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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: It's not hard to believe that the judges may have been charged based on MSCO standards v/s the MAO. If this is so, then MSCO charge clearly to the judges were we do not care about if Miss SC doesn’t win MA, we just want someone to come back with assisting our program. If this be so, then MSCO need to cut their ties with the MAO, and become an independent pageant like some of the other states. But the girls that currently competes for Miss SC, have the hope of winning MA, and or performing their talent on the MA stage. So, instead of SC getting girls hopes up, tell all of them to quit spending excessive amount of money on talent coaches and costumes. They need to be transparent. But lets be CLEAR the judges were NOT charged to pick the most well rounded talented girl that can possibly help SC win MA.
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 21, 09:31:14pm
>>>>Judges are charged to score as follows: 1,2,3 below
>>>>average 4,5,6 average, above average 7,8,9,
>>>>outstanding 10. Prelim scores precentages with
>>highest
>>>>and lowest dropped from a panel of 5 judges.
>Example:
>>>>girl with strong interview&OSI getting 2nd in EG and
>>>>weak/averg talent--interview 25% 10+10+10=30×2.0=60
>>>>Talent 50% 5+5+5=15×5.0=75 OSI 15%
>>>>10+10+10=30×1.5=45 EG 15% 10+10+9=29×1.5=43.5
>total
>>>>prelim points=223.5
>>>>
>>>>Girl with average interview OSI & EG but strong
>>>>talent/prelim winner---interview 6+6+6=18×2.0=36
>>>>Talent 10+10+9=29×5.0=145 OSI 6+6+6=18×1.5=27 EG
>>>>6+6+6=18×1.5=27 total prelim points=235
>>>>
>>>>This is only one of many possible scenarios. If girl
>>1
>>>>was scored below average (1,2,3) for her talent, it
>>>>would be extremely difficult for her to make the top
>>>>15 out of 50+ contestants. Threes in talent drops
>her
>>>>score by 30 points bringing her below the 200 point
>>>>mark (60+45+45+43.5=193.5)
>>>>
>>>>Please note once you make the top 15 these prelim
>>>>numbers are deleted and a composite score from each
>>>>judge based on how that judge sees your overall
>>prelim
>>>>performance is given. The judge should stay
>>consistent
>>>>with their scoring and not elevate a contestant when
>>>>assigning this score. Discussion is allowed in this
>>>>meeting. Executive board is present. Composite is
>25%
>>>>of the score.
>>>>
>>>>So both contestants make the top 15. It is possible
>>>>for judges to score girl with weak talent higher in
>>>>composite because they felt she was strong in 3 of
>>the
>>>>4 categories. As it is to score a talent prelim
>>winner
>>>>lower because of being seen as average in 3 of the 4
>>>>categories. (If MAO wanted a reality TV show,
>>>>recording and airing this meeting would get them
>huge
>>>>ratings)
>>>>
>>>>Girl 1 composite 9+9+8=26×2.5=65 girl 2 composite
>>>>7+7+6=20×2.5=50 though girl one scored less than
>>girl
>>>>2 in prelim she is now 15 points ahead of girl 2
>>based
>>>>on assigned composite score before final competition
>>>>even starts. This is why so many say the competition
>>>>is won in interview. The judge falls in love and he
>>>>gives you a pass on your poor talent. Basically you
>>>>need enough points to make the cut to 15. Then you
>>>>might move ahead just as above in composite scoring
>>>>because you were so impressive in interview and your
>>>>speaking ability on stage.
>>>>
>>>>Now on to final competition. Please note once a
>>>>contestant is in top 15, judges are asked to not
>>score
>>>>below a 6 during final competition. Girl 2 will need
>>>>to make up points to move ahead of girl 1 or anyone
>>>>else scoring higher in composite. This is not likely
>>>>because she would need to score 9s while girl 1
>would
>>>>need to score 7s. Remember they already like girl 1
>>in
>>>>her speaking abilities. This is why some say the
>>>>judges meeting determines the top 10 and top 5.
>>>>Placement among the 15 is hard to change post one
>>>>category of competition. Meaning if you are placed
>>>>12th it is not likely you will bump out 11 and 10
>>>>after one category and move into the top 10.
>>>>
>>>>Girl 1 composite 65 talent 6+6+6=18×3.0=54 OSI
>>>>10+10+10=30×2.5=75 EG 10+9+9=28×2.0=56 Total
>final
>>>>score 250
>>>>Girl 2 composite 50 talent 9+9+9=27×3.0=81 OSI
>>>>7+7+7=21×2.5=52.5 EG 7+7+7=21×2.0=42 Total final
>>>>score 225.5
>>>>
>>>>Girl 1 makes top 5 girl 2 does not. Note girl 2 fell
>>>>behind even more as talent percentage decreased to
>>>>30%. Top five scores are wiped clean and girls are
>>>>given a final question that is not scored but viewed
>>>>to help with the ranking of the final ballot. Judges
>>>>are to rank from 1 being highest giving 10 points to
>>5
>>>>being lowest giving 0 points as to whom they feel is
>>>>the best over all candidate for the job of Miss SC.
>>>>Where this gets crazy is when the 1s are split among
>>>>the judges. Basically anyone in the top five can
>come
>>>>up on top. Judges are charged with staying
>consistent
>>>>with ranking based on their scoring but judges are
>>>>human and can have a change of heart when it comes
>to
>>>>ranking. There are too many scenarios to post here
>>and
>>>>this post is long enough. I will leave you to play
>>>>with numbers for final ballot and this final
>>thought.
>>>>
>>>>It is not all about the scoring numbers in SC and
>>most
>>>>of you know that. Fund raising efforts are seen by
>>>>judges during competition top 5 and awards are given
>>>>out on stage. This may or may not have an effect on
>a
>>>>judge consciously or subconsciously. Emphasis has
>for
>>>>a number years has been on being the Miracle Maker.
>>>>Whether anyone likes it or not fund raising plays a
>>>>role in this competition. Tell me one Miss winner in
>>>>the last 7 years that did not either sell the most
>ad
>>>>pages, bring in a diamond sponsor or make top 5 for
>>>>miracle maker.
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