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Subject: Who Is to judge What Is "Necessary"? Author: Leah [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 06:17:03 06/14/09 Sun In reply to: Carol 's message, ""Unnecessary" Is The Word That Bothers People" on 23:21:45 06/12/09 Fri Here's the problem with the word "necessary" in when health care is taking place. We, the patients, are not really in a position to judge what is necessary. For example, if a woman goes to a caregiver for, say, a bad cough, she probably expects the caregiver to look in her throat and prescribe an antibiotic and that is all. The caregiver recognizes that the chest and back should be listened to with a stethoscope, so the woman may be asked to undress to the waist. The caregiver felt that this was "necessary". She thinks she was exposed needlessly. In the case of the shave described in the post above, theyoung lady evidently thought it was "necessary" for her view the entire field as she prepped the man for surgery. She probably believed she could better judge how far down towards the genitals she should shave, based on the amount of hair on the front of his body and its distribution. She was undoubtedly trained to do preps just that way. He, evidently, felt that she exposed more than "necessary". So, the concept of what is necessary" is dependent upon which side of the scene you are on, either as the patient or as the caregiver. Why not let the caregivers decide how to do the procedures? That's what they're trained to do. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Exactly. Let The Caregivers Do Their Jobs Their Way Author: Paula [Edit] Date Posted: 14:24:46 06/15/09 Mon Why are we trying to tell the caregivers how we think they should do their jobs. Let's grant that they know what they are doing. After all, we aren't the first patient they ever examined or did a specific procedure on. If we let them alone and stop second-guessing how they do things, we'll all be better off. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Exactly. Let The Caregivers Do Their Jobs Their Way Author: Mickey [Edit] Date Posted: 15:59:10 06/15/09 Mon Okay, Interesting perspective...but I have to question whether we are performing health care in the best interest of the patient. Paramount to any medical procedure is patient modesty...which almost always can be worked into an exam w/o limiting medical care..even testicular exams can be done with out complete exposure. When I hear comments like this...I see an arrogant medical provider..who has little regard or empathy for the patient. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]