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Subject: Exam in front older sister


Author:
George
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Date Posted: Friday, July 20, 2012, 03:10: am

When I was 18 and my sister was 21 I went to short visit her in Germany where she lived. My sister hadn't seen me naked since I was about ten years old. When I was there I became quite ill and had to visit my sisters doctor. My sister had to come in with me as I spoke very little german. Almost immediately I had to strip to just my underwear to be examined by the female doctor. This was embarrassing as my sister was sitting only a few yards away. The doctor examined me but just as I thought it was over she suddenly pulled down my underpants. My sister could see everything and I could see that she was looking at my penis. As the doctor examined my balls and penis. I also started to get an erection which my sister had a full view of. I ended up completely naked in front of my sister for about five minutes and it was the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to me! Is it usual thing for teens in Germany?

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William
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 01:57: am

I was 15, my last year at school and I had gone over Germany as an exchange student. We were out shopping when I suddenly came down with serve stomach pains and I got taken to the local hospital. My German exchange-sister (she was 16 then) stayed outside and the doctor started to ask me about what was wrong. Up to that point I could only hold a simple conversation. He was getting frustrated, and I was getting more scared every time her raised his voice in frustration. My "sister" had to come in and translate. I had to lay there naked when he gave me a complete physical and I was so shy being so intimately examined in front of her. Thankfully it was an infection that could be treated with tablets and did not require a stay in hospital.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


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David
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Date Posted: Monday, July 23, 2012, 09:43: pm

It was 1989 and i was sent to the US as an exchange student. I was 16 and was planed to study a year in the local high school. i had a host family and their youngest son went to the same high school, different class though. a week before the first day of school the host family mom asked me to fill a medical examination form he got from the exchange program administrator. it was quite long and it took 10 or 15 minutes to complete. when we finished she said that the examination is due tomorow morning. what examination? i wasn't ready for it.
she so my surprise and said that i had to see the doc to sign this form so i can be admitted to school. ok, i didn't know what to say. i did say that i went through medical exam on entering the exchange program back home but she said it has nothing to do with school regulations.
so the next morning the host mom took me to their doc. the doc was an old pediatrician. i was expecting him to just look at me and sign the medical form. he had other ideas. he asked me to get undressed to my underwear. i felt strange and even a little angry because i was surprised so i asked if i had to and the host mom who was in the room said she was sorry but it's mandatory and let's get over it.. being a good boy, i did as i was told and stood before the doctor with my briefs only. he gave me a very detailed exam and at the end told me to lay on my back on the exam table. he palpated my abdomen and with one queek move, lowered my briefs to my knees and for 2-3 minutes palpated my testicles and my penis and even retracted my foreskin. the host mom (whom i really learned to like in the 10 days i've lived in her home) was watching it and i felt really embarrassed about it. it was over and the doc sign the form and we went back home. the strange feeling was to see the host mom for the next few days and to know she knew exactly what was going with me under my pants...

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[> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


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Marek
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 02:08: am

I had an exam as an exchange student in Russia once. It wasn't a surprise, cause I had been told before that there would be an exam in the receiving state, but it was still akward. My guest mum took me to some sort of polyclinic for it. In the exam room there was the female doctor (around 50 years old) and the nurse (in her thirties) sitting behind a table. First there was a lot of talking, done mostly by my guest mum as my Russian wasn't very good. Then I was told by the doctor to take all my clothes off. There was nothing to change behind, so I had to take all my clothes off in front of the three women. Then I had to do various exercises completely naked in front of them. Next the doctor came to me and started feeling my neck, joints, ect. Then I had to bent over for my spine to be checked. Then I was told to spread my bottom by hands and my anus was inspected. After that she told me to lie down on the exam table and she checked my feet and legs and so on and it felt like ages that I was lying there naked. Finally when I thought that that must have been it, she turned around to my guest mum and said something. My guest mum got up and came to the exam table and so did the nurse. The doctor then took my penis in her hand and rectracted my foreskin in full sight of my guest mum while she was explaining something about it to her. She moved the foresking forth and back once or twice and started feeling the shaft. My penis began to pulsate and became semihard. Then she took my testicles in her hand and felt them, while still the other two women watched and commented on it. When the doctor had finished she was still explaining something about "boys" and "hygiene" to my guest mother - and only after that I was finally allowed to put my clothes back on. My guest mum had two own sons (both were older than me) and I knew boy's body had no any secret parts for her but I was embarrassed enough then.

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[> Subject: It's Always Worse When It's Someone you Know


Author:
Thomas
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 09:07: am

The only one of the three scenes described by the posters above that could even be remotely justifiable is Marek's.
After all, he was a minor, and the woman they brought in was his host-mother, his temporary legal guardian during his stay in the country.

The other two scenes were unnecessary and unfair. Surely doctors and nurses realize that a stranger is much less embarrassing than someone we know or are related to. For the doctors to bring in William's foster sister, and
George's real sister, had to be the guys' most embarrassing experience of their lives. And it was probably just as embarrassing for the foster sister and the real sister, to be unexpectedly witnessing those examinations.

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[> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


Author:
John
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 10:06: am

When I had a physical as a teenager, 14, my sister came with me, because my mum was ill and asked her to go with me to the doc. She also came with me into the exam room and saw my exam - but this time it was my first full exam, so the doctor asked me to pull down my underpants. I saw my sister (19 years at that time) looking at my thing as I had lower my underpants and I got very hard. So I was standing there with a red face, the doctor feeling my fully erected penis, my scrotum and ass-hole and my sister sitting in front of me and looking at it interested - it was soo embarrassing

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[> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


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Albert
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 11:08: am

I grew up in an extremely puritanical family. My parents were such prudes that we were not even allowed to look through National Geographic because there might be a photo of a topless native in there. When I was 13 years old, I got a chance to go to summer camp. One of the requirements was that I needed to get a full physical exam. I had no idea what a full physical would include. For some reason, my mom and my sisters were present in the examining room to observe my full physical. Strangely enough, all previous visits to a doctor, I had been in the examining room alone with a male doctor. I had no idea that I would have to drop my pants in front of my mom and my sisters (and a female doctor). For somebody my age, who had never been naked in front of any female before, and had never seen a female naked (even in a photo), this would be quite an uncomfortable situation. When I was sitting there on the examining table, only wearing my white briefs, I was already quite uncomfortable in front of my mom and sisters. As the doctor went down the list of items to check, she finally came to an item near the bottom of the list. Up to this point, I thought that I was nearly finished and was about to get dressed. The doctor had to check for hernia. The doctor told me to stand up (at least I was standing sideways to my family members and my family members would not get a full frontal view) she pulled my briefs down to my knees, held her hand firmly behind my balls and told me to cough. As I glanced slightly sideways towards my family members I could see that my mom was looking directly towards my groin, expressionless, my little sister was trying to look away but had no way to do this as she had a full sight line (if anything my little sister looked even more embarrassed than I was) and my older sister looked directly at my groin with a sly smile. Even though I was no facing directly in front of my family members, it was humiliating enough and they could essentially see my private parts. The exam was quickly over, but I was quite embarrassed by this for over a year.

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[> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


Author:
Daniel
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 03:15: pm

Fortunately, despite extreme levels of embarrassment often accompnanied by total humiliation there has never been a single case of male genitals falling off during this kind of examination in front of females.
Au Contraire, there have been many, many examples, at least anecdotally, of those very same male components becoming engorged and erect.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


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Daniel
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 04:28: pm

When I was young and later into the teen years, mom often took us all at the same time for the annual school physical and sometimes my aunt came with my cousins so we would all be piled into the rear of the big Ford SW that my aunt drove for the ride to the doctor's office. I was the oldest and in our group never thought it strange that once in the exam room we were all told to remove everything and stand in a rough line by age, which put me first followed by my cousin Patty and the Kathy. I seem to recall that happening just about every year until my sister and cousin got to be about leven or twelve. Up to then we had always been bathed together one after another on Saturday nights before bed and in the hot summers ran around the yard in the sprinklers in drawers and panties which often got soaked and came off. At times there would be six or eight young kids playing on the back lawn mostly naked while my mom and my aunt as well as an occasional neighbor sat on the patio sipping whatever they sipped in those days, probably iced tea.
Then when I reached twelve and the two older girls became a little developed, they stayed dressed while the boys, my self and my younger brother and cousins, were disrobed, examined, dressed and sent outside to the waiting room. Sometimes Kathy stripped to her panties and bra while my brother and I were being examined but not always. If my cousin Irene came along for the ride and to help, she was older (About five years older) and never examined in our presence, but was in and out of the exam room at will regardless of who was being checked. So the boys were exposed in front of the older girls but, except for the youngest girls, not the reverse.
As far as I can recall my mom was in the room most of the time but never made any big thing about looking at me naked although Aunt Ronnie did and was usually at the doctor's side during the entire exams. It was just the way things were done and at the time I didn't think it unusual, after all, my sister had seen me naked for years. And while I didn't know much about female development or the workings of their bodies, I had realised that both Kathy and Patty's bodies changed and often they were allowed to stay home from school with "cramps." Menstrual cramps were never discussed in my presense and I do not recall putting two and two together for several more years until Kathy and I became more open about the things that affected each other.
Usually, I went first and as soon as the doctor was finished checkibng things out and making notes, I'd put my undershorts on and jeans while the younger kids were being done and sometimes I finished shirt and socks in the reception room. Once, for some reason right after my exam I was told to pick up my clothes and go out of the exam room before I had a chance to put anything on. I was still naked when I put my bunched up clothes on one of the chairs in the reception area and I began to get dressed in front of the next patients which included both genders.
There were two other moms and probably three or four kids, a couple of whom were my own age and it was obvious that they were watching me. At least the receptionist saw me standing there nude trying to put my legs into my tangled shorts without everyone seeing my privates and had me come behind the counter where she tried to help hold my undershorts so the leg holes were straight. Half the problem was that I had started to tear up from embarrassment and being about fifteen then, I didn't want anyone to see that either. I don't know if she was a nurse, but the idea of her seeing my penis naked while she held the jockey shorts open properly wasn't as embarrassing.
For some reason her voice was soothing and perhaps she was old enough for me to assume she was a mom herself and possibly had her own boys.

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Alex
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 04:58: pm

Daniel,
I can imagine how humiliating it would be when you are sent to the reception naked and putting back your clothes in front of the other kids and moms. Why did the doc do that? You were the oldest and at least that should be respected. What age were you at that moment?
Your story is an example of double standard in paedatric practice. I thing almost all males had experience of such double standard, rare one to such an extreme.

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Daniel
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 06:01: pm

Alex wrote;
" .... Daniel,
I can imagine how humiliating it would be when you are sent to the reception naked and putting back your clothes in front of the other kids and moms. Why did the doc do that? You were the oldest and at least that should be respected. What age were you at that moment?
Your story is an example of double standard in paedatric practice. I thing almost all males had experience of such double standard, rare one to such an extreme. ...."


Well, first, I should have changed the topic name to; ".... Exam in front a younger sister ...."
Second, it was my mom or my aunt who said that I should gather my clothes and things and wait outside. I had been leaning over the exam table as the doctor had felt inside my heiney, something totally unexpected and one of them was wiping the vasoline away so I was totally unprepared. It was when I was just about twelve, the year after I had a major impetaigo infection all over my behind and groin, so the doctor had examined that area very closely, and explained what he was doing to my mom and aunt as he spread the cheeks apart. Patricia is the next oldest, about nine months younger than me and Kathleen came about four months later. And both girls saw the whole male exam including the anal probe and hernia check although I had no idea why that ws being done at that age. A few days later when mom was not present they teased me about what they had seen. So that is why it should be about having an exam in full view of a younger sister (and cousin).
All I recall is mom suddenly handing me my clothes and shoes and either she or my aunt saying to get dressed outside in the waiting area.
In all fairness, I believe that when we had gone into the exam room there may not have been any other patients waiting in the reception room. So when I stumbled out and went to the first chair I was initially not aware that there were others there, I was just dropping socks and drawers to the floor and bending over to pick things up when I heard a sound from across the room behind me. I recall being horrified at first because up to that point I hadn't made any big attempt to cover up or be careful when I bent all the way over to reach between the chairs to retreive my drawers from where they had slid down, meaning that the woman and her daugher who were just about straight behind me had a good view of my behind and then the front when I turned about.
I do not know if my mom would have handled things differently had she known or suspected there would be others waiting to be seen. But I suspect not, as the whole thing seemed to be related to preventing me from seeing the girls disrobe and be examined on the table while no one cared if the rest of the town saw me exposed at all.

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Mrs.Judy.Love
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 08:44: pm

Daniel I meet many guys when I was single who had no balls.........

Had I incorrectly judged them ?

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Daniel
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Date Posted: Monday, July 23, 2012, 07:54: pm

I don't know, Mrs J, what made you feel that way ?

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[> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


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Miles
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 09:41: pm

I would not worry too much. As a child in the 60's I was raised by a single mother and she would accompany both my older sister (2 yrs) and myself to the doctor for our annual physicals. Every year it was the same, I would have to strip off everythin in front of my mother and sister while my sister was allowed to keep her panties on. It only became a little embarrassing when I turned about 11 but my mother was still bathing me at the time as well as my sister so we really didn't make a big deal about it. I said something to my mother and she said she wanted to make sure that my sister and I were developing correctly. About the time I was 13 or 14, there were a bunch of changes and as you can imagine I started to want privacy and my mother was no longer bathing me. I went to my next physical and when I took off my underwear the nurse commented that I was reaching puberty as I was growing pubic hair and my penis was developing. Then when my sister took off her cloths the nurse remarked that she was starting to develop as well. That was the first time I noticed that my sister was developing breasts. T was about then that the nurse came back and gave my sister a gown and told me I could put my underwear back on until the DR came in. Anyway as the exam progressed and we were weighed and BP was taken etc. I was starting to feel a bit uncomfortable. When it came time for the hernia and outside anal exam I felt my self getting an erection (I did not know what it was at the time)I remember my mother commented to the DR that it was cute that I was getting an erection. I was actually mortified that it happened(it is not something you can control at that age). Anyway, I should mention that the DR was a female as well and she did her best to calm me down but it was pretty horrifying having an erection in front of everyone. That was the last time I had a physical with my mother and sister in the room.After that the only time my mother came in during my exam was when I was in a sport accident during my junior year of HS and was hit in the groin and I had to go to the dr to get checked out. She came in during the exam to make sure I was alright and did not have any permanent damage.After all of this, I just wanted to say that I have always been comfortable at the DR's office because growing up my mother and even sister were always there and I felt secure.I know mother was there to protect me and to make sure I was growing up correctly.

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Daniel
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Date Posted: Monday, July 23, 2012, 08:15: pm

Plus, most Doctors and nurses are intimidated by the recent HIPPA laws which require not just confidentiality of medical records but require that privacy is a part of the whole medical senario.
The actual Law refers to the privacy of data collected and information security, but if I understaood several opinions by legal eagles that were passed around a few years ago, physical exposure of a patient to a non-authorised observer could be considered allowing the observer to see something whach is raw data.
For instance, I have a scar on my chest from a previous surgery and anyone seeing it then knows something about my medical history.
Thus, in an abundence of caution, modern health care providers are extra sensitive about a patient's physical privacy, lest a complaint be filed that would at the least be a part of their records.
Personally I think the whole thing has gotten way out of proportion, but then that's just me.

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not quite
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Date Posted: Monday, July 23, 2012, 09:19: pm

Privacy provisions of HIPAA apply to "protected health information", which only covers certain information that could be personally identifiable, i.e., not what you're talking about. AFAICT there are no laws pertaining specifically to a patients so-called physical privacy. OTOH, if a doctor does not follow de facto standards for protecting such, there are plenty of malpractice lawyers who could spin that for a jury.

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[> Subject: Re: Exam in front older sister


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Mrs.Judy.Love
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 10:01: pm

I know in the past pre nineteen eighty's for children under ten or eleven to be examined in the presents of children of the opposite sex was somewhat common. Back at that time many doctors worked out of private offices in the classic country family doc style. Group physicals in schools was considered a natural part of growing up.

Most raised during that period will likely have some minimal experience of girls present during a boys physical. Or a girl shirtless in the presence of boys.

Today we have multiple practitioner medical practices and mass production medicine,sometimes you don't even get the same doctor twice. School group examinations have become not more than listening to ones heart on lungs throw a T-shirt.Some do not even require a physical or preform hernia exams.A simple waver form signed by a parent covers the school legally.

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Jack
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 05:59: am

Back in the sixties and seventies it was certainly no big deal for boys and girls up to ten to see each other in just underpants at school.
For PE lessons in elementary school we all changed together in class. We simply took off all our clothes except underpants and changed into PE kit, which was just white shorts and T-shirt for both boys
and girls.
I see that things have
changed a lot since then. I
see kids going to school in tracksuits when they have
PE on that day, so that they won't have to change or even show a leg for PE.

With our over-prudishness and instilling of fear we aren't letting kids grow up as kids.
I am glad that I grew up in that tea, because we enjoyed our childhood and the innocent time, and the freedom.
I really pity today's kids who have to grow up under such pressures and restrictions.

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