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Date Posted: 00:15:22 02/25/03 Tue
Author: Chervyak
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In reply to: Àäìèí 's message, "ÖÅÍÒÐ ÐÎÑÑÈÈ. ÌÓÑÓËÜÌÀÍÅ ÑÎÑÒÀÂËßÞÒ ×ÅÐÍÛÅ ÑÏÈÑÊÈ." on 13:15:44 02/21/03 Fri

À ìîæåò âû ñîñòàâèòå ñïèñêè êîòîðûå ïîëîæèòåëüíû äëÿ âàøèõ öåëåé?
Íàïðèìåð âû óïîìèíóëè Òêà÷åâà. Êàêèå çàêîíû îí ïðèíÿë è êàêèå îí õîòåë áû ïðèíÿòü ñóäÿ èç åãî âûñêàçûâàíèé. Íàïðèìåð åãî âçãëÿäû íà èììèãðàöèþ è íà ýêîíîìèêó- ÷òî îí ïîýòîìó ïîâîäó îáåùàë êîãäà èçáèðàëñÿ è ÷òî îí âûïîëíèë? Ïðèíàäëåæèò ëè îí ê êàêîé òî ïàðòèè? Íàâåðíîå åùå áîëåå èíòåðåñíî ñïèñîê ñåíàòîðîâ è êàêèå èõ âçãëÿäû.
>Ðàçâå íóæíû êîììåíòàðèè?
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>http://www.izvestia.ru/community/article30381
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>ÍÅÂÅÐÍÛÅ
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> Ðîññèè ìóñóëüìàíå íà÷àëè ñîñòàâëÿòü ÷åðíûå ñïèñêè
>âðàãîâ èñëàìà
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>• Àëåêñàíäð ÁÎÃÎÌÎËÎÂ, Ñåðãåé ÐÀÑÎÂ, Àëåêñåé ÓÊÊÎÍÅ,
>Âèêòîð ÔÈËÈÏÏÎÂ, Ïåòðîçàâîäñê - Âîëîãäà - Ìîñêâà
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>Òåìû äíÿ:
> • Ðîññèÿ ãîòîâà îáúåäèíèòüñÿ ñ Åâðîïîé ïðîòèâ ÑØÀ
> • Öåíà âîéíû â Èðàêå. Ñöåíàðèé è ïðîãíîçû
> • Èñëàì â Ðîññèè. ×åðíûå ñïèñêè âðàãîâ
> • Ýêñïåðèìåíò. Ìîñêîâñêèõ «ìàæîðîâ» îòïðàâèëè â
>ãëóõóþ äåðåâíþ
> • Â Ìîñêâå â ñâÿçè ñ ïîáåãîì îñîáî îïàñíîãî
>ïðåñòóïíèêà, ðàññòðåëÿâøåãî ñâîèõ êîíâîèðîâ, ââåäåí
>ïëàí "Âóëêàí-5".
> • Âåðíóòüñÿ íà ãëàâíóþ ñòðàíèöó
> • Îôèñíàÿ ìåáåëü >>>
> • Îôèñíàÿ ìåáåëü â ñàëîíàõ ÞÍÈÒÅÊÑ. >>>
> • Ïëàíåòà - ìåáåëü äëÿ äîìà è îôèñà >>>
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>Ðîññèéñêèå ìóñóëüìàíå íà÷èíàþò ñîñòàâëÿòü "÷åðíûå
>ñïèñêè" ïîëèòèêîâ, ÷èíîâíèêîâ è æóðíàëèñòîâ, êîòîðûå
>"ïëîõî îòíîñÿòñÿ ê èñëàìó". Êîððåñïîíäåíòàì "Èçâåñòèé"
>óäàëîñü âûÿñíèòü, ÷òî â Êàðåëèè ýòè ñïèñêè óæå
>îïóáëèêîâàíû, â Âîëîãîäñêîé îáëàñòè ãîòîâÿòñÿ ê
>ïå÷àòè. Ê íåäðóãàì Àëëàõà ïðè÷èñëÿþò
>âèöå-ãóáåðíàòîðîâ, äåïóòàòîâ, âûñîêîïîñòàâëåííûõ
>÷èíîâíèêîâ, ðàáîòíèêîâ ïðîêóðàòóðû, æóðíàëèñòîâ.
>Ïîâîäîì ìîãóò ñòàòü æóðíàëèñòñêîå ðàññëåäîâàíèå,
>ïðîòèâîäåéñòâèå ñòðîèòåëüñòâó ìå÷åòè èëè ïðîñòî
>íåäîñòàòî÷íîå âíèìàíèå ê ìíåíèþ ìóñóëüìàí. Ñîñòàâèòåëè
>ñïèñêîâ óâåðåíû, ÷òî èõ ðàáîòà ïîìîæåò ïðàâîâåðíûì
>ðàñïîçíàòü íåäðóãîâ ðåëèãèè. Âïðî÷åì, áîëüøàÿ ÷àñòü
>ðîññèéñêèõ ìóñóëüìàí ñ÷èòàåò ïîäîáíóþ ïðàêòèêó íå
>ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåé äóõó Êîðàíà. À â Ãåíïðîêóðàòóðå
>îáåùàþò äàòü äåéñòâèÿì ìóñóëüìàíñêèõ ëèäåðîâ ïðàâîâóþ
>îöåíêó.
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>Äóõîâíîå óïðàâëåíèå ìóñóëüìàí Êàðåëèè îïóáëèêîâàëî â
>ñâîåé áåñïëàòíîé ãàçåòå "Ïðÿìîé ïóòü" ñïèñîê
>ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ äåÿòåëåé, ÷èíîâíèêîâ è æóðíàëèñòîâ,
>ïðîÿâèâøèõ "ñêëîííîñòü ê èñëàìîôîáèè".  "÷åðíûé
>ñïèñîê" ïîïàëè áûâøèé ìèíèñòð âíóòðåííèõ äåë Êàðåëèè,
>ðóêîâîäèòåëü îäíîãî èç ïîäðàçäåëåíèé ÌÂÄ, ðóêîâîäèòåëü
>êàðåëüñêîé îðãàíèçàöèè "ßáëîêî", çàìåñòèòåëü ìèíèñòðà
>ïå÷àòè, ñîòðóäíèê Ãîñêîìèòåòà ïî íàöèîíàëüíîé ïîëèòèêå
>è íåñêîëüêî æóðíàëèñòîâ - âñåãî 10 ÷åëîâåê. Àêóëû ïåðà
>íå óãîäèëè àâòîðàì ýòîãî "äîêóìåíòà" ïóáëèêàöèÿìè, â
>êîòîðûõ ðàññìàòðèâàëèñü ñâÿçè ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé
>ìóñóëüìàíñêèõ íàðîäîâ ñ êðèìèíàëüíûì ìèðîì. Ïîëèòèêè è
>÷èíîâíèêè ïîïàëè â ñïèñîê çà íåãàòèâíîå îòíîøåíèå ê
>ïðîåêòó ñòðîèòåëüñòâà ìå÷åòè â Ïåòðîçàâîäñêå.
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>- Òàêèì îáðàçîì ìû ïðîñòî ñîîáùàåì íàøèì åäèíîâåðöàì,
>êòî ýòè ëþäè, - ïîÿñíèë "Èçâåñòèÿì" ìóôòèé Äóõîâíîãî
>óïðàâëåíèÿ ìóñóëüìàí Êàðåëèè Âèñàì Àëè Áàðäâèë. - Ìû
>íå ïðèçûâàåì èõ êàê-òî íàêàçûâàòü èëè ïðèìåíÿòü
>íàñèëèå. Âàæíî, ÷òîáû ëþäè çíàëè, êîãäà ê íèì ïðèõîäèò
>äåïóòàò èëè æóðíàëèñò, ÷åãî îò íåãî îæèäàòü. Ëþäè, íà
>êîòîðûõ ìû îáðàòèëè âíèìàíèå, íàñòðàèâàþò íàñåëåíèå
>ïðîòèâ ìóñóëüìàí.
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>Îäíèì èç ïðîòèâíèêîâ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà ìå÷åòè, ïîïàâøèì â
>"÷åðíûé ñïèñîê", îêàçàëñÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëü êàðåëüñêîé
>îðãàíèçàöèè îáúåäèíåíèÿ "ßáëîêî" Àëåêñàíäð ×àæåíãèí.
>Íî åãî îòíîøåíèå ê ïðîåêòó áûëî âûçâàíî íå
>êîíôåññèîíàëüíîé ïðèíàäëåæíîñòüþ õðàìà, à ëè÷íîñòÿìè
>òåõ, êòî ïðåäëàãàë åãî ñòðîèòü.
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>- Ó íåêîòîðûõ èç íèõ íå áûëî ðîññèéñêîãî ãðàæäàíñòâà,
>- óòâåðæäàåò ×àæåíãèí. - Íåïîíÿòíî, êàêîâû èñòî÷íèêè
>ôèíàíñèðîâàíèÿ òîé îáùåñòâåííîé îðãàíèçàöèè, êîòîðóþ
>îíè ïðåäñòàâëÿþò. Ïî÷åìó ìû äîëæíû áûëè èì äîâåðÿòü? Ó
>íàñ åñòü äðóãîé êðóïíûé ìóñóëüìàíñêèé öåíòð -
>Òàòàðñêîå îáùåñòâî, è ñ íèì ó ìåíÿ âñåãäà áûëè î÷åíü
>õîðîøèå îòíîøåíèÿ.
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>Ñàì ôàêò ñîñòàâëåíèÿ ïîäîáíûõ ñïèñêîâ è ïóáëèêàöèþ èõ
>â ïðåññå ×àæåíãèí ñ÷èòàåò ðàçæèãàíèåì ìåæðåëèãèîçíîé
>âðàæäû, ïîäïàäàþùèì ïîä äåéñòâèå Óãîëîâíîãî êîäåêñà.
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>- Ïåðâûé ðàç îá ýòîì ñëûøó, - ñîîáùèëà "Èçâåñòèÿì"
>ñòàðøèé ïîìîùíèê ïðîêóðîðà ðåñïóáëèêè Òàòüÿíà
>Êîðäþêîâà. - Åñëè òàêèå ôàêòû èìåþò ìåñòî, òî îíè
>òðåáóþò ïðîâåðêè.
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>Ñâîé "÷åðíûé ñïèñîê" ñîñòàâëÿþò è âîëîãîäñêèå
>ìóñóëüìàíå. Îí ïîêà íå îïóáëèêîâàí, íî èçâåñòíî, ÷òî â
>íåãî âîøëè èìåíà âûñîêîïîñòàâëåííûõ ìåñòíûõ
>÷èíîâíèêîâ, êîòîðûå, ïî ìíåíèþ ÷ëåíîâ ìåñòíîé
>ìóñóëüìàíñêîé îáùèíû, ïðîòèâîäåéñòâîâàëè ñòðîèòåëüñòâó
>ìå÷åòè â ãîðîäå.  ÷èñëå "âðàãîâ èñëàìà" îêàçàëèñü
>âèöå-ãóáåðíàòîðû Èâàí Ïîçäíÿêîâ è Âëàäèìèð Êàñüÿíîâ,
>ñîòðóäíèêè âîëîãîäñêîé ìýðèè è îáëàñòíîé ïðîêóðàòóðû.
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>- Â îáëàñòíîé è ãîðîäñêîé àäìèíèñòðàöèÿõ íà âñå íàøè
>ïîïûòêè íàëàäèòü êîíñòðóêòèâíûé äèàëîã ñëåäóåò îòêàç,
>- ðàññêàçàë "Èçâåñòèÿì" èìàì âîëîãîäñêîé ìå÷åòè Íàèëü
>Õàçðàò. - Ñîâñåì íåäàâíî âåñü èñëàìñêèé ìèð îòìå÷àë
>ãëàâíûé ïðàçäíèê ìóñóëüìàí Êóðáàí-áàéðàì. ß îáðàòèëñÿ
>ê âèöå-ãóáåðíàòîðó Âëàäèìèðó Êàñüÿíîâó ñ ïðîñüáîé
>âûäåëèòü íàì ãàçåòíóþ ïëîùàäü â îôèöèàëüíîé îáëàñòíîé
>ãàçåòå "Êðàñíûé Ñåâåð". Ìû õîòåëè ðàññêàçàòü, ÷òî ýòî
>çà ïðàçäíèê, êàê ìóñóëüìàíå Âîëîãäû ãîòîâÿòñÿ ê íåìó.
>Íî Êàñüÿíîâ îòêàçàëñÿ. À êîãäà ðàçãîðåëñÿ êîíôëèêò
>èç-çà ñòðîèòåëüñòâà ìå÷åòè, äðóãîé âèöå-ãóáåðíàòîð -
>Èâàí Ïîçäíÿêîâ â îòâåò íà ïðåäëîæåíèå óëàäèòü âñå
>ïîëþáîâíî ñêàçàë: "Ìíå íóæåí ýòîò êîíôëèêò".
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>Ïî ñëîâàì Íàèëÿ Õàçðàòà, îñåíüþ 2002 ãîäà íåèçâåñòíûå
>çëîóìûøëåííèêè îáëèëè ôàñàä ìå÷åòè êðàñêîé. Îí íàïèñàë
>çàÿâëåíèÿ âî ..................âòîðîé îòäåë ìèëèöèè
>Âîëîãäû, ãîðîäñêóþ ïðîêóðàòóðó, îáðàùàëñÿ ëè÷íî ê
>íà÷àëüíèêó ÓÂÄ îáëàñòè Ïàâëó Ãîð÷àêîâó è ðóêîâîäèòåëþ
>âîëîãîäñêîé ìèëèöèè Ëåîíèäó Ëåòíåâó, ãëàâíîìó
>ôåäåðàëüíîìó èíñïåêòîðó ïî Âîëîãîäñêîé îáëàñòè Ñåðãåþ
>Ïàñòóõîâó, íî "õóëèãàíîâ íå íàøëè, è î äåëå
>áëàãîïîëó÷íî çàáûëè".
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>Îäíàêî íå âñå ìóñóëüìàíå îäîáðÿþò ñîñòàâëåíèå "÷åðíûõ
>ñïèñêîâ".
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>- Íè ê ÷åìó õîðîøåìó ýòî ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèå íå ïðèâåäåò, -
>çàÿâèë "Èçâåñòèÿì" âåðõîâíûé ìóôòèé Ðîññèè, ãëàâà
>Öåíòðàëüíîãî äóõîâíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ ìóñóëüìàí Ðîññèè è
>åâðîïåéñêèõ ñòðàí ÑÍÃ øåéõ óëü-èñëàì Òàëãàò Òàäæóääèí.
>- Åñëè âîçíèê êàêîé-òî áþðîêðàòè÷åñêèé êîíôëèêò, òî â
>ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü íóæíî ñïðîñèòü ÷ëåíîâ îáùèíû, ïîíÿòü,
>ìîæåò áûòü, îíè ñàìè ïðîâèíèëèñü. Â Êîðàíå ãîâîðèòñÿ:
>ïðàâî âûíåñåíèÿ ïðèãîâîðà èëè ñóäà ïðèíàäëåæèò òîëüêî
>Áîãó. À òàê îíè ñàìè ïðåâðàùàþò ëþäåé âî "âðàãîâ
>èñëàìà".
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>Íà÷àëüíèê Óïðàâëåíèÿ èíôîðìàöèè è îáùåñòâåííûõ ñâÿçåé
>Ãåíïðîêóðàòóðû ÐÔ Ëåîíèä Òðîøèí óçíàë î ñóùåñòâîâàíèè
>"÷åðíûõ ñïèñêîâ âðàãîâ èñëàìà" îò "Èçâåñòèé". Ïî åãî
>ñëîâàì, "òàêîãî åùå íå áûëî". Îí çàÿâèë: "Ìåñòíûå
>îðãàíû ïðîêóðàòóðû çàèíòåðåñóþòñÿ ýòîé ñèòóàöèåé è
>äàäóò äåéñòâèÿì ìóñóëüìàí ïðàâîâóþ îöåíêó

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