Funny you should say that because I was reading on the EVS board (which is being slowly hacked) stuff about one of the PJ guys that I found to be really fucked up. It's like, whether any of us mean to do it or is conscious of it, we have our little ideas that these guys are perfect. Of course there comes the slap in the face that, no, in fact these guys aren't perfect or aren't the way we believe them to be and it's disappointing. It really shouldn't be because they're only human but somehow it's a letdown.