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Subject: WAR IS WRONG - IT HAS NEVER BEEN RIGHT


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Maryse
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Date Posted: 16:38:44 08/15/08 Fri
In reply to: Albert Tucker 's message, "New World Order" on 20:33:32 01/25/08 Fri

Here below some high level teachings from some spirits about the subject of WAR. These transcripts are from "THE GUIDING STAR TO A HIGHER SPIRITUAL CONDITION" that I am working on. I shall try to finish the dizitalizing of this book and add it to my E-library -- a philantropic fountain of knowledge, with "free water" for all those who are thirsty -- as soon as possible. This book talks also about extraterrestrials intelligences helping.


From Spirit EDWARD HUGHES
Does a soldier suffer for killing his foes?

186. Friends, I am here tonight to answer the question.
Does a soldier suffer for killing his foes?" I am here to tell you that I suffered, and suffered keenly for the killing of my foes. I have found that the difference in the mode of killing does not condone the wrong. Because one man takes the life of another in a manner that the people of earth consider just, does not signify that the Infinite will take the same view of the subject.

187. I passed out on one of those bright sunshiny days of spring, when the warmth of the sun is just beginning to triumph over the frost of winter. I had been thinking of home, so strongly, for several days; and I had that feeling that is so difficult to explain to others; and that comes to many: "That I would never see the dear old home again!" And this thought must have caused my spirit, upon its release, to seek, at once, the favorite haunts of my childhood home. The boughs of the apple trees that were loaded with pink and white blossoms, gave promise of a bountiful harvest; the white clouds looked like ships, sailing on a blue sea; and I thought how little sister and I used to sit and watch them and speculate on when they would return, and what they would be loaded with.

188. A lazy, dreamy feeling of the hills and wood and meadow lands, came stealing over me, and I felt that I was a boy again, and went skipping down to the brook to see if the water was not beginning to get warm enough for "fishing," and visions of delightful "swimmins" swept over me. Then I thought of little sister and the sad sad time of my life, when she was taken away! I thought I heard her call my name, but felt sure this must be part of this most pleasant of dreams.

189. Behold my sister MARTHA! A beautiful girl stood before me. She said: "My dear brother, don't you know me?" "No." I said, "you cannot be little Martha? How strange ! You seem like her, but she is dead." "I am Martha," she replied — "do you not know that you are also dead?" (See figure 4).

190. "No." I said, " I feel sure I am not dead, but I don't care to awaken from this dream." I found however that I was dead; and I found also, that things would not be as pleasant for me as the place I was then in.

191. WAR IS WRONG — was never right, and those who aid and abet it, will have to suffer in proportion as they make others suffer.

192. I have been among a band of Helpers for years, trying to impress the so-called civilized people of earth that THEY MUST NOT INDULGE IN WARS; and that, at no time, is it right to take the lives of others for opinion's sake. Think of taking the lives of your brothers because you cannot agree over such trivial things as the border line of a state or country. And above all, do away with warfare in a country that has the opportunities to study the results as your country has.

193. The celebrations are only the lingering evidences of the savage as he beat on his tom-tom and stamped around in his war dance.

194. Patriotism is a sentiment too deep even for measuring with words. How then, shall you emphasize it by senseless noise. Let patriotism grow apace, with the growth of the nation you love; but with the passage of years let us hope to find your love of country assuming more moderate forms of expression which you adopt toward individuals you love. And at last, to find the receptive minds of children untutored in the direction of sky-rocket enthusiasm and gunpowder patriotism.

195. Let the loyalty of generations unborn be based more upon the sure footing of the intelligent approval and support of the principles of freedom and good government, and less upon the vain — glorious heralding of the wars of days gone by. Teach them that it is much better to suffer wrong than to be guilty of wrong doing. Might is not right, even though thousands have it for their motto.
(Signed) Edward HUGHES


...

One stood out saying:

210. I am Michael FARADAY. I am happy to meet you in this way again. Quite a while since I was here in the form before. I am doing what I can to make your undertaking a success. I find changes are taking place; that in less than five years there will be great changes — in climate, in people, but all things for the benefit of man.

211. Prof. DENTON reappears before the circle, takes and distributes the flowers to the different persons of the circle, walking about in the room and engaging in general social colloquy with the circle during the distribution. Then steps back to a point just in front of the parting of the cabinet curtains, and in very strong voice and elocutionary manner speaks as follows, to-wit:

(a) Friends, the circle is not quite full this evening, but the fact that several of you are here, notwithstanding the inclement weather, shows to us that, we yet have a few faithful co-workers on your earth, and this will be to your benefit. For you have but a few more years, at most, to remain in the physical condition, and the more knowledge you obtain of these things the better you will be prepared to progress when you reach the spirit side. Try to think of such things only as will elevate you. Try to have your souls filled with something good for yourself and for the world to know. Then try to be heard in someway. For you will have something good and useful to communicate to people who may be induced to listen.

212. The Little Ones! Think of them. Think how that, hour by hour, coming up from nature's depths, in one unceasing procession, the little ones arrive on the surface of your earth to load up their barques for eternity. Try to think what kind of material should go into those little barques to be borne out on the great ocean of endless life. Oh, if the people would try, would endeavor to enfold themselves in truth and thereby have the souls of those millions of little ones filled with truth, instead of error, what hallelujahs would resound among the spectators of the higher spheres.

(a) But stop and try to think how much of error and how little of truth is fostered among these little ones on earth today, as they struggle on for their rightful inheritance. What are the lessons upon the subject of WAR? (There may have been "war in heaven " — if so it was not a very high heaven — indeed, it must have been a very low heaven) The very first sounds the child hears in public are military notes, in honor of some war, some warrior, some one who has slain his thousands, and the child gets into your schools and military history is put into its hands. Your school histories, ancient and modern, and your Sunday School history — the Bible — much of it is also chronicles of wars, military exploits — all, both ancient and modern history, set up the great military heroes as the most worthy examples for the child to try to emulate, and all this creates the feeling of war and this feeling directs the will. AS LONG AS YOU EDUCATE FOR WAR and therefore have THE FEELING OF WAR, your will UNDER CONTROL OF THIS FEELING is for war, and thus long will you have war.

(b) Not until all this crowding the children's minds with the spirit of war is changed by instilling them with lessons of the practical life in the higher spheres, will there be a high grade of spirituality developed, generally, among the inhabitants of your world.

(c) Experience of all spheres teaches to be good — to be charitable; but most of those stuffed with your modern schooling know nothing of these things. I want to say to the people of earth that too much of their schooling is along mercenary lines, to prepare them for immediate felicity on entrance to spirit life or even for a high grade of earth life.

(d) Why, even the whole school — book business is the same way — for the money there is in it. The more books the schools take, the more profit for book stores, book makers, paper makers; hence, Legislatures are lobbied, school superintendents, school boards are lobbied and salted, if need be, to induce the adoption of books and frequent changes of text-books, and money and some sort of mercenary motive is found all along the line. But the needed experience to prepare the pupil for either your own world or the higher life, is not found a great deal in those books.

(e) Remember, friends, that it is the schooling of experience that finally makes the great souls of time and eternity, and that not much of the essential lessons of experience may be found in your school text-books of today.



S้ance No.11:
July 31, 1902

213. After the regular opening exercises and greetings of REED and DENTON, DENTON said: "There are many things to be learned which if you could know and understand you would be able to perceive that your earth is a stage upon which men and women try to play their part; but for the want of such knowledge and understanding, many pass to this side of life not having learned the one law that governs all, and have to finish the play here, which they commenced on earth; and this makes much work for philanthropic spirits on this side to do.

(a) I am glad that I passed out, although seemingly in the midst of my work on earth: For I am here, better able to work for the benefit of needy ones on both sides of life, and to help many that I could not have helped had I remained longer on earth.

(b) I was sent here to assist in this work; and when you come to this side, I will show you that, in our sphere, we have no strife, no jealousy — that in harmony does not reign, but all is peace and joy.

(c) Then after exhorting the circle to engage in moderate conversation while the operators would be doing their work this evening to call our minds from the work of the operators, Denton retired, backing into the cabinet, and as he did so,


214. The typewriter came forth in the arena, (R. V. 1170) and proceeded to take the dictation of EDMUND SCHELLHOUS as follows, to wit:

215. Dr. Reed has kindly requested me to report my observations in the study rooms of the higher spheres.

(a) All my earthly training had been along educational lines and it is only a natural consequence that after the novelty of being in a strange and interesting country began to lose its charm, my thoughts should return to the well known duties of earth; and with the desire to learn more, I began visiting the schools in spirit life. My brother will be able to realize how great the contrast was between the schoolhouses of earth and those of spirit life, when I tell him that instead of the crude little school-rooms I was accustomed to, were beautiful palaces that had no resemblance to the schools of earth, except the number of children gathered together.

(b) I expressed my surprise at their manner of teaching, and one of the instructors smiled, saying: "No. we do not teach at all as you did upon earth. You see, we do not have to train our little charges so they will be able to battle in a cold, cruel world, where greed and avarice are in the front ranks. Here, where people are not rated by dollars and cents, but by their own strength of character, we have no need for the systems of earth." I found other schools, where there were no children, — vast halls of learning, where the walls were lined with books, and huge cases of books stood everywhere. I thought the spirits studying these volumes so intently must be the wisest spirits in spirit life; but I was told that there were others farther advanced than they were.

(c) Since then, I have visited many schools and have stood for hours watching the instructors teach without the aid of books, making their thoughts clear to their pupils without words or symbols.

(d) Yet by far the most interesting thing I have witnessed in spirit life was the manner in which the astronomers in one of the observatories made the complicated calculations stand out in space. They did not use crayons of any sort, or even make the shape with their hands; yet the figures seemed to take shape from their thoughts and stand alone, as it were.

(e) The spirits at work here, were of all nationalities. It looked odd to see a Chinese in his native dress sitting by a stylish little Frenchman. Both were intent upon their studies, and did not interfere with each other. They tell me that a new planet will come within the reach of the telescopes of earth soon. I saw many things there that I am unable to explain to you. Some of these spirits have been here for hundreds of years. They have other work besides this. In fact, I find that all who progress in the spirit world must lend a helping hand to one another.

(f) You, who think that there are some things you can never forget or forgive, will find, when you reach this side of life that it will be as foolish to treasure up your grievances as it would be to treasure up the pranks of your playmates in your childhood. Your trials will look as insignificant to you, then, as your childish troubles to you now. Are not the sorrows of children just as keen as those of their elders? The only difference lies in their short duration. So it will be with the sorrows of earth when you view them in the light of an endless life, instead of by the scale of threescore years and ten."
(Signed) "Edmund SCHELLHOUS"



216. MICHAEL FARADAY, then took his position at the writing desk, took a tablet from the desk and searching for a pencil, found one in a few moments in the desk, and immediately, with great rapidity, wrote the following words, to-wit:

(a) Men and women spend too much time in theorizing, and not enough on simple matters of life and duty. The people of your world, doubtless, would be much happier, not only in the material life, but in the spirit life, if much more of their time was spent in formulating this divine truth.

(b) While you press out into the world and seek to solve the mysterious and the fundamental laws that govern and control your being, let nothing stand in your way of learning to know and solve the problems of life in the spiritual and material universe. Study how to keep from violating nature's laws. You are apt to let some one stand in your way of knowledge and listen to their opinions. Don't be a moral coward and allow others to do your thinking. Seek for the great truths that are all around you, and when you find a truth proclaim it to the world.

217. You will enter spirit life having no more (material wealth) than you entered earth life with. Better live the few short years of earth life in poverty, expending your time in developing the better part of you — the spirit. Neglect no material duty, however humble, as you must "burn all bridges behind you" and have no returning for unfinished duties, if you would be happy in the spirit world.

(a) Deceit, selfishness, and hypocrisy cannot furnish a cloak so thick that the keen eye of spirit cannot penetrate. Men and women who have traveled the thorny paths of earth life and shared each other's sorrows without a murmur, will be more richly rewarded than those who had all the world could give them, and their souls pent up in secret. The latter better class expect to enter spirit life with all conditions that they had in earth life; but to their sorrow they will find that the golden key is of no use in the world of truth. You must deal with the present as well as with the future. The use you make of the present time will determine, in a measure, the future.

(b) A knowledge of forces hitherto unknown will come to your world through just such channels as we are using tonight. A proper understanding of the simple forces in nature will prove to the so-called scientists the untruth of their exact science that they now deem incontrovertible.

218. Your earth was peopled in the ages gone by, by more intelligent people than any that now inhabit it. They left careful and painstaking records of all their achievements behind them, but these were lost in the dark ages that followed wars of conquest and natural disturbance. Their works are not lost; but still exist in the spirit spheres.

(a) Many of these spirits are endeavoring, at the present time, to reach the people of your earth, as they see in the disturbed condition of the earth inhabitants, both in the Eastern and Western Hemispheres, conditions that, if not modified, must result in their destruction. So long as oppression and war exist, just so long will the promised knowledge be withheld: For only when peace and harmony prevail can such knowledge be appreciated and put to its proper use.

219. Man must stop and consider that he is a spirit and can do much to help or hinder a spirit out of the earth body. In the end, the spirit out of the body will conquer, but the struggle may be a long and bitter one. These truths are within your reach. The masses are beginning to clamor for knowledge you cannot give. Then why not banish egotism and make conditions by which the higher spirits can enlighten the world. At present, many shrink from investigation for fear they will be called superstitious, as all manifestations from higher sources are deemed supernatural by the religious sects.

(a) They turn their faces from Truth's clear light and blindly grope back through the dark passages their forefathers traveled and vainly strive to stop the spirit of inquiry that grows in strength as the world finds the solution of many so-called mysteries.
(Signed) "Faraday"


AN ANCIENT CHALDEAN. Fig 5.

220. There came forth a very magnificent form, speaking in some unknown tongue, continuing at some length. Enough was manifest from the voice, manners, pantomime and an English word once in a while to indicate to the secretary that he was a Chaldean and was talking of the horrors of war that he had experienced; and when he had finished talking the circle requested him to ask some capable one to interpret the speech and immediately Red Feather, (B. V. 1017) said:

(a) He said he was an Ancient Chaldean; that he, when on earth, experienced war in all its awful horrors. He had seen shedding of blood of men, in mortal combat, to run in streams to the rivers and crimson the waters of large streams. Ages have gone by since that time and he has been an inhabitant of the beautiful realms of peace a great portion of this time; and yet, when he returns to earth, he is reminded of those scenes of human carnage.

(b) At an age when Chaldea thought she was great, she reached out with her armies and lost her scepter, and this is what she realized at last. Other nations did the same thing, and your world today, is rushing in the same mad, mercenary way; and as the peoples of the olden time did not realize what was coming to them, so beware now. But it is on the spirit side where the great consequences are found and experienced. In your admiration of those who conquered, the consequences are overshadowed, and we come down now, to plead with your world to learn the certainty of those consequences: For enjoyment of the higher life is far removed from human warfare."



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