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Date Posted: 09:07:58 11/11/06 Sat
Subject: Yup, female flyers do have a 'receptive' period, usually ....
In reply to:
's message, "Re: Do Flyers go into "heat"?" on 00:58:40 11/11/06 Sat
(Yup, female flyers do have a 'receptive' period, usually ....) twice a year, and I'd say the 'receptive' period might last about 4 days, although actual ovulation is likely just a 24 hour period. Many female flyers will seem more affectionate toward their HOF during this period -- but some will become a tad aggressive (PMS?). An online eNature guide is quoted stating a female flying squirrel is only receptive for one day. My observation of my own breeding flyers is that the female, at least in a domestic setting, is a bit 'friendlier' than the eNature guide states -- but in most mammals, being 'receptive' is not exactly the same as being in a state that promotes conception -- that is to say, ovulating. Mares, for example, will stand for the horse for about three days, sometimes four, as she reaches ovulation. Often, the most receptive days are just before ovulation, while a very angry kick will indicate that the mare has already ovulated, and now will not accept the stallion's advances.
In most mammals that exist closely in colonies or herds, there is some 'line breeding'. Line breeding in itself does not cause genetic faults. What it does do is concentrate any genetic characteristics within a group, so that genetic faults become dominate, rather than subordinate. Thus, you might find a colony of feral cats that share the genetic characteristic of having extra toes, such as the colony in the Florida Keys. Living on a small island can and often does concentrate the genetic pool. Animals don't follow the same taboos that humans follow. That said, there are studies (particularly, in Finland) that suggest in the natural setting, flying squirrels move away from the maternal nesting site, thus distributing genes over a wide area, and avoiding 'interbreeding' between immediate relatives (mother/son, father/daughter, brother/sister). I personally think that unless they're fitted with little name labels, or start wearing family tartans, it's unlikely that flyers will distinguish between their family members, when they're receptive to breeding, shunning family and only accepting as suitable mates 'out of family' flyers.
Still, when possible, it's always best to have a wide gene pool from which to choose a mate.
I too hope you'll be able to keep Mr. Big from harm. Squiggy's reaction, btw, would have likely been just as dramatic if it were some other disturbance. Molly Kule never 'squeaked' louder or more constantly than when one early evening, a little brown bat managed to get into the house, and was flying around. Indeed, it was Molly's alarm calls that finally brought the intruder to my attention.
As to your 'through the cage' question -- well, not likely, with flyers, as the 'normal' copulation position is the male mounting from the female's back, 'holding' her in place with forelimbs.
>Is it considered a no-no for closely related FS to
>have babies together?I used to have cats that would
>interbreed before I got them all spayed and
>neutered....there were never any genetic
>defects....they all were healthy and lived to ripe old
>ages.......I guess there's no way of knowing,is
>there?It just seems to me that the two of them are
>intent on getting together...for whatever their
>I have only had Squiggy for @ 10 weeks.........What
>little I know about FS I have learned from the very
>knowledgable folks on this forum.........
>I'm just hoping I catch Mr. Big before my dog
>>Yes, they go into heat if it is a female from about
>>year to about age 13 years and they have not been
>>She was likely trying to communicate with another
>>You might want to keep in mind the male you are trying
>>capture could be her father if they both came from
>>>I mentioned before that another (wild) FS showed up
>>>my house a week or so ago.....that's not unusual,they
>>>have been living in the ceiling of my house for
>>>years....I once called a "Nuisance Wildlife Control
>>>Officer" but they wanted to eradicate them in a most
>>>unkind manner...something I was not comfortable
>>>with....So we have been co-existing pretty
>>>well....occasionaly one will drop in to say
>>>"hello"....Unfortunately, I have a Golden Retriever
>>>that finds them most delicious...wish I could break
>>>her of that habit......Anyway,that's how I got
>>>Squiggy...I've had her for probably 10 weeks
>>>now....she's been so sweet....Well, BIG (he appears
>>>be twice Squiggy's size,thats why I figure he must be
>>>a "guy")Mister Squirrely showed up last night in
>>>another bedroom....I tried to coax him with all kinds
>>>of yummy treats....could not convince him I meant no
>>>harm....(other than to use him for breeding stock!!)I
>>>finally gave up around 2:30 a.m....
>>>When I went into Squiggy's room to feed her tonight
>>>5:00 pm she was really agitated,leaping around the
>>>cage like she was shot out of a cannon........then
>>>did something I've never seen (or heard) her do
>>>before....she made this wierd,high-pitched noise,
>>>her mouth opened....at first I thought she was
>>>choking...sounded a little like a cat hacking up a
>>>hairball,but softer.......I figured she was calling
>>>Mister Big....is this possible?She had attatched
>>>herself to the bars on one side of the cage which
>>>faces a bookcase........she was looking intently at
>>>it,with her little schnoze sticking out of the bars
>>>and her little hands (they look just like hairy human
>>>hands to me)gripping them...she looked like a
>>>desperate prisoner...I must say,Mister Big looked fat
>>>and happy when I saw him last night..........I'm
>>>thinking that he visits Squiggy at
>>>night..............she probably tosses him a few
>>>nuts,apples and sweet potatoes....Hey,they say the
>>>to a man's heart is through his stomach,so I guess
>>>that would hold true in Squirrel-World,too.........
>>>So, I was wondering,is she acting wierd because HE is
>>>around....How do they behave when it is "Their
>>>Time"?And can they "do it" with one inside the cage
>>>and the other out?I remember when I was a child, a
>>>neighbor of ours had a single female rabbit in a
>>>hutch outside...Come Spring time, Honey Bunny had
>>>multiplied!Either she was sneaking out after
>>>dark,coming home and locking herself back in her
>>>So, Can I hope for babies in the spring?
>>>I am still going to try to catch Mr. Big..........But
>>>he is a big tough looking Dude,I am currently
>>>around my leather gardening gloves just in case I
>>>him and have the opportunity to make the grab......I
>>>know I cant house them together immediately,
>>>chances are they are old buddies from before I caught
>>>I have a small hamster cage I can use temporarily....
>>>Oh! I am so sorry to be so long-winded...I've gotten
>>>carried away again.........
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Re: Do Flyers go into "heat"? -- Agnes, 12:10:39 11/11/06 Sat
Re: Do Flyers go into "heat"? -- Squiggy's Mom, 13:59:32 11/11/06 Sat