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>[Click 4 NEW RANT & RAVE ] > ><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >href="http://z8.invisionfree.com/Rant_N_Rave/">http://z >8.invisionfree.com/Rant_N_Rave/</a> > > > >>paypal are crooks they will steal from you more >>dangrious then al copone enron and ted bundy all put >>together i am not kidding go to <a rel=nofollow >target=_blank rel=nofollow >>target=_blank >>href="http://www.aboutpaypal.org/contact_us?msgbrd=1"> >h >>ttp://www.aboutpaypal.org/contact_us?msgbrd=1</a> >>and just read a few horror storys they think that are >>above the law and they are getting away with it >>stealing millions from good people holding there money >>for months collecting interest some times for no >>reasions just cause they don't like you or want your >>money PEOPLE IT IS A SAD SAD SAD DAY >>HERE IS WHAT THEY DID TO ME AND AFTER I READ A FEW >>HORROR STORYS I CONSIDER MYSELF LUCK omg omg omg GO >>READ AND wake up there is a new crime boss in town >> >>I sure do hope you post this for others to see i am >>sorry i do not spell to good a Words of warning don't >>buy your brake kits from hotrodsusa on ebay for the >>mustang II kits with 11"rotors you have to call them >>they tell you when you call them and is listed on >>there auctions that it takes 2-3 weeks for shipping >>and for the inconviance of waiting that long they will >>send you a proporsinate valve and brake line as a free >>gift right away for ordering the kit from them >>heres what happens you call them order the brake kit >>and pay them with paypal $774.38 one week later you >>get the brake line and valve about a $30 value 5 weeks >>later all the time they don't return your e mails >>requesting a tracking # for the kit and rotors or >>answer the phone or tell you the person you need to >>talk to is never in you finaly get fed up and file a >>claim with paypal for item not received >>now heres the real stickler paytpal says the won't >>honor the claim cause hotrodsusa sent them a tracking >># and i recived that package with the brake line and >>pro valve in it leading paypalto belive i got my item >>i payed for paypal rep says and i quote ( even if the >>seller sent you a box of rocks your claim would not be >>valid theres nothing we can do about refunding your >>money they sent you something and that makes you claim >>not valid) and won't let you refile your claim under >>item not as discribed if you do file claim as item not >>as discribed paypal will not honor that claim ether >>cause you did not buy thro ebay even tho they list >>100's of brake kits for verious cars all auctions >>saying the same thing free parts when ordering this >>kit I have got ahold of hotrodsusa twice and all the >>guy can say is pay pal has my money take it up with >>them o and by the way we cansoled your order paypal >>says all he has to do is issue a full refund on this >>transaction and the claim would be closed but the guys >>at hotrods would not do that cause they are dishonist >>i lost my $774.38 alot of money to me took me alnog >>time to save up for and my car is still in peices >>waiting on a brake kit i have to take the buss to work >>about to go postal over that My only recorse is to >>file fraud charges hotrodsusa feedback on e bay is >>well over 10000 makeing you belive you are safe with >>buying from them and paying with paypal protection >>make you belive you are safe also its just not true >>Hotrodsusa knows this paypal loop hold and have brobly >>scamed many this way with paypals blessing but now all >>that have read this have been warned i blaim paypal >>more cause they give you false since of sercurity when >>useing them as payment you are not safe with paypal >>transactions outside or inside ebay and all the seller >>has to do is send you a empty box and theres nothing >>paypal will do about it cause you did get something >>with a tracking # on it even if you send them pictures >>of the 2 lbs box with the tracking # (paypal can >>clearly see in the picture tracking # is still on the >>box) no brake kit and rotors will fit in that they >>sent you leading paypal to belive you got your item >>paypal don't care its there paolicy to not care they >>are the biggest crooks here they just gave my money >>back to hotrodsusa pritty much saying heres you money >>back you have done nothing wrong its ok for you to >>just keep cheatting and robbing the comsumers with our >>blessing and they don't refund the money back to you >>the person it belongs to needless to say i will no >>longer deal with paypal comming or going and wish i >>could get back the $1000s i have payed in paypal dues >>For what i don't know maybe to get there phoney >>protection i guss. on 11 /15 06 paypal closed my claim >>not in my favor and gave my money back to hotrodsusa I >>have talked to reps at hotrodsusa since then and they >>refuse to refund my money or send me the kit i payed >>for I guss because they feel if paypal found my claim >>not valid then i no longer have any recorse or right >>to get my money back i arugeed with paypal saying i >>filed the claim right according to there policy the >>transaction stated for brake kit and rotors not for >>free brake line and pro. valve had nothing to do with >>my claim or transaction I didn't even want the free >>stuff was something that was a boniss for ordering the >>kit (what i payed for) paypal didn't care its there >>policy to not care they will find any way posiable to >>keep your money and just not deal with it I wonder how >>many people hotrodsusa have committed this fraud to >>know they have paypal blessing i am sure i have a >>clear cut case i also have been haveing trouble >>proforming my job and can't sleep over this its just >>eating me up inside and makeing me unstable >emotionaly >>so why was my claim not found valid cause paypal are >>the biggest crooks here and don't care about you and >>in this case indorse internet fraud on 11/15/06 paypal >>gave my money back to the scamer and now the scamer >>has my money and my parts its been 9 weeks i don't >>think he will return my money those bastards at >>hotrodsusa don't buy from them >> >>to bad we really need someone like paypal to protect >>our money transfers on the net to bad a bunch of >>crooks and cons got together and made paypal >> >>did you know if you have a dispute with paypal over >>$40 item you bought on ebay and you have $40,000 in >>your bank account paypal frezzes your account and i >>mean all of it for months claiming they are >>investgating it BULL CRAP paypal owns millions in dead >>accounts they have frozen from hard working people >>like you and I they have just stolen your money and >>most of the time don't even give you a reasion if you >>have been ripped off by paypal or paypal didn't live >>up to there policy and protect your money like they >>claim please post here or on aboutpaypal .com i would >>like to help get the word out and shut the crooks >down >> >>did you also know ebay owns paypal and ebay is on the >>board of drectors of the bbb in california this is a >>major conflict interesting how many complaints are >>filed with the bbb and far to few ever get there >>wonder why ??? any lawers out there i have about >>100,000 friends out there that have been riped off by >>paypal and want to do another class action suit >>against them to get our money back 100s of class >>actions suits have been won against paypal but they >>continue to do there bissness poorly and ilegely >>because even if they lose the case witch they always >>settle out of court and stipulate in the settlement >>that partys can not talk about there cases or warn >>people of the truth they make more money ripping off >>people even after paying the settlements OMG why don't >>the fbi or goverment do something and shut them down >>can you say they are above the law >> >> >>just don't let it happen to you go read a few storys >>i'm not kidding you won't belive what you read i >>didn't tell it happened to me >> >>post >>post >>post >>get the word out
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