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Date Posted: 08:39:02 06/24/02 Mon
Author: Kate
Subject: Re: My position
In reply to: Werrf 's message, "My position" on 17:38:44 06/23/02 Sun


>I don't like RPF. The way I see it, if someone wrote
>a story about me, telling the story of how I went to a
>bar, picked up another man and slept with him, I'd
>feel offended, disgusted, violated, and lots of other
>bad things ending in -ed. So I just don't feel
>comfortable being part of a group that condones and
>helps the spread of such things.
>
>Pro: It's only a recommendation.
>
>My answer: It helps spread something I find repugnant.
> It may be 'only a recommendation', but it's still
>helping it spread. A recommendation for a site that
>shows pictures of children being raped is still
>helping such sites proliferate.

I really highly doubt that a recommendation holds such weight in the world.

I mean, I could recommend that everyone who seems to have such a bug up their ass about this go take some valium and settle the fuck down 'cause it ain't doing anyone harm, but it's just a recommendation. Is anything doing that? No. Obviously.

A recommendation is just that. One person likes it, suggests to another person that they check it out. It's up to the other person to decide FOR HIM/HERSELF if s/he wants to. It's not up to your mommy. It's not up to listowners. It's up to YOU. And if you can't handle that responsibility, then maybe you should go back to a place where you don't have to make those decisions.

>I don't like RPF. I wouldn't like it if it was me, so
>I can't support it if it's someone else.

And that's your opinion, which is entirely valid as your opinion.

My opinion is that RPF is just what it says -- FICTION. It can't be an invasion of privacy because IT'S NOT REAL.

If people were writing stories that they knew to be false and passing them off as true (as in, say, The National Enquirer or any particular good tabloid paper), then that would be an invasion of privacy. That would be libel.

But no one is saying these stories are true. No one is even remotely trying to pass off these stories as true.

Fiction. And if said fiction takes place in the Buffy universe, as the stories we were attempting to recommend were, then, well, it's the same as other BtVS fiction. Just another genre to be recommended on a list devoted to recommending all forms of Buffy fiction.

It doesn't matter what the content is -- it's people recommending stories that take place in the Buffy universe. So, yeah, if you're told "Well, you can recommend any story in the Buffy universe, except for those, 'cause those are WRONG," then, yes, it IS a freedom of speech issue.

You think they're wrong. I don't think they are. Who are you to tell me that I shouldn't recommend them?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: My position -- Amatia, 09:31:20 06/24/02 Mon

Regarding the libel/slander issue, RPF is actually less of a legal issue than actual tv or movie-based fanfiction. Speaking STRICTLY from the legal standpoint, RPF is not illegal because the fiction is normally adamntly disclaimed as _fiction_, whereas BtVS fic is infringing on a copyright.

As Kate said, no one is passing off fan_fiction_ to be true, and if anyone has, most of the RPF/RPS community hasn't heard about it.


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