winter… are you ignoring SA now that you join the ranks of sheep lovers or are you still a Shark?
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Easter -- Pete Nel(aka Nellie), Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 4:36:52 (203-59-212-118.dyn.iinet.net.au/203.59.212.118)
B,tears et al,
JW,same to you and all the other chirpers,stay safe and enjoy.
Cheers.
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