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Date Posted: 20:13:10 10/04/00 Wed
Author: Sluchainyi Prohozhii
Subject: Re: Может
In reply to: Ды Артаняннъъъ 's message, "Может" on 04:15:10 10/02/00 Mon

Nu horosho, o podrobnostyah samoi lagernoi zhizni ya deistvitelno sporit' ne budu. Moi glavnye somneniya kasayutsa tsifr prevedyonnyh Solzhenitsinym, eto ne soglasuyetsya ne s imeyushimisya ofitsialnymi tsiframi (oni ved' byli sekrenymi do nedavnego vremeni i prednaznachalis' dlya "vnutrennego upotrebleniya" KGB, kakoi im byl smysl obmanyvat' samih sebya?) ni s logikoi - desyatkov millionov byt' prosto ne moglo - nikogo by v Rossii seichas prosto ne ostalos'. Sushestvuyet zhe statistica narodonaseleniya v XX veke! Esli ne verite stalinskoi vozmite dorevolyutsionnyuy. K sozhaleniyu seichas ne pomnyu konkretnyh tsifr, no ranshe ya ih vstrechal - dazhe esli predpolozhit' chto revolyutsiya i grazhdanskaya voina ne silno povliyali na dinamiku rosta naseleniya nikakih rezkih skachkov vniz (za isklyucheniyem Velioi Otechestvennoi, konechno) za periudy stalinskogo pravleniya ne nablyudayetsya. Esho odno, sredi estontsov, u kotoryh otnosheniya s sovetskoi vlastyu skladyvalis myagko govorya ne legko bylo repressirovano 4% naseleniya. Eto konechno mnogo, osobenno uchityvaya to chto estonsy sravnitelno malenkaya natsiya i lyubye sobytiya takogo roda dlya neyo kraine bolezneny. Odnako esli my vozmyom 4%, nu pust' dazhe 7% ili 10% protsentov ot naseleniya CCCP (dopustim Stalin pital osobo tyoplye chustva k pribaltam) desyatkov millionov o kotoryh pishet Solzenitsyn nikak ne poluchaetsya. K tomuzhe daleko ne vse estontsy uvezyonnye v Sibir' popali neposredstvenno v GULAG - bolshinstvo zhilo v udalyonnyh poseleniyah sredi mestnyh russkih. Vobshe s Vami navernoye na etu temu sporit' bezpolezno, Vas eti sobytiya slishkom kosnulis' neposredstvenno :o( Sobstvenno ya i ne hochu nikogo ubezhdat' v tom chto vsyo togda bylo horosho, hotya navernyaka mnogiye prochitav vsyo eto podumali chto ya stalinist kakoi, poverte, ya dalyok ot etogo. Ya prosto pytayus' smotret na istoriyu obyektivno osnovyvayas' na konkretnyh i podtverzhdyonnyh faktah, a ne emotsiayah, a u Vas s vashei semeinoi istoriyei emotsii pochti navernyaka prisutstvuyut. Konechno i u menya vrayad li poluchaetsya byt' 100% ob'ektivnym - vse lyudi raby svoih ubezhdenii, po suti dela im ne nuzhny fakty, im nuzhny lish dokazatelstva svoyei pravoty, a esli opredelyonnyi fakt s ubezhdeniyami ne soglasuyetsa on prosto naprosto ignoriruyetsya. Tak chto naprasno ya zdes starayus' Vas (ili kogo libo drugogo) pereubedit'. Ravno kak i Vy menya. Takovy uzh lyudi :o( Hyvдsti.

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