jean the frenchie
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Date Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012, 02:50: pm
"Reb" : you are right with your comment about draft physicals. i think also that the nudity in a large group was not the main concern of the draftees during the Vietnam war, it was the war and the risks of being injured seriously or worse killed in Vietnam which was more important obviously.
It was the same in France during the algerian war where about 13 000 draftees were killed in several years.
I was too young at that time to be a draftee but I am convinced that the idea of being forced to report in front of the members of a draft board commission stark naked at 18 age as it was the rule was not the main concernfor them. They feared certainly to be send in Algeria more than to be exposed in the nude to a dozen members of the draft board board.
The question of the nudity and modesty could only be a real issue when it was a peace time for mandatory draft as in Germany in the recent years for instance or in all countries which were in peace.
It is true also that for some young men, may be not all, it could be less embarrassing to be naked in front of a lot of persons including some women, young and older, if they were not alone, but with a large group of guys all naked together. As you said, you had more to worry about other than having a woman see you naked, I understand your statement.
But you talked of several women at your own draft physicals, can you tell us a little more ?, if you kew who they were ? and why they were present?, what was their job ? or the reason of their presence ?
To illustrate what you said about the diffference between being naked in a group and being naked alone for an examination, I have noticed that in a german book where there was a lot of witnesses about draft physicals in the recent years since it was only in 2011 that the mandatory military service was abolished. Many german young men related their feeling of indignity at their examination in the nude in front of a female doctor assisted by one or two female nurses or secretaries while they were examined one by one alone in the exam room and not in group like it was some years ago.
So normally their privacy was even so best protected than before but they were apparently more shocked or humliliated by this kind of examination in front of two or three women.
To answer to "CFMN guy", you are right also: according to relation that I have read like you, it was very common in Russia and other eastern countries where there was still a mandatory military service with draft physicals that the draftees were all the time of the process in the nude even for check of idendity or eyes test or urine test and were eventually reporting in front of a draft member commission which seemed always being made up of a few women, not medical persons.
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