jean the frenchie
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Date Posted: Friday, October 05, 2012, 05:40: am
"Peter " I was never in an elementary school which was mixed but I presume that if it would have been the case, boys and girls would have been treated the same at school physicals and may be not separated because under the end of elementary school, about 11 age, it was not really an issue at least in the opinion of adults in charge of the school and physicals and most of the parents.
Now I presume that it would be different but for the both gendes and it is a little ridiculous to be so concerned by the modesty of so little children at least until 8 or 9 age. Anyway, at mixed elementary school, I presume that even now boys and girls are changing together in the same room for PE lessons. Of course it will never happen in middle and high school and anyway no students is undressing naked in front of others.
At home in the past for such kids,if there was boys and girls, the bath was generally given by the mother without privacy and it seems absolutely normal to be exposed to the view of the persons present and of course it was the same at a doctor's office with the mother present for the examination of both of the children, a daughter and a son.
Nevertheless, it is true that some doctors were more strict about nudity for boys than for girls, so a sister could have more opportunity to see her brother in the nude than the reverse.
The issue began really after the elementary school when a son began to be pre-pubescent and unfortunately for him, his modesty was not often respected more.
It was often related in accounts that the nurse, the doctor ore the mother thought to make him go out of the room of examination when it was the turn of her sister to be examined and it was right and fair to do that but they did not think that the same might be done for his examination which sometimes took place in front of a younger or an older sister.
Why? may be because the nurse was a woman and very often the doctor too and they did not mind to the modesty of boys and it was a fact of society that boys would not be so modest as girls because it was not a good male attitude if they wanted to become real men. Many adults persons were thinking like that in the past.
Anyway you are right to say that today, it was unlikeky to happen that children are examined in the full nude at a pediatrician's office while it was frequent in the past. The attitude of doctors towards the nudity of children or students is very different.
As regards "John", if it was only until 12 age, it is not so much a big deal.
As regards "jas" account, I consider that you were in a certain way responsible of your exposure, you were not enough cautious and you could have closed the door before pulling off your underwear or more simple keep your underwear even if it was wet and it was not pleasant to wear it. It is a perfect illustration of what many adults were thinking about boys : "they are less mature than girls at the same age".
Nobody can be blamed for your exposure, except may be the doctor who would have thought to wipe your buttocks before leaving.
As regards "Daniel" it is different, your mother and aunt were obviously in favor of double standard but it was not uncommon in the past. If you were examined until 14 age naked in front of your mother, aunt, and sister or cousin, it was not fair for you since you began to be too older to be exposed to the view of all these persons and your mother might have noticed that it was unfair when she heard your sister teasing you about the fact that she had seen you in the nude.
but I have not weell understood your relation.
I have understood that until 11 or 12 age all the children including girls were naked all together in the exam room or even in the waiting room (?) and that after that age you were examined first and they told you to return in the waiting room while your sister was examined and that it hapened when your sister was still younger than you, so the modesty of your sister was sooner protected.
But does it mean that after 12 age when you were examined first in the exam room, your sister was still present as when you were both younger?
And as regards the situation when you were told by your mother to go out of the examination room still naked to go in the receptionist area to dress again, it was unfair because you were exposed to many persons while it never happened to your sister to be forced to dress again in that public area but it seemms that you were still very young since you needed the help of the receptionist to dress again, you were not older than 10 age ?
anyway, it was not fair and not very necessary to tell you to leave immediately before being dressed the room examination even to win time or at least your mother could have told you to pull on your brief before sending you out in the reception room, but you could have thought to do it by yourself, so it was an other proof of the fact that boys were a long time immature.
And why you did not go in the waiting room as before in your relation?
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