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Date Posted: 14:49:45 06/05/02 Wed
Author: zazoo
Subject: Hear Hear!
In reply to: Cari 's message, "Well I think I know what he is saying" on 12:13:37 06/05/02 Wed

Oh and Cari, I thought you might be interested in this bit of info re: Barmitzvah's. I know you were just teasing me the other day about Jaffe's Bark Mitzvah and all...we were having fun. But here is some information about misconceptions that it means literally becoming a man in all ways, and what it really intends:

Bar mitzvah is not about being a full adult in every sense of the word, ready to marry, go out on your own, earn a living and raise children. The Talmud makes this abundantly clear. In Pirkei Avot, it is said that while 13 is the proper age for fulfillment of the Commandments, 18 is the proper age for marriage and 20 is the proper age for earning a livelihood.
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If you compare this to secular law, you will find that it is not so very far from our modern notions of a child's maturity. In Anglo-American common law, a child of the age of 14 is old enough to assume many of the responsibilities of an adult, including minimal criminal liability. In many states, a fourteen year old can marry with parental consent. Children of any age are permitted to testify in court, and children over the age of 14 are permitted to have significant input into custody decisions in cases of divorce

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