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Date Posted: 21:11:03 11/27/06 Mon
Author: a curious onlooker
Subject: YOU DUMBASS THIS BOARD IS NOT IN USE CAN'T YOU READ THE TOP??
In reply to: 85 yr old grandma 's message, "YOU DUMBASS THIS BOARD IS NOT IN USE CAN'T YOU READ THE TOP??" on 12:18:41 11/23/06 Thu

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>>paypal are crooks they will steal from you more
>>dangrious then al copone enron and ted bundy all put
>>together i am not kidding go to >target=_blank rel=nofollow
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>>href="http://www.aboutpaypal.org/contact_us?msgbrd=1">
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>>and just read a few horror storys they think that are
>>above the law and they are getting away with it
>>stealing millions from good people holding there money
>>for months collecting interest some times for no
>>reasions just cause they don't like you or want your
>>money PEOPLE IT IS A SAD SAD SAD DAY
>>HERE IS WHAT THEY DID TO ME AND AFTER I READ A FEW
>>HORROR STORYS I CONSIDER MYSELF LUCK omg omg omg GO
>>READ AND wake up there is a new crime boss in town
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>>I sure do hope you post this for others to see i am
>>sorry i do not spell to good a Words of warning don't
>>buy your brake kits from hotrodsusa on ebay for the
>>mustang II kits with 11"rotors you have to call them
>>they tell you when you call them and is listed on
>>there auctions that it takes 2-3 weeks for shipping
>>and for the inconviance of waiting that long they will
>>send you a proporsinate valve and brake line as a free
>>gift right away for ordering the kit from them
>>heres what happens you call them order the brake kit
>>and pay them with paypal $774.38 one week later you
>>get the brake line and valve about a $30 value 5 weeks
>>later all the time they don't return your e mails
>>requesting a tracking # for the kit and rotors or
>>answer the phone or tell you the person you need to
>>talk to is never in you finaly get fed up and file a
>>claim with paypal for item not received
>>now heres the real stickler paytpal says the won't
>>honor the claim cause hotrodsusa sent them a tracking
>># and i recived that package with the brake line and
>>pro valve in it leading paypalto belive i got my item
>>i payed for paypal rep says and i quote ( even if the
>>seller sent you a box of rocks your claim would not be
>>valid theres nothing we can do about refunding your
>>money they sent you something and that makes you claim
>>not valid) and won't let you refile your claim under
>>item not as discribed if you do file claim as item not
>>as discribed paypal will not honor that claim ether
>>cause you did not buy thro ebay even tho they list
>>100's of brake kits for verious cars all auctions
>>saying the same thing free parts when ordering this
>>kit I have got ahold of hotrodsusa twice and all the
>>guy can say is pay pal has my money take it up with
>>them o and by the way we cansoled your order paypal
>>says all he has to do is issue a full refund on this
>>transaction and the claim would be closed but the guys
>>at hotrods would not do that cause they are dishonist
>>i lost my $774.38 alot of money to me took me alnog
>>time to save up for and my car is still in peices
>>waiting on a brake kit i have to take the buss to work
>>about to go postal over that My only recorse is to
>>file fraud charges hotrodsusa feedback on e bay is
>>well over 10000 makeing you belive you are safe with
>>buying from them and paying with paypal protection
>>make you belive you are safe also its just not true
>>Hotrodsusa knows this paypal loop hold and have brobly
>>scamed many this way with paypals blessing but now all
>>that have read this have been warned i blaim paypal
>>more cause they give you false since of sercurity when
>>useing them as payment you are not safe with paypal
>>transactions outside or inside ebay and all the seller
>>has to do is send you a empty box and theres nothing
>>paypal will do about it cause you did get something
>>with a tracking # on it even if you send them pictures
>>of the 2 lbs box with the tracking # (paypal can
>>clearly see in the picture tracking # is still on the
>>box) no brake kit and rotors will fit in that they
>>sent you leading paypal to belive you got your item
>>paypal don't care its there paolicy to not care they
>>are the biggest crooks here they just gave my money
>>back to hotrodsusa pritty much saying heres you money
>>back you have done nothing wrong its ok for you to
>>just keep cheatting and robbing the comsumers with our
>>blessing and they don't refund the money back to you
>>the person it belongs to needless to say i will no
>>longer deal with paypal comming or going and wish i
>>could get back the $1000s i have payed in paypal dues
>>For what i don't know maybe to get there phoney
>>protection i guss. on 11 /15 06 paypal closed my claim
>>not in my favor and gave my money back to hotrodsusa I
>>have talked to reps at hotrodsusa since then and they
>>refuse to refund my money or send me the kit i payed
>>for I guss because they feel if paypal found my claim
>>not valid then i no longer have any recorse or right
>>to get my money back i arugeed with paypal saying i
>>filed the claim right according to there policy the
>>transaction stated for brake kit and rotors not for
>>free brake line and pro. valve had nothing to do with
>>my claim or transaction I didn't even want the free
>>stuff was something that was a boniss for ordering the
>>kit (what i payed for) paypal didn't care its there
>>policy to not care they will find any way posiable to
>>keep your money and just not deal with it I wonder how
>>many people hotrodsusa have committed this fraud to
>>know they have paypal blessing i am sure i have a
>>clear cut case i also have been haveing trouble
>>proforming my job and can't sleep over this its just
>>eating me up inside and makeing me unstable
>emotionaly
>>so why was my claim not found valid cause paypal are
>>the biggest crooks here and don't care about you and
>>in this case indorse internet fraud on 11/15/06 paypal
>>gave my money back to the scamer and now the scamer
>>has my money and my parts its been 9 weeks i don't
>>think he will return my money those bastards at
>>hotrodsusa don't buy from them
>>
>>to bad we really need someone like paypal to protect
>>our money transfers on the net to bad a bunch of
>>crooks and cons got together and made paypal
>>
>>did you know if you have a dispute with paypal over
>>$40 item you bought on ebay and you have $40,000 in
>>your bank account paypal frezzes your account and i
>>mean all of it for months claiming they are
>>investgating it BULL CRAP paypal owns millions in dead
>>accounts they have frozen from hard working people
>>like you and I they have just stolen your money and
>>most of the time don't even give you a reasion if you
>>have been ripped off by paypal or paypal didn't live
>>up to there policy and protect your money like they
>>claim please post here or on aboutpaypal .com i would
>>like to help get the word out and shut the crooks
>down
>>
>>did you also know ebay owns paypal and ebay is on the
>>board of drectors of the bbb in california this is a
>>major conflict interesting how many complaints are
>>filed with the bbb and far to few ever get there
>>wonder why ??? any lawers out there i have about
>>100,000 friends out there that have been riped off by
>>paypal and want to do another class action suit
>>against them to get our money back 100s of class
>>actions suits have been won against paypal but they
>>continue to do there bissness poorly and ilegely
>>because even if they lose the case witch they always
>>settle out of court and stipulate in the settlement
>>that partys can not talk about there cases or warn
>>people of the truth they make more money ripping off
>>people even after paying the settlements OMG why don't
>>the fbi or goverment do something and shut them down
>>can you say they are above the law
>>
>>
>>just don't let it happen to you go read a few storys
>>i'm not kidding you won't belive what you read i
>>didn't tell it happened to me
>>
>>post
>>post
>>post
>>get the word out

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