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• Thank You! (NT) -- .., Fri, January 04, 04:46:34pm
• Thanks very much, now come on everyone, lets support this local feis! (NT) -- lets go feisn, Fri, January 04, 04:54:05pm
• Still " no thanks" (NT) -- Just me, Sat, January 05, 05:43:54pm
  • there was no request for a response. You seem to have attitude, so I personally am glad that you are not coming. Looking forward to it.. (NT) -- ls, Sat, January 05, 06:42:18pm
• Finally registered. Thanks for a quality Feis. Now to get them to classes. (NT) -- Good to get back to routine., Mon, January 07, 04:17:59am

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• most dry cleaners wont touch them with a 10' pole so I use a combo of babywipes and tide stick (NT) -- good luck, Wed, January 02, 02:16:14pm
• I successfully used Magic Eraser to spot clean marks on back of skirt from kicking up, and on lining. Just did it carefully! (NT) -- hth, Wed, January 02, 05:54:42pm
• Re: cleaning an irish dance dress -- GM (in the washing machine!), Thu, January 03, 09:36:15pm
  • WOW you have guts! I just couldn't imagine ruining a two thousand dollar dress and that's what it's worth after being drivin off the lot, not new! Your post will become an urban legend! (NT) -- ., Fri, January 04, 08:34:26am
    • Re: WOW you have guts! I just couldn't imagine ruining a two thousand dollar dress and that's what it's worth after being drivin off the lot, not new! Your post will become an urban legend! -- GM, Sat, January 05, 07:13:39pm

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• Money (NT) -- ;), Wed, January 02, 02:12:19pm
• I believe that each Feis decide that. (NT) -- a mom, Wed, January 02, 02:13:28pm
• because number of competitors in the competition are different - you take 40% and round up not down. sometimes a feis in ECR will decide to award 50%. one feis last year awarded 60%! (NT) -- most US feises are 50%, Fri, January 04, 04:25:55pm

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• Dr. Malik helped me with a broken sesamoid, achilles injuries and so on. She is amazing and understands the demands of the dancer life. She is not easy to get in with but if you mention you're a dancer it should help. -- ex mtl dancer, Fri, January 04, 01:10:50pm

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• come on people! With so few feis around, we should all be supporting the efforts of local schools that put them on. (NT) -- lets go feis'n, Thu, December 27, 11:03:59pm
• No thanks! Did not enjoy ladt year! Hate the venue and hated the stages! (NT) -- Pass, Fri, December 28, 12:30:23am
  • UhOh, were the stages bad? We won't attend if this is the case. Can't risk an injury. Does the host school want to comment as to whether there will be better stages this year? (NT) -- x, Fri, December 28, 08:13:41am
    • The host school did comment below that they have addressed the issue this year. Looking forward to a great feis !!! (NT) -- ., Fri, December 28, 08:45:43am
  • Ugh. You are entitled to your opinion but at a time when ECR feises are needing support perhaps it is not be essay to broadcast it. I did not share your opinion. Loved the feis last year (NT) -- Not judgemental, Fri, December 28, 08:49:40am
• I will be going and I am looking forward to the first feis of 2013! (NT) -- glad for a local feis!, Fri, December 28, 09:33:53am
• We have always attended this feis and LOVE it! Tons of space, well run and yummy food. Looking forward to it! (NT) -- Mom, Fri, December 28, 10:49:57am
• After our feis in 2012, voluteers stayed until after midnight painting all stages with a non slip surface. Unfortunately this couldn't be done prior to the last feis as there was a 48 hours curing time. As for the venue, we had limited use of the fourth room that was used for Prelims last year but we now have full use of this room and the champ stage is being moved to this room to hopefully alleviate the noise from the both the Prelim and Champ campers. We received a lot of feed back (good and bad) on last years feis and have taken this into consideration when planing the 2013 feis. (NT) -- Kathleen O'Neill Cowan, Fri, December 28, 01:16:45pm
• We're coming. I'll register soon, just let me get over the holiday madness. (NT) -- More than satisfied with the efforts of this Feis association. Good job all!, Sun, December 30, 01:38:10am
  • same here, will be coming in from the east, always glad that Toronto has many feis' (NT) -- thx, Sun, December 30, 09:27:04am
  • LOL, same here on all counts. Will get done this week. Kathleen, bravo on thecommunication (NT) -- eastern mom, Wed, January 02, 05:55:21pm
• Will the judges be rotated on the grade stages? (NT) -- Looking for good comments!, Fri, January 04, 10:30:26am

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• We have a perpetual trophy to return to this feis but cannot attend so we are asking if someone from the GTA will bring it down for us? If not this feis then: Feis na Cara, Kelly-Oster or O'Rourke (each of those will have a D Golden feis volunteer to collect it from you). Click name for e-mail address, then contact us, THANKS! (NT) -- We're in Oakville., Thu, January 03, 04:47:56pm

• couldn't copy and paste - link inside -- irishdancingmama, Wed, January 02, 06:24:49pm
  • This isn't new info. (NT) -- 3 years old, Wed, January 02, 09:09:39pm
    • it says it was updated October 2012 - i'm assuming the no feathers part or no globes on costumes (NT) -- ecr dancer, Wed, January 02, 10:27:22pm
      • BRAVO! This is a long needed rule. For several years now we been seeing globes slapped on the backs of previous world winners and it smacks of elitism and flies in the face of attempts to avoid favourtism that throws entire schools out of major comps when a distant relative of a tc is judging. That's unacceptable but it's been ok to label the top dancers so that every judge knows who they are. I will watch with interest to see if the new rule is actually followed. (NT) -- ., Wed, January 02, 11:00:22pm
• Like the sketches :) (NT) -- me, Thu, January 03, 08:06:27am
  • But did you note at the end that these are basically guidelines? (NT) -- judges will not deduct points?, Thu, January 03, 04:42:09pm

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• $20.00 is the correct amount. (NT) -- Kathleen O'Neill Cowan, Thu, January 03, 12:02:40pm

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• I believe the rule is that a novice dancer who places first in a particular dance can move that dance to Prizewinner as soon as they place 1st with the TC's permission but must move that dance to Prizewinner in January of the next year. (NT) -- irishmama, Fri, December 28, 01:28:46pm
  • I was just looking at one of the ECR feis syllabii and it doesn't say that a dancer has to move up in January but there is mention that each region may determine the system for moving dancers from one grade to another, as they see appropriate for their region. Best to ask you TC. -- irish mama, Fri, December 28, 01:33:38pm
    • Our region you must move on January 1st in any dance you placed 1st in novice to OPW for that dance & if your dancer placed 1st 2nd or 3rd in AB/B2 must move to novice in those dances (NT) -- ECR mum, Fri, December 28, 11:16:44pm
• The post on the Eastern message board on this topic was removed per the request of the original poster. 2013 competitor lists are being posted so some people are looking these over so people are getting "outed" for breaking this rule so the rule breakers are getting testy. (NT) -- OP, Sun, December 30, 07:51:00pm
• We do what our TC tells us to do. She knows the rules! (NT) -- :), Mon, December 31, 07:50:25am
  • Our school is closed until after the holidays and IMO our TCs deserve a rest for a few weeks! A rule is a rule so I was happy to have this forum to ask this question and get a quick reply. (NT) -- Want to register for some 2013 feisannas, Mon, December 31, 10:42:51am
    • We dont have classes but our TCs are more than happy to answer questions by email or phone if a parent has any (NT) -- esp regarding feis', Mon, December 31, 02:04:32pm
• The dancer with a first in Novice can move up at any time in that dance with their teacher's permission. Some teachers prefer their dancers to get multiple firsts in their dances before moving up. And you do not have to move up at the beginning of the year if you have a first in some (but not all) of your dances. It is up to your teacher when you move up. Some have dances in both Novice and PW and others do not. Just asked my TC, (NT) -- :), Thu, January 03, 08:16:18am

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• Re: North Coast Feis Update-there are only 43 more paid entries until we will cap. Right now there are 136 non paid entries, If you are planning to attend, do not delay. We want no one to be disappointed. Looking forward to Feb 2!! -- Mary Ellen, Sun, December 30, 02:24:45pm
  • North coast feis closed Saturday (NT) -- Dec.29, Sun, December 30, 08:47:56pm

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• I think they have been decided already. Not sure if they are posted anywhere but a note below says Ryan Carroll from Goggin Carroll is one of them. (NT) -- l, Sun, December 23, 11:34:52am
• Re: Just wondering when are NANs judges>> INSIDE -- na, Sun, December 23, 01:32:44pm
  • 2012, not 2013 (NT) -- .., Sun, December 23, 03:47:17pm
    • Re: 2012, not 2013 -- n.a., Sun, December 23, 09:50:29pm

• Do you split OC comps? (NT) -- some are quite large, Sun, December 23, 04:23:01pm
  • Generally we do not. There is a possibility that we will be looking at splitting at least one of the comps to better facilitate our stage schedule but this will not be decided until all entries are in and paid. We will be looking at the the best options closer to the feis. (NT) -- Irishmama, NCF Secy, Sun, December 23, 08:21:56pm

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• a one week extention would be perfect and there is on-line payment which should help (NT) -- .., Fri, December 21, 04:59:29pm
• Here's my take on why: Competition closes January 7 - one week for late entries -> January 14 -> one week to get the stage schedule prepared and approved by ECR - stage schedule goes for approval - more late registrations arrive by mail (no late fee included with payment) -> Jan 21 -> approved stage schedule has to be reworked because late late mailed entries have dancers that now cause splits or merged competitions to be split - stage schedule has to be reworked and/or reapproved - in the mean time everyone is complaining that the schedule isn't out yet -> January 23 schedule goes out. (NT) -- I know, I'm a feis volunteer too, Fri, December 21, 07:03:40pm
  • Feis volunteer speaks the truth. Those last minute cheques coming in change everything. With fewer and fewer Feis' you don't want to deny people the chance to enter. (NT) -- Hth, Fri, December 21, 08:26:22pm
    • When will the competitor lists be shown? Last I checked there was maximum 3 dancers in each dance (NT) -- Dance mom, Fri, December 21, 09:25:50pm
      • Huh? That doesn't make sense? Max 3 dancers? (NT) -- Confused, Fri, December 21, 10:21:14pm
• I'm guessing they meant to type 30, but not sure (NT) -- :), Sat, December 22, 02:09:46pm
• Ok here's my 2 cents - leave registration open until the 14th and then get your schedule approved. Most feis leave the registration open right to the day of the comp anyway - with a late fee - as long as they are under their cap. Give us a break! (NT) -- ., Sat, December 22, 07:05:07pm

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• Your tc can not adjudicate their own dancers therefore a 'conflict' arises so they must change judges for that particular dance. (NT) -- hth, Thu, December 20, 02:35:13pm
  • change for the whole group for the round or just the one person? (NT) -- .., Thu, December 20, 07:19:07pm
    • The whole group for the round. The adjudicator must judge all the dancers in the group so if there is a dancer from their school in it they must recuse themselves from adjudicating that group. (NT) -- hth, Thu, December 20, 07:49:59pm
      • makes perfect sense (NT) -- thx!, Fri, December 21, 05:00:37pm
• TEither your teacher or the feis chair may request that you not register. Please ask your TC if you can before you sign up (NT) -- Your teacher will know, Thu, December 20, 09:10:56pm

• If you've paid credit card, dispute the charges. This company generally doesn't fill orders, have seen it happen countless time. (NT) -- ., Thu, December 20, 11:44:50am
• they are notorious for taking money and not delivering. Report it. (NT) -- ., Fri, December 21, 09:00:03am
• Thanks, everyone. I will never order from them again! (NT) -- Lesson learned! OP, Fri, December 21, 10:00:29am

• yes please... (NT) -- thank you, Thu, December 20, 09:49:41am
• I apologize to you all. We are having trouble downloading the entry infomation from Efeis into the database they provided for us. Have left voice messages and email messages but no response. I am presently putting together a spreadsheet pulling all the information manually but it is taking some time. Will get it on our site as soon as we can (NT) -- Kathleen O'Neill Cowan, Thu, December 20, 05:49:51pm
  • There is now a paid up-to-date competitor list on our website showing the dancers name and school. Once we get Efeis settled we will put up the Names/School/Competition #'s (NT) -- Kathleen O'Neill Cowan, Fri, December 21, 08:20:02am
• Thanks for all your hardwork and communication. (NT) -- Greatly appreciated!, Thu, December 20, 09:41:03pm

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• Who's Siobhan Chirico? Is this Siobhan Crummy? (NT) -- x, Mon, December 17, 07:56:40pm
  • Re: Who's Siobhan Chirico? Is this Siobhan Crummy? -- TC, Mon, December 17, 08:13:12pm
    • yes (NT) -- idm, Mon, December 17, 08:47:25pm
  • Married Name. (NT) -- Hi Siobhan., Tue, December 18, 09:27:11am
• Will you be posting a comp list soon? (NT) -- Thanks, Tue, December 18, 10:42:27am
  • Yes, as soon as we can. See post above for an explanation (NT) -- Kathleen O'Neill Cowan, Thu, December 20, 05:51:22pm

• No announcements yet. Probably not until January. (NT) -- Hoping. Need a $ break but hate to tell DD no., Sun, December 16, 11:33:06am
• I hear that! You aren't the only one. (NT) -- m, Sun, December 16, 09:17:27pm
• I also heard Goggin is out...why was the previous post removed? (NT) -- j, Wed, December 19, 09:37:38pm
  • amazing, eh? Far worse things are said on this board (NT) -- but that got removed in a flash, Thu, December 20, 06:06:47am
    • Maybe they asked for it be removed because they don't want their internal school decisions discussed on a public message board. (NT) -- no-one else's business., Thu, December 20, 12:02:24pm

• Yes they aRe normally double age groups but at 30 they will split the competition (NT) -- Ecr, Thu, December 20, 10:44:37am

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• This is not the official vendor or logo. Just another option that someone is offering (NT) -- mom, Wed, December 19, 11:51:10am

• That is terrible! We are travelling a long way and the least they can offer is 50% recall. Its not even considered a major this year. Did not qualify for worlds this year and was looking forward to this. We also will rethink this before booking flights. Good to know as out TC did not mention this info! (NT) -- too bad, Thu, December 13, 11:59:23am
  • I know it's not a qualifier, but isn't it still a major? (NT) -- .., Thu, December 13, 01:02:54pm
    • In the common noun sense of the word, yes, because many attend. In the proper noun sense of the word, no; it's not considered a Major this year. Only when it's a qualifier, and that status rotates between AS, GBs and BNs. (NT) -- mom, Thu, December 13, 05:58:36pm
• So only fifty recalls? It will feel like worlds for sure! It will be attended by all those going to worlds in preparation for worlds. It doesnt give us non worlds qualifiers much of a chance. The only reason we were going! (NT) -- Disappointed!, Thu, December 13, 01:10:16pm
  • They didn't mention a max of 50. There aren't going to be 150 dancers in an age group. (NT) -- -, Thu, December 13, 11:59:52pm
• Re: The All Scots will not be able to offer a 50% recall as in the past. Apparently there are too many entries in all categories! What a rip! -- nt, Thu, December 13, 02:04:11pm
• I cannot for the life of me figure out why we all stay in this activity when it seems to be operated like we are living in the 1800's. I am stunned by our mass stupidity and how we continue in an obviously ineptly run hobby. (NT) -- Boggles the mind!, Thu, December 13, 06:31:26pm
  • Speak for yourself. Nothing in this world is perfect. Acceptance of that fact will eliminate a lot of stress in your life and perhaps make you less judgmental. (NT) -- Have a great day!!, Fri, December 14, 09:15:16am
• the All Irelands only recalled 1/3 up to 50, just like at World's (NT) -- If the numbers are THAT high if a dancer isnt finishing in the first 50 from at least one judge, they have zero points, Thu, December 13, 07:03:04pm
  • Recalling a max of 50 is arbitrary. There's nothing magical about the number. At worlds (usually) they have rotating panels. 160 dancers dance and they give out points and from any judge, 110 dancers get 0 points. They do this again in the second round. If they can do it twice for 160, it doesn't matter how many a recalled. (NT) -- -, Fri, December 14, 12:10:34am
    • 50 is actually the magic number as it is the last place that is awarded any irish points when raw scores are converted (NT) -- ecr, Mon, December 17, 05:42:27pm
      • If all 160 dancers danced their sets, aside from it taking forever, would the results be invalid? If so, then why aren't the results from rounds 1 and 2 invalid. If not, then it doesn't matter how many are recalled. (NT) -- -, Wed, December 19, 08:38:30am
• why would you cancel just because of this? I don't get that mentality. (NT) -- ., Fri, December 14, 09:15:28am
• Because we did not qualify for worlds, we think perhaps we have a chance of a recall at 50%. seeing that its not a major nor supposed to br! (NT) -- Thats all, Fri, December 14, 10:31:50am
  • ok so you wont play unless your chances are that much better? Hello??? it's a competition...if your dancer wants to recall dance well enough (NT) -- !, Fri, December 14, 11:01:04am
    • Bingo. (NT) -- thank you., Sat, December 15, 01:44:17pm
• This will be like a worlds as all the overseas kids will be going to all scots as a prep and also many from North America , so as this sport is not regulated , you must go with the flow, we have no choice. Much of this sport is unfair and corrupt but you have a choice! (NT) -- That's the way it is, Fri, December 14, 11:48:14am
  • yes and what's wrong with that, nothing the slightest bit corrupt or unjust. Looks to be a great competition and always well-run (NT) -- ., Fri, December 14, 02:59:41pm
• Re: The All Scots will not be able to offer a 50% recall as in the past. Apparently there are too many entries in all categories! What a rip! (NT) -- dont they have to put recall percentage in the syllabus? can they just change it after everyone signs up? (*), Fri, December 14, 11:17:32pm
  • they mentioned the possibility of a monday and hoped for a 50% recall but couldn't garantee (NT) -- consumer beware..., Sat, December 15, 07:07:19am
• GB's the last few years has been recall to a max of 50 regardless if is a qualifier so not a new idea (NT) -- Intense but great comp, Mon, December 17, 09:17:13am

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• Re: Hope you have the vendor with the jewellry that was there last year. Spent a small fortune but it was all good! (NT) -- Loved her selection, Thu, December 13, 05:20:13pm
• Do you have a list of adjudicators yet? (NT) -- --, Thu, December 13, 08:59:33pm
• Love this feis. Thanks for all you do! (NT) -- Merry Christmas!, Fri, December 14, 10:58:06am
• Last year they ended up moving some of the champ comps to another stage that was horrible and slippery! Also they put local judges on that stage . Not impressed! (NT) -- --, Sat, December 15, 07:28:55am
  • Yes you are correct but the slippery stages have all been fixed with a non-slip surface and the two champs stages have now been dedicated solely to the champ competions which will start at the beginning of the day instead of the 10 am start like last year. (NT) -- Kathleen O'Neill Cowan, Sat, December 15, 12:58:59pm

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• Try wrapping some scotch tape around the end of it to make it stiff then gently work it through. (NT) -- hth, Wed, December 12, 02:58:43pm
• There is an item u can get in the sewing section of a store or fabric land that is used for turning out things like dress straps etc it is a long wire type thing and it would hook onto the end of the bungee - very easy, might only cost 4 or 5 bucks... (NT) -- Hth, Thu, December 13, 03:15:35pm
• I usually use a safety pin to do the same with sweatshirts and just feed it through. Depending on the size this might work. (NT) -- *, Thu, December 13, 07:10:13pm

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• Jan 26th www.odonnellirishdance.com (NT) -- :), Tue, December 11, 10:53:34am
• Will the judges be listed shortly? (NT) -- ., Thu, December 13, 11:51:08am

• no (NT) -- :), Mon, December 10, 11:26:29am
  • $25 a day. $75 for four and $150 for eight days. (NT) -- M, Mon, December 10, 12:47:45pm
    • another damn ripoff! (NT) -- geez, Mon, December 10, 04:47:15pm
      • so much for watching anyone other than my kids! (NT) -- disappointing, Mon, December 10, 07:25:21pm
        • Re: Tickets to Canadian Figure Skating Championships were $125 per seat this year for one round. Olympic tickets for one part of one event were well over $100. Look at any major sport event and compare. This is the world championships and look beyond the "hotel issue" and just look at the door price. (NT) -- Not that expensive, really., Tue, December 11, 08:16:41am
          • If it were run like a world class event, I wouldn't mind paying a reasonable price. You can't compare the 2. They have world championship tiddly winks as well, you can't put them all on the same pedestal. The organizers need to think more about the masses and less about their hoity toity selves! Stop ripping us off (NT) -- l, Wed, December 12, 09:51:59pm
• Re: Does anyone know if there is a fee to get into worlds each day. I know there is the $100 daily fee if you are not staying in the hotel block, but if we are staying in the block, is there an additional fee to get into the dancing? (NT) -- really?!?? crazy!, Mon, December 10, 09:07:56pm
• Not sure this is true. some think it will be like NANS and if you are in the block you get a wristband and that covers your entry (NT) -- --, Tue, December 11, 01:47:21pm
  • Not like NANs. Check your payment records: for NANs we were charged a $50 per-dancer registration fee, plus a $50 family gate fee, payable with the registration fee, which took the place of a daily per-person entrance fee. For Worlds, we were charged a $70 per-dancer registration fee, with no additional family gate fee. That means there will be a daily per-person charge to get into the event instead. The $100 event fee is just an incentive to 'encourage' people to stay at the host hotel so the block will be filled and the event's contract obligations will be met. (NT) -- Worlds always has a daily entrance fee., Tue, December 11, 02:19:18pm

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• i think i know who this is! I sent an email to the mom (NT) -- another mom, Tue, December 11, 01:11:59pm
• Thank you for your thoughtfulness, I have sent you an email as this could be my daughter. (NT) -- love when moms help each other out., Tue, December 11, 02:41:31pm
• happy ending-photos claimed! (NT) -- OP, Wed, December 12, 09:29:55am

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• Re: Thank you! -- Thanks!, Mon, December 10, 04:58:41pm

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• thx Christine, fastest web updates in the west... (NT) -- errr, east..., Mon, December 10, 09:28:11am

• 1st- Rachel Cawker, Doyle; 2nd- Camille Slaght, Gil-Can; 3rd- Lucas Lawton, Short. 18 danced, 9 placed. Anyone have the rest? (NT) -- ?, Sat, December 08, 05:57:54pm
  • Wow, was C99 ages 17 and over? (NT) -- that's huge, Sat, December 08, 09:59:20pm
    • C17 was combined with C99. Tough competition. (NT) -- .., Sun, December 09, 09:00:45am
• Results are posted on their website. (NT) -- http://www.suefayhealy.com/feille-nollaig.html, Sun, December 09, 02:12:02pm

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• Can Santa be there as well...kill 2 birds with 1 stone (NT) -- ;), Fri, December 07, 02:23:28pm
• Re: Feile Nollaig -- Believer:), Sat, December 08, 05:32:52pm
  • Hope he didn't kill any birds while he was there. (NT) -- unless they were turkeys, that is..., Sat, December 08, 11:03:08pm

• PC16 -- HTH, Sat, December 08, 06:50:05pm
• Has anyone got results for PC14? (NT) -- ..., Sat, December 08, 06:51:57pm
• PC 14 1st Rachel Hoare- Graham School (NT) -- -, Sat, December 08, 08:12:56pm
• Re: any results for the C15 and PC16 -- ECR, Sat, December 08, 09:05:54pm

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• what a great idea (NT) -- Merry Christmas!, Fri, December 07, 07:18:07pm

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• 6 more hotels are being added in the next few days as per CLRG's email to teachers (NT) -- ask your TC for more info, Tue, December 04, 05:08:30pm
• Re: No rooms left at Worlds hotels!! -- Dance mom, Thu, December 06, 03:21:00pm
• I hear there's still an empty corner left in the stable though... (NT) -- ., Thu, December 06, 06:47:34pm
  • Re: yum, love inhaling tea....thanks (NT) -- nicely played, Thu, December 06, 07:40:26pm

• You should get there at least an hour early. By the time you find parking and check in -- Just my thoughts, Wed, December 05, 07:02:48pm
• I sent an email to the feis registrar and she said if the stage is running earlier then figures will start earlier. (NT) -- irishmama, Thu, December 06, 04:44:04am
  • probably should have said that they will start at approximately 11:00 am (NT) -- im getting there at least an hour before, Thu, December 06, 04:46:40am
  • same here. Does anyone remember how lunch break was done last year? (NT) -- after treble reel, before? how long? Thx, Thu, December 06, 08:10:13am
    • I think lunch is before the Treble reel. Gives the kids a chance to switch from figures dresses and softshoes into solos and hardshoes. (NT) -- Be there early just in case I am wrong., Thu, December 06, 07:39:56pm

• one time show - was not picked up (NT) -- e, Wed, December 05, 08:02:10am
• Ha! I guess "we" are not considered to be insane enough to warrant an ongoing show. Bravo Everyone! (NT) -- ., Thu, December 06, 02:23:46pm

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• join the CLRG Worlds facebook page and you can see all of the updates (NT) -- it will be helpful, Thu, December 06, 07:56:58am
• So, who's out? (NT) -- Whew, we're safe., Thu, December 06, 08:03:08am
  • no one in north america is out (NT) -- ., Thu, December 06, 08:42:57am
• Bremer in Massachusetts is out. They do workshops with one of the judges. Stinks as Worlds is in the own state! (NT) -- mom, Thu, December 06, 08:53:23am
• School in California out as well (NT) -- Wisa, Thu, December 06, 09:48:04am

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• Don't think much is out there other than it's from July 3rd - 7th and in Anaheim - I think the Hilton Anaheim. -- a mom, Wed, November 28, 06:22:57pm
• Re: NATIONALS 2013 -- n.n., Wed, November 28, 10:15:00pm
  • where is that posted? Western Region hasnt posted anything (NT) -- WCAN mom, Thu, November 29, 04:37:48pm
    • Re If you call the hotel they have the info on special rates for the Nationals. Caution at $150 nothing is refundable. (NT) -- n.n., Thu, November 29, 06:05:19pm
• So how does this major work? Do they do a hard and soft shoe dance, then 50% are recalled and do their set? And then for the awards do they just call up the WQs? Will the recallers get a medal and all dancers get a pin? Will there be less dancers due to the location this year? (NT) -- newbie, Wed, November 28, 10:26:03pm
  • your description is pretty accurate. They call up the WQ, then do all the awards, then the WQs - a lot like the O. Pin depends on organizers - some years a pin, some a patch. Disneyworld will probably draw a lot of dancers. (NT) -- details will appear soon, I'm sure, Thu, November 29, 08:56:44am
• numbers were good size when NAN's were in San Diego in 2006 - was one of our favourite years (NT) -- ., Thu, November 29, 09:12:26am
• Since we don't know who the judges are going to be yet, be careful not to book anything that is not refundable.... we have heard rumours that our teacher may be judging and that would keep us out of NAN's! and out for California!!!!! :( (NT) -- :(, Thu, November 29, 01:51:58pm
  • heard this too - teacher doing to avoid mandatory judging for london -even with deferral that means no montreal - not happy if we miss cali but better than missing local worlds (if we qualify that is :) ) (NT) -- ecr, Sat, December 01, 01:31:04am
• Re: NATIONALS 2013 does anyone know the numbers from u17 18 in SanDiego in 2006? Would love to get an idea? How many were from ECR and MAR that yr? (NT) -- curious newbie, Wed, December 05, 04:24:59pm

• Stage schedule has been posted on the website! (NT) -- Mom, Wed, December 05, 11:27:12am
• I guessing the afternoon. They are after Prelim Champs and Prelim Sets. (NT) -- ecrmama, Wed, December 05, 01:04:20pm

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• Re: Hi everyone, just waiting for the final ok for the Stage Schedule, once approved, it will be posted asap. -- Feis Dad, Wed, December 05, 10:27:39am
  • yay!! (NT) -- Another feis Dad, Wed, December 05, 10:41:46am

• We're coming, I'm so excited. Heard its a great Feis, looking forward to some good boy competition. (NT) -- But not doing exams this time., Wed, December 05, 04:34:55am

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• The resultsvwete very inconsistent in many of the comps this year! Some usual top dancets placed much lower than usual. Marks were all over the place in many cases. (NT) -- TC, Sat, November 24, 07:23:09am
  • While I will agree that the results were a bit all over the place I thought that there were not too many surprises in the overall placings (NT) -- ecr, Sat, November 24, 11:15:37am
• There are always wonky marks from round to round...bottom and top and the middle from 3 judges for one dancer. What this means is the sport is subjective AND that at this level it is almost impossible to sort out the mid range dancers correctly due to the number of entries. Yes the bottom are easy to spot as are the top, it's the middle that can really suffer in the mix and where the most upsetting judging errors are made. But its the sport. (NT) -- 2 cents, Sat, November 24, 08:30:51am
  • Very well said 2 cents. (NT) -- It really is like that if you actually watch the whole competition., Sat, November 24, 11:56:37pm
  • I could this being an issue if there are 100 entries to judge but in the ecr we saw some comps with 20 to 30 dancers so they should be able to jaccurately judge those numbers. How do the ADs judges a feis in grades where there are 20-30 dancers? (NT) -- Results - what to believe, Sun, November 25, 08:35:40am
  • I did watch most of the competitions and my dd was "lost in the middle" which was only evident when results where examined. Some dancers inexplicably placed above her and then she impressed at times. Now if comps were filmed & THEN marked for true accuracy & not judged based on 2 minutes of real time & whatever politics comes into it then the results would be very different. But that's not ID & so dancers must work harder to separate themselves from the pack. At this level it's not what you can do, it's what you can't that gives judges the chance to make the snap decisions they must. (NT) -- 2 Cents Again!, Mon, November 26, 10:12:39am
• So do the TCS make excuses saying poor judging so that the parents don't think it was do to how their kid danced or was trained to dance? (NT) -- Just saying, Sat, November 24, 08:59:31am
  • Meant to type "due to how their kid danced" (NT) -- ., Sat, November 24, 09:00:53am
  • Yes this does happen. Also doesn't want her dancers to attend awards so they can't see how other schools did. The judging is fixed so why bother she says. (NT) -- Not sure how she explained this year's results., Sat, November 24, 05:44:00pm
    • Hmm does she teach with a guy from US? They didn't go to Friday awards because they got no recalls. (NT) -- Pug, Sat, November 24, 07:14:48pm
      • Yup you've got the right school - so bizarre that someone would think they could brain wash parents into that kinda thinking (NT) -- so weird, Sat, November 24, 09:25:44pm
        • And you think that is the only school trying to do this? Parents don't want to hear that their little dear is anything but the best even when they place last. (NT) -- 6 or 9 judges told you the truth as they saw it, Sat, November 24, 10:04:36pm
          • Not the case at our school. Our TCs never blame the judges entirely for poor results but more importantly engourage good sportsmanship between classmates and dancers from other schools (NT) -- would never be told not 2 go 2 reults, Sat, November 24, 11:04:38pm
        • I was at awards friday night since I did have a dancer place in TR. I have NEVER told my families not to attend awards, your comment is simply untrue. ECR is amazingand talented. I see the hard work of my dancers, and of course I wish they could all place. I don't think that is any different then all TC's. It makes me sad that some people think it is OK to attack dancers/TC's/schools on this board, I love Irish dance and I try to pass that love of dance onto my students. (NT) -- S. Thoms TRCG Ardan Academy, Mon, November 26, 12:08:50pm
          • Not the school i was talking about LOL (NT) -- too funny, Mon, November 26, 10:55:40pm
• I felt the judging was fair this year. Coming from a dancer who did well but not as well as she had hoped. subjective art= you win some you lose some. (NT) -- Used to be retired, Sat, November 24, 09:43:01am
• And as we have heard before, it seems there will always be some favoritism from judges to certain dancers whether it is style, or teacher connections...it is a subjective sport and there are good judges, bad judges and unscrupulous ones too. It all factors in to the results. (NT) -- ;s, Sat, November 24, 09:57:13am
• Objectivity -- inside, Sat, November 24, 11:26:48am
• I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the results are only fair when my kid wins. (NT) -- ., Sat, November 24, 03:20:42pm
  • lol (NT) -- exactly!, Sat, November 24, 03:57:02pm
  • perfect! LOL :) (NT) -- ~, Sat, November 24, 05:40:27pm
• I thought for the most part they were fair. I really liked seeing some different names movng through the ranks, and lots of small schools did very well. (NT) -- .., Sat, November 24, 06:22:18pm
• In my daughters comp the top 3 places had consistently (NT) -- top places (all in top 7) from all 9 judges, Wed, November 28, 08:39:40am
• Anyone notice that the judging didn't lie up with the local feis scores? Is that due to the fact that the judges were not local? (NT) -- Different results, Wed, November 28, 10:01:13am
  • This usually happens at the Oireachtas. Some dancers perform better on feis stages, some perform better on majors stages. Many different factors. (NT) -- ., Wed, November 28, 10:30:41am
    • including favoritism to specific schools and teachers! the sad truth of Irish dance judging (NT) -- l, Thu, November 29, 01:54:41pm
      • Really? Sounds like sour grapes. I have found you always hear this complaint (NT) -- from schools/parents who need to justify why their child didn't place as well as they thought, Thu, November 29, 02:00:11pm
        • I agree - my dd is not even her TC's favourite let alone some judge that she has never met and her school would not be considered a favourite as well - she earned her placement by working very hard, listening and trying to apply every correction she got. (NT) -- Hard work pays off, Thu, November 29, 03:47:41pm
          • Absolutely agree. It might also help to remember that even if a dancer attends a so-called "favoured" school, they still won't get anywhere if they don't work hard. A name alone (NT) -- is not enough., Thu, November 29, 04:19:39pm
          • You people must have your head in the sand if you don't realize that there is lots of favouritism and back scratching going on in this irish dance world. Lots is also perfectly fine and the judging makes sense. Some are not as obvious as others in their back scratching. It is not sour grapes it is 100% true. Teachers acknowledge that it happens. It is frustrating unfair and dishonest, but it happens. Look to other message boards and you will see the same comments. It happens, it sucks, but our kids love irish dancing. (NT) -- l, Sun, December 02, 12:17:12am
            • This is the reason given to a particular school when almost the whole school does poorly. Fixed judging did not affect this schools results, the dancing did. (NT) -- Gotta tell your paying parents something., Sun, December 02, 05:36:38am
      • Is this your view or your teacher's?? (NT) -- Pathetic either way. Blinders on. Open your eyes., Thu, November 29, 02:10:05pm
        • This is in response to favouritism. (NT) -- Oops., Thu, November 29, 02:11:54pm
• Some schools gear their training and focus to peak at majors, feises often are testing grounds for new steps,etc. They always want to do well but realistically can't be totally ready at all times so majors are the priority. (NT) -- ., Wed, November 28, 12:50:21pm
• we don't even attend feisanna anymore. We go to majors. You can't predict results for a major based upon your local feis. TOTALLY different animals. (NT) -- ., Fri, November 30, 09:45:21am
  • I guess that is okay if you are in prelim or OC? Not much choice if you are in the Novice or PW ranks... Issue is that we have the same judges and they give out 2nds with no comments. (NT) -- Feis on and on and on..., Fri, November 30, 11:56:55am
    • yeah you are right. I remember those days. I suggest venturing outside the GTA feisanna to Ohio and Syracuse etc. Get some fresh judges (NT) -- ., Fri, November 30, 01:00:59pm

• Picture? Link? Description? (NT) -- .., Tue, December 04, 12:36:21am
• the dress has not yet been put online for sale. It is twinkle white satin with pink bodice, embroidered hearts and crystals. It really is a stunning little dress. If you leave your email I can forward photos and details on to you. Thanks (NT) -- OP, Tue, December 04, 08:04:50am

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• if you can get yourself to Buffalo, I saw return fares from $150 per person...didn't book anything, but they were there. try Airtran, Southwest, Jetblue and all the other discount airlines (NT) -- :), Sat, December 01, 12:37:14pm
• Watch the porter rates as well. Flying from Toronto island is nice and they -- 3now1, Sat, December 01, 01:21:16pm
  • Yes i LOVE porter! definitely hoping to fly out of there - they have a lot of sales so just wondering what the trigger to buy price should be (NT) -- $300 round trip?, Sat, December 01, 01:36:49pm
• Book with Porter now. Just got 2 return tickets for $550.00. (NT) -- Love Porter!, Sat, December 01, 02:17:53pm
  • Just be aware that with Porter because of the size of the plane and the island, if it is windy, foggy, too rainy or too snowy, the flights will be cancelled (NT) -- Very risky until April, Sun, December 02, 02:43:58pm
• Just booked AC $720 return for 3 of us. Was $59 each before taxes. Not sure it gets better than that? (NT) -- Good luck, Mon, December 03, 06:43:43pm

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• http://shamrockphoto.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=1OQ9000O160004&po=4&pc=58 (NT) -- Here is a link to a picture of the dress, Mon, December 03, 03:09:40pm

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• don't let it bug you ...just another uninformed writer - this happens all the time. Yawn...no news story here. (NT) -- ., Mon, December 03, 11:17:13am

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• Just an idea -- A lot of students will be leaving T.O. for the holidays. Perhaps someone in the university's housing dept. can suggest a residence or apartment that will be vacant., Mon, November 26, 12:33:51pm
  • Re: Just an idea -- See inside for the housing dept list of places to stay --they've got you covered, Mon, November 26, 12:36:43pm
    • What a helpful list! We had thought about staying in student housing -- dd will have to do some research for us!, Mon, November 26, 01:01:21pm
• http://www.housing.utoronto.ca/stgeorge/tempHousing.htm (NT) -- another list, Mon, November 26, 03:29:29pm
  • Thank you for your help and info.... (NT) -- knew I could count on the extended ID "family"!, Tue, November 27, 06:55:08pm
    • Glad to pay it forward. We hope to come down your way soon for a feis or who knows maybe even Worlds... (NT) -- Nn, Tue, November 27, 11:15:31pm
• Thank you for being so helpful! (NT) -- Knew I could count on ID extended "family"!, Wed, November 28, 09:49:54am
• Another possibility would be to check airbnb.com. Many family and friends have had great success (NT) -- Denise, Sat, December 01, 07:15:48am

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• Are any dance supplies on sale or just Irish gifts etc (NT) -- thanks!, Fri, November 30, 04:28:25pm

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• Re: still trying to sell -- dm, Thu, November 29, 07:32:38pm
  • Re: still trying to sell -- Mum, Thu, November 29, 08:26:44pm

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• I didnt see where it mentions schools in the ECR (NT) -- Just cuz someone signs ECR does not mean they are from ECR region, Wed, November 21, 09:24:11pm
• Sounds familiar to me even though no school names mentioned. I'm sure this happens in many regions but telling your students the other teacher yells (in a bad way) to try and keep your students is a pretty sad measure. (NT) -- ECR, Wed, November 21, 10:43:43pm
• Ahaha, I go to that school. What the poster said is very true and it's pathetic (more inside) -- Been going on for years., Wed, November 28, 11:47:08pm

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• Re: is GC taking a bus again? Is there room on the bus or limited just to GC dancers. (NT) -- ECR momma, Wed, November 28, 01:25:44pm
  • Not sure if they are doing one but in the past they try to fill with dancers from within their school and then always open to the rest of the ECR (NT) -- but again not sure bout this year, Wed, November 28, 02:33:18pm
• GC squared (Goggin-Carroll and Gilchrist-Canavan) are each doing a bus and riding in tandem again this year, leaving Friday morning and coming home late Saturday. If you are interested in joining us on the Gil-Can bus please email me, we don't usually fill it on our own (thus Graham dancers joined us last year making it G cubed). (NT) -- Alison, Wed, November 28, 10:50:35pm

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• Re: Pittsburgh Winter Feis- ( Dec 27-30) cannot get a group room rate, is there a hotel close by I can look into (NT) -- Dancer mom, Wed, November 28, 03:27:37pm
• Re: Pittsburgh Winter Feis- ( Dec 27-30) -- JgI, Wed, November 28, 06:04:22pm

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• Unfortunately, No (NT) -- =, Fri, November 23, 10:26:31am
• No - team must have competed at O - does not have to be same 8 dancers but a team has to have danced (NT) -- ecr, Fri, November 23, 12:07:02pm
  • And can they have had only a 4 or 6 hand team at O.? (NT) -- ecr newbie, Fri, November 23, 12:23:35pm
    • No - had to have had an 8 hand compete (not just be entered) (NT) -- ecr, Fri, November 23, 02:51:11pm
• So does that mean there are only 8 hands at Worlds? No 4 or 6 hands? (NT) -- mom, Mon, November 26, 09:11:13am
  • Yes only 8 hands - all girls teams or teams with 4 boys and 4 girls- - and dance dramas and choreographies (NT) -- No 2 4 or 6 hands, Mon, November 26, 12:48:36pm
    • Does it have to be 4 boys? Or can it be a team with 2 boys? (NT) -- thanks, Tue, November 27, 11:32:12am
      • pretty sure that the mixed ceili is 4 and 4 but would have to check syllabus to confirm (NT) -- ecrr, Wed, November 28, 04:09:45pm

• One here (NT) -- brrrr...Feb...., Thu, November 22, 09:09:04pm
• Love to but going to sunny Florida for the belt the weekend before instead! (NT) -- Alison, Thu, November 22, 11:01:57pm
  • Hear hear! (NT) -- Excited for the sun :), Fri, November 23, 08:49:43am
  • what is the name of the Feis in Florida? (NT) -- thank you, Fri, November 23, 12:48:25pm
• it's not exactly a feis but a competition with all 3 belts and music competition in one place. all info on NAFC website. (NT) -- Alison, Sat, November 24, 09:39:12am
• I trying to figure out how to see castles out there (NT) -- Don't seem to be many near Glasgow, recommendations welcome, Sat, November 24, 01:12:50pm
  • You can take a bus from Glasgow to Edinburgh that puts you right in the heart of Edinburgh and a short walk to Edinburgh Castle. You can also take a bus to another ruined castle (Craigmillar Castle) which is on the outskirts of Edinburgh and a gorgeous view from the top showing Arthur's Seat( Extinct volcano) and the city of Edinburgh at it's base. Worth a short bus ride! (NT) -- BTDT!, Sat, November 24, 01:44:38pm
    • Niedpath Castle is also near there but I am not sure if a bus goes out there or not. You can also get tour busses that will take you to Lochness and Sterling which have lovely castles. If you are up to driving you could rent a car and drive to St. Andrew's (there is a small ruined castle there) or to North Berwick where there is a gorgeous ruined castle. (NT) -- Now I want to go back!, Sat, November 24, 01:51:46pm
  • So if your there a weekend and have a day to travel, spend a day in Edinburgh (NT) -- is the bus ride to Edinburgh Castle a municipal bus or another tour bus?, Sat, November 24, 03:13:37pm
    • Sorry, ment bus ride to Craigmillar Castle (NT) -- oops, Sat, November 24, 03:15:26pm
      • the bus is just the local city bus to go to Craigmillar. There is one that will take you up towards the hospital and you walk down to the castle or one that takes you to the little town of Craigmillar and you walk up the hill to the castle. Be careful! Pedestrians DO NOT have the right of way so cross roads carefully.. and there is a path beside the road behind a fence that you can take up to the castle.. much safer. (NT) -- it's not hard to get to, Sat, November 24, 03:32:18pm
      • Here this link may help -- one of my favs!, Sat, November 24, 03:37:09pm
        • Great! (NT) -- Thx, Sat, November 24, 04:07:52pm
    • Also go to Roselyn Chapel just a short city bus ride to the town of Rosyln near Penicuik. It was the chapel featured in the movie Angels and Demons by Dan Brown. There is a ruined castle there as well but not as spectacular as the others. The chapel itself is a magnificent work of art!. (NT) -- another fav!, Sat, November 24, 03:40:30pm
    • There is also Holyrood which is the official residence of the Royal Family when they are in town. It is at the end of the Royal mile and open for tours when the Royals are not there. (NT) -- A castle of sorts.., Sat, November 24, 03:49:34pm
  • That's great guys, keep it coming :) (NT) -- Gonna see some castles!! woohoo!!, Sat, November 24, 04:02:52pm
    • I am not very familiar with Glasgow but Edinburgh is a great city for doing things. The Royal mile full of fun activities besides Edinburgh Castle and Holyrood House. inside.. -- Lots to do in Edinburgh!, Sat, November 24, 04:28:31pm
    • Recommend if you have time to take a 2 to 3 day trip with Rabbies tour company based in Edinburgh accomodation can be booked with them too or www.aboutscotland.net who will tailor a day tour for you from glasgow (NT) -- have done both, Sun, November 25, 12:29:52pm
    • if you head to Edinburgh get a pass (NT) -- gets you in to plenty of places, Wed, November 28, 08:41:30am
• What level should a u8 or u9 dancer be at for this competition? Any direct flights from Toronto? (NT) -- Might brave the cold!, Wed, November 28, 10:08:19am
  • Champ, Prelim Champ and grades if the teacher thinks they are ready -- flights inside, Wed, November 28, 02:07:45pm
    • Thanks for the info. (NT) -- ., Wed, November 28, 04:09:14pm