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Date Posted: 18:33:33 03/19/08 Wed
Author: Sara R
Subject: Re: breeding
In reply to: Lee 's message, "Re: breeding" on 19:11:51 03/18/08 Tue

If your females are pregnant and they'll all have the same grandsire on top and bottom then you definately need to discuss with JB Vegter's temperment etc... good and bad because what you are basically doing is doubling up on everything which means everything is more pronounced...meaning if you have a dog who's a little defensive or shy then what you'll very likely get is puppies who are shy or defensive times two. I know Vegter is a good stud but you have to take his bad traits and also multiply them at this point. You have to also go and research the Dams of each of your females, if they are prego. and learn what she has produced, how, if at all, she may be related to Vegter etc... Learning that before the pups are born will help you better determine what kind of homes you can place them into. You can also better determine what behavior problems you'll need to work on before the pups are even placed etc...

IF your females are pregnant I suggest you do your best to find a VERY responsible breeder who could possibly point you in the right direction to learn about the lines you'll have behind your pups as well as which lines are going to have that doubling up on due to the Vegter grand sire etc... This breed has had a rough time of it and so many people are very concerned with outcomes of breedings etc... Nobody wanted to see them in rescue and we have seen a lot...nobody wanted to see dogs sick and we have some things cropping up from entropian (look it up, best way to learn), Prolapse, and even down to Wobblers which are all problems that cause the quality of life of the dog afflicted with them to be lower than healthy dogs. Demo has cropped up as well and this is a problem Pit Bull breeders are fighting with and because of the ammount of un-educated breeders out there the problems just keep growing. People are going to be nasty when it comes to this stuff...just understand though, that everyone learns and aside from the bruises from being kicked around you are learning and while many people are publically bashing you, there are breeders out there who can and will be happy to probably help you learn from this mistake and help you understand the impact that breeding has on your life as well as the dogs' so that you can decide if this is something you really want to continue doing, and doing responsibly...IMO if you chose to breed responsibly after this accident...I'd figure you would not have another litter for at least three or so years while you research the breed and learn it's history and it's future.

Everyone here is concerned for the dogs...angry that more may be produced by in-experience and it's a lot easier to type stuff out that's nasty than it is to actually say so it'll be meaner than most people are in real life.

Please learn more about the breed and if your females are pregnant do not be afraid to ask questions of some of the more helpful breeders who'd stepped up here or possibly who have emailed you regarding this issue.

Sara

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