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Date Posted: 11:04:06 01/21/09 Wed
Author: RichH
Subject: Re: AI/ Banding Question
In reply to: Question Asker 's message, "AI/ Banding Question" on 10:46:31 01/21/09 Wed

No set number as I understand it, depends on overall score of recruit class. How that is computed perhaps LFN can expain better than I

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[> Re: AI/ Banding Question -- LFN, 11:26:26 01/21/09 Wed

I talked about this at length in the following blog posting:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2008/11/sundays-words-ai.html

The short answer is that there's four bands down to the floor, which is 168 (and is NOT the same as the Ivy League's academic index - important to point this out).

Band I: 5 athletes
Band II: 14 athletes
Band III: 10 athletes
Band IV: 3 athletes

This risks oversimplifying it, though. I'd encourage you to read my original blog posting on this.

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[> [> Re: AI/ Banding Question -- Neighbor, 14:26:02 01/21/09 Wed

LFN,

I just read your A.I explanation at your site. Thank you. I must say, the whole endeavor makes my head spin. Also, it is certainly NOT a guarantee of the desired result.

As a now-retired public school teacher, I must agree with the fourth person to comment on your analysis. Any athlete's high school record is tough to compare with any other athlete and to any league school's expectation of what that record really represents. There is a HUGE difference between expectations at the private school level and at public schools. In some urban districts, like my previous employer, if a student merely BEHAVES in class, he/she can expect to receive a letter grade of at least B. Add in a little class participation and an A is very doable.

"Less concerned" recruiting schools would be wise to restrict their search to inner city high schools. High band kids (wink,wink) are all over the place in those schools. They might not graduate college, but if such a program can get 2-3 good athletic years out of them, so be it. Sad.

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[> [> [> Re: AI/ Banding Question -- LFN, 08:16:25 01/22/09 Thu

I understand what you're saying - that's why the Patriot League doesn't only weigh grades but also national tests like the SAT, which offer a more standardized look across the country. A kid from a school that you're describing with a 3.0 average will have that, but may not have the SAT's to make it into a Patriot League school. Furthermore, the admissions office can (and do, sometimes) also veto the admission - it's not like at, say, Ohio State, where the athletics department has the power to say whether a kid is in or out based on his ability.

The PL is different than the Big 10 or Big East, and the league's structure and AI is there to enforce the difference. I think the AI is a good way to do that.

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