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Date Posted: 01:30:27 07/31/06 Mon
Author: Lorna Doone (addendum)
Subject: Kman, please read this from your Voyager agreement: "Your forum and the posts in your forum may not contain material of ..... pro-hate-related ..... nature ..... "
In reply to: Lorna Doone 's message, "This forum is guilty of extreme egregious violations. As a Jew I resent with all my heart what I have seen here. With that in mind I have composed an email and am forwarding it to Voyager." on 01:06:57 07/31/06 Mon

I will repeat the subject here, just so that there is no room for ambiguity.

This is a statement that you agreed to in order to be allowed to administer a forum:

"Your forum and the posts in your forum may not contain material of sexually-oriented, adult, pro-racist, pro-hate-related, or harassing nature, posts with excessive profanity, nor may you post warez or software in any form including but not limited to raw, encoded, or encrypted data."

If you believe you have abided by this, Kman (or whoever else runs this), then you may have nothing to worry about.

I am not a prude. "Sexually-oriented and adult" don't bother me that much.

Nor does excessive profanity. I am guilty of swearing like a sailor at times and have used the "F" and "S" words liberally.

I am NOT a self-righteous biddy, in spite of what you may think.

But when it comes to pro-racist and pro-hate-related messages, that is where I draw the line.

The guy whose name begins with an H (whose name I cannot type on my keyboard) posted the thread saying "The Jews deserve it."

THAT is the thread I have requested that you remove (but to no avail.)

I would also suggest you remove all other threads with posts from this individual, because he has continued to spout more and more hatred.

And I don't for one second buy any "I was only kidding" posts.

Issues of "sexually-oriented" or "adult" or "harassing" or "excessive profanity" are not always easy to determine in black and white.

On the other hand the messages from "H" are, in my view, clearly pro-hate-related without a shadow of a doubt.

They may as well have been posted by Adolf Hitler.

Let me make one thing clear.

It is NOT my intention to shut you people down.

It IS my intention to do whatever I can to see that pro-hate-related messages are removed from here and -- as long as I am able to do so -- to make sure that they don't recur.

I really hope that I do NOT have to send the email I just composed.

But I will have no choice if eight hours from now those messages are still there.

I will send it and then they can read my comments and take it from there.

If you feel you have not violated their rules, again you may have nothing to worry about.

But is it worth a crap-shoot gamble here that maybe they will NOT get in touch with you or, if they do, you will be able to convince them that they will NOT find anything wrong?

That is your decision.

I know the name Kman but it might be Kwoman! That is neither here nor there.

On a personal note I wish you no ill will.

However this has affected me deeply. Perhaps if you were of my heritage and in a similar situation those messages would have been gone almost instanteously.

The reason I have not sent you an email using "Contact Forum Admin" is because I wanted to state very PUBLICLY how I feel about this.

I have, on occasion, had issues with some people posting here, but NEVER like this.

You can laugh at me and leave the messages up and maybe write something condescending.

Or you can respect my feelings (and those of other people of the Jewish persuasion) and remove them.

I hope you make the correct decision.

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