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Subject: Re: Okay.


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Date Posted: Thursday, August 08, 09:58:47am
In reply to: 's message, "Re: Okay." on Wednesday, July 24, 10:19:17am

>>>>>>>>Judges are charged to score as follows: 1,2,3
>>>below
>>>>>>>>average 4,5,6 average, above average 7,8,9,
>>>>>>>>outstanding 10. Prelim scores precentages with
>>>>>>highest
>>>>>>>>and lowest dropped from a panel of 5 judges.
>>>>>Example:
>>>>>>>>girl with strong interview&OSI getting 2nd in EG
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>weak/averg talent--interview 25%
>>>>10+10+10=30×2.0=60
>>>>>>>>Talent 50% 5+5+5=15×5.0=75 OSI 15%
>>>>>>>>10+10+10=30×1.5=45 EG 15% 10+10+9=29×1.5=43.5
>>>>>total
>>>>>>>>prelim points=223.5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Girl with average interview OSI & EG but strong
>>>>>>>>talent/prelim winner---interview
>6+6+6=18×2.0=36
>>>>>>>>Talent 10+10+9=29×5.0=145 OSI 6+6+6=18×1.5=27
>>EG
>>>>>>>>6+6+6=18×1.5=27 total prelim points=235
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is only one of many possible scenarios. If
>>>>girl
>>>>>>1
>>>>>>>>was scored below average (1,2,3) for her talent,
>>>it
>>>>>>>>would be extremely difficult for her to make the
>>>>top
>>>>>>>>15 out of 50+ contestants. Threes in talent
>drops
>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>score by 30 points bringing her below the 200
>>>point
>>>>>>>>mark (60+45+45+43.5=193.5)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Please note once you make the top 15 these
>prelim
>>>>>>>>numbers are deleted and a composite score from
>>>each
>>>>>>>>judge based on how that judge sees your overall
>>>>>>prelim
>>>>>>>>performance is given. The judge should stay
>>>>>>consistent
>>>>>>>>with their scoring and not elevate a contestant
>>>>when
>>>>>>>>assigning this score. Discussion is allowed in
>>>this
>>>>>>>>meeting. Executive board is present. Composite
>is
>>>>>25%
>>>>>>>>of the score.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So both contestants make the top 15. It is
>>>possible
>>>>>>>>for judges to score girl with weak talent higher
>>>in
>>>>>>>>composite because they felt she was strong in 3
>>of
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>4 categories. As it is to score a talent prelim
>>>>>>winner
>>>>>>>>lower because of being seen as average in 3 of
>>the
>>>>4
>>>>>>>>categories. (If MAO wanted a reality TV show,
>>>>>>>>recording and airing this meeting would get them
>>>>>huge
>>>>>>>>ratings)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Girl 1 composite 9+9+8=26×2.5=65 girl 2
>>composite
>>>>>>>>7+7+6=20×2.5=50 though girl one scored less
>than
>>>>>>girl
>>>>>>>>2 in prelim she is now 15 points ahead of girl 2
>>>>>>based
>>>>>>>>on assigned composite score before final
>>>>competition
>>>>>>>>even starts. This is why so many say the
>>>>competition
>>>>>>>>is won in interview. The judge falls in love and
>>>he
>>>>>>>>gives you a pass on your poor talent. Basically
>>>you
>>>>>>>>need enough points to make the cut to 15. Then
>>you
>>>>>>>>might move ahead just as above in composite
>>>scoring
>>>>>>>>because you were so impressive in interview and
>>>>your
>>>>>>>>speaking ability on stage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Now on to final competition. Please note once a
>>>>>>>>contestant is in top 15, judges are asked to not
>>>>>>score
>>>>>>>>below a 6 during final competition. Girl 2 will
>>>>need
>>>>>>>>to make up points to move ahead of girl 1 or
>>>anyone
>>>>>>>>else scoring higher in composite. This is not
>>>>likely
>>>>>>>>because she would need to score 9s while girl 1
>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>need to score 7s. Remember they already like
>girl
>>>1
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>her speaking abilities. This is why some say the
>>>>>>>>judges meeting determines the top 10 and top 5.
>>>>>>>>Placement among the 15 is hard to change post
>one
>>>>>>>>category of competition. Meaning if you are
>>placed
>>>>>>>>12th it is not likely you will bump out 11 and
>10
>>>>>>>>after one category and move into the top 10.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Girl 1 composite 65 talent 6+6+6=18×3.0=54 OSI
>>>>>>>>10+10+10=30×2.5=75 EG 10+9+9=28×2.0=56 Total
>>>>>final
>>>>>>>>score 250
>>>>>>>>Girl 2 composite 50 talent 9+9+9=27×3.0=81 OSI
>>>>>>>>7+7+7=21×2.5=52.5 EG 7+7+7=21×2.0=42 Total
>>>final
>>>>>>>>score 225.5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Girl 1 makes top 5 girl 2 does not. Note girl 2
>>>>fell
>>>>>>>>behind even more as talent percentage decreased
>>to
>>>>>>>>30%. Top five scores are wiped clean and girls
>>>are
>>>>>>>>given a final question that is not scored but
>>>>viewed
>>>>>>>>to help with the ranking of the final ballot.
>>>>Judges
>>>>>>>>are to rank from 1 being highest giving 10
>points
>>>>to
>>>>>>5
>>>>>>>>being lowest giving 0 points as to whom they
>feel
>>>>is
>>>>>>>>the best over all candidate for the job of Miss
>>>SC.
>>>>>>>>Where this gets crazy is when the 1s are split
>>>>among
>>>>>>>>the judges. Basically anyone in the top five can
>>>>>come
>>>>>>>>up on top. Judges are charged with staying
>>>>>consistent
>>>>>>>>with ranking based on their scoring but judges
>>are
>>>>>>>>human and can have a change of heart when it
>>comes
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>ranking. There are too many scenarios to post
>>here
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>this post is long enough. I will leave you to
>>play
>>>>>>>>with numbers for final ballot and this final
>>>>>>thought.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is not all about the scoring numbers in SC
>and
>>>>>>most
>>>>>>>>of you know that. Fund raising efforts are seen
>>by
>>>>>>>>judges during competition top 5 and awards are
>>>>given
>>>>>>>>out on stage. This may or may not have an effect
>>>on
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>judge consciously or subconsciously. Emphasis
>has
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>a number years has been on being the Miracle
>>>Maker.
>>>>>>>>Whether anyone likes it or not fund raising
>plays
>>>a
>>>>>>>>role in this competition. Tell me one Miss
>winner
>>>>in
>>>>>>>>the last 7 years that did not either sell the
>>most
>>>>>ad
>>>>>>>>pages, bring in a diamond sponsor or make top 5
>>>for
>>>>>>>>miracle maker.

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