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Date Posted: 21:47:22 07/10/02 Wed
Author: Jonathan
Subject: Re: TV Free
In reply to: Stefanie 's message, "Re: TV Free" on 19:00:42 07/08/02 Mon

I think as they get more realistic it's certainly a problem. There are joysticks that jiggle and stuff, who knows what they'll do in the future. And they've been using these plastic guns to shoot things on the screen for years. The other thing is if you go to an arcade they have things like motorcycles to sit on, and that can get sort of realistic. I wouldn't want to be around someone who's been playing one of those games and then 5 minutes later gets in the car and drives somewhere. But some games, (more on the computer?) like Sim City aren't violent at all, and you can actually learn things from them.


While movies are guilty sometimes of everything T.V. is, like stereotypes, their bills aren't paid solely by advertising, I think that means they're less limited in what they do, and they have less of the wrong things influencing the nature of the movie. And there are foreign films and independent films that I think are just fine.






>I think violent video games have more potentially
>harmful effects as they become more realistic. I
>wonder where the realism will stop- will they develop
>gloves that make someone feel as if they are really
>strangling another person?
>
>Also, I guess I tend to see movies as large format tv;
>although I am interested in documentaries (though
>rarely see them). I am fascinated with current events
>in the world though- there is so much happening now,
>but I tend to satiate my appetite through radio &
>surfing news sites on the web.
>
>>Assurance of others that aren't codependent on T.V. is
>>pretty much the same reason I made this board. I know
>>a few people off the net that don't watch much, but I
>>thought I'd try this too and see what happens.
>>
>>I think it's boring, but actually what really worries
>>me is I think people forget that T.V. is a rather
>>skewed version of the world. It's an easy way to get
>>information, but it's just an industry the goal is to
>>make money, it's not meant to be realistic.
>>
>>I think women are missing the substance of a big
>>problem, in how the media overwhelms them with
>>mentally and physically unhealthy images of who
>>they're expected to be. It causes men to start having
>>the same expectations I think, though since we aren't
>>the subject matter we can still sort of ignore it a
>>little. I think T.V. has a tendency to simplify and
>>stereotype everything, and there's a stereotyped idea
>>of what men are supposed to be as well that's not
>>good. But naturally, most of the media doesn't help us
>>out on these issues. I'm on the last few pages of a
>>book by Susan Bordo that talks about this sort of
>>thing a lot, the whole book was really impressive.
>>
>>
>>I agree with you about kids and violence too. Cartoons
>>are pretty violent, and I'm not sure they bother me as
>>much, I don't think they try to pretend they're
>>representing real life. They use animals instead of
>>people half the time. But that might be outdated, I
>>haven't seen many cartoons recently.
>>
>>Do you think video games are a bad influence? In
>>general they don't really bother me much. I think
>>movies are maybe marginally better too, I think a
>>little more thought goes into some of them.
>>
>>
>>Thanks for posting, it was interesting to hear from
>>you.
>>
>>
>>>Thank you for creating a discussion group for those
>>>that aren't codependent on TV. I found a link to
>your
>>>discussion board on turnoffyourtv.com (which I
>>>occasionally turn to for assurance that there is at
>>>least one other person out there that recognizes how
>>>degrading and violent tv can be). I've been tv-free
>>>for approx 17 years.
>>>
>>>Personally, I find tv extremely boring and can't
>>>imagine having so much expendable time in my life
>that
>>>I would want to donate it to something so mindless &
>>>offensive. I think women have taken a giant step
>>>backwards in society through the medias ever present
>>>portrayal of them as objects. Hollywood appears to
>be
>>>raising a whole generation of girls on the idea that
>>>for a woman to be successful and admired in life she
>>>should disrobe as much as possible. Isn't that what
>>>all of the popular actresses and musicians (Brittany
>>>Spears, etc) do on tv and in the movies?
>>>
>>>Also, should we find it surprising that children
>shoot
>>>each other without thinking twice about it? They see
>>>it all the time on tv. Cool guys with tatoos,
>>>muscles, and a cigarette in mouth shoot people on
>tv.
>>>What they don't see is reality of life behind bars
>>>afterwards or the mourning that a family goes through
>>>as a result of such actions. If tv ever tried to
>>>portray this, I'm sure they would give it about 10
>>>seconds at most.

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