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Date Posted: 10:20:25 04/19/03 Sat
Author: ÐÁÏ
Subject: Re: Äâîéíîé ãðàáåæ.
In reply to: Ïðîõîæèé 's message, "Re: Äâîéíîé ãðàáåæ." on 03:49:26 04/18/03 Fri

>>Ãäå-òî ïðîõîäèëà öèôðà 1,2 ìëðä. äîëë. â ãîä.
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>Âåñü îòòîê êàïèòàëà èç Ðîññèè îöåíèâàåòñÿ â 20 ìëðä.
>äîëë. (ñì.
>http://topadm.rbc.ru/index.shtml?/news/policy/2002/08/1
>6/16171201_bod.shtml), ÷òî æå ïî-âàøåìó ìîæåò áûòü
>õîòü ñêîëüêî-íèáóäü ðåàëüíûì, ÷òîáû 7% èç ýòîé ñóììû
>óõîäèëî â Àçåðáàéäæàí? Ïî-ìîåìó ýòî ïðîñòî ñìåøíî.
Ïî-ìîåìó ðåàëüíî. Â Ðîññèè èõ ãäå-òî ìèëëèîí, â ãîä ïî 1200 äîëë. íîðìàëüíî. À ìîæåò è áîëüøå.
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>>>Âîò ñ ýòèì è íàäî áîðîòüñÿ, à íå ñ òåì, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê
>>>çàðàáîòàë äåíüãè è õî÷åò èõ îòâåçòè ñåáå äîìîé.
>>Êàê çàðàáîòàë?
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>Êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà? Åñëè íåâîçìîæíî äîêàçàòü, ÷òî çàðàáîòàë
>íåëåãàëüíî, íå äîëæåí è îãðàíè÷èâàòüñÿ â ïðàâå, ïîòîìó
>÷òî òàêîå îãðàíè÷åíèå áóäåò îñíîâàíî íà äîìûñëàõ.
>Åñëè âîçîìæíî äîêàçàòü, òî íàäî áîðîòüñÿ ñ íåëåãàëüíûì
>çàðàáàòûâàíèåì, à íå ñ âîçìîæíîñòüþ ïåðåâîäà.

Ïëàòè íàëîãè è ñïè ñïîêîéíî. À âîò ñ ýòè ó íèõ äîëæíû áûòü áîëüøèå ïðîáëåìû.
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>>Óñòàíàâëèâàÿ ìîíîïîëüíî âûñîêèå öåíû íà
>>ðûíêàõ?
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>Îá ýòîì óæå ïèñàëè. Åñëè ó êîãî-òî íå ìîæåò ñåáå
>ïîçâîëèòü êóïèòü âèíîãðàä, ýòî íå îáÿçàòåëüíî
>îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî íà âèíîãðàä ìîíîïîëüíî âûñîêàÿ öåíà,
>ìîæåò áûòü ïðîñòî ó ýòîãî ÷åëîâåêà ìàëåíüêèå äîõîäû.
>Âû æå íå æàëóåòåñü íà íåìöåâ çà òî, ÷òî îíè
>óñòàíàâëèâàþò ìîíîïîëüíî âûñîêèå öåíû íà àâòîìîáèëè
>BMW?
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>>Íå ïóñêàÿ òóäà ïîäìîñêîâíûõ áàáóëåê?
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>Åñëè ýòî è ïðîèñõîäèò, íàäî áîðîòüñÿ ñ òåìè, êòî
>îãðàíè÷èâàåò êîíêóðåíöèþ íà ðûíêàõ, à íå ñ
>àçåðáàéäæàíöàìè âîîáùå. Èëè êîìó-òî áóäåò ëåã÷å, åñëè
>ïîäìîñêîâíûõ áàáóëåê íà ðûíîê íå ñòàíóò ïóñêàòü òàòàðû
>èëè äàæå ñàìè ðóññêèå?
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>>Â ïðîøëîì ãîäó íà Þæêå âèäåë ïðåëþáîïûòíóþ êàðòèíó:
>ñèäèò àçåð è
>>òîðãóåò ëàíäûøàìè. Íóæíû ëè êîììåíòàðèè?
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>È ÷òî ñ ýòîãî? À ó ìåíÿ ïîä îêíîì ñèäèò ðóññêàÿ áàáà è
>òîðãóåò ãîëëàíäñêèìè ðîçàìè. Íåóæåëè êàæäîìó äîëæíî
>áûòü ïîçâîëåíî òîðãîâàòü òîëüêî òåì, ÷òî îí ñàì
>âûðàñòèë?

òàê áàáà ñâîþ, à àçåðû ÷óæèå.
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>>Îïÿòü ñîøëþñü íà ëè÷íûé îïûò.  ìëàäøèõ êëàññàõ
>>Îáðó÷åâñêîãî îêðóãà áîëüøèíñòâî ó÷àùèõñÿ äåòåé -
>>÷¸ðíûå. Ãîâîðÿò íà íåïîíÿòíîì ÿçûêå. Çà âçÿòêó â
>>Ðîññèè íå òî ÷òî íà ðàáîòó ïðèìóò, à è íà Ëóíó
>>îòïðàâÿò.
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>Âîïðîñ: êòî âçÿòêè áåðåò? Àçåðáàéäæàíåö ñ ðûíêà èëè
>ðóññêèé çàâó÷?

À êòî äàåò?
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>Íà ìîé âçãëÿä, áîðüáà ñ àçåðáàéäæàíöàìè,òàäæèêàìè,
>àðìÿíàìè è ïðî÷. âûãîäíà òåì, êòî õîòåë áû, ÷òîáû
>óñèëèÿ îáùåñòâà áûëè íàïðàâëåíû íå íà áîðüáó ñ
>óñëîâèÿìè, èç-çà êîòîðûõ îáùåñòâî ÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ
>äèñêîìôîðòíî (ïîäàâëåíèå êîíêóðåíöèè, âçÿòî÷íè÷åñòâî,
>óêëîíåíèå îò óïëàòû íàëîãîâ è ò. ä.), à áûëè
>ðàñòðà÷åíû íà êóõîííûå ðàçãîâîðû î çàñèëüè èíîðîäöåâ.
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>Êîíå÷íî, íåêîòîðûå èñêðåííå âåðÿò, ÷òî åñëè âûãíàòü
>àçåðáàéäæàíöåâ, òî íà ðûíêàõ ñòàíóò ñèäåòü
>ïîäìîñêîâíûå áàáêè è ïðîäàâàòü äåøåâûå ïåðñèêè. Íî ìíå
>÷òî-òî íå âåðèòñÿ â ýòî.

Áîþñü, ÷òî Âû ñìåøèâàåòå äâà êóñòà ïðîáëåì-ñîöèàëüíî-ïîëèòè÷åñêèå è íàöèîíàëüíûå. Åñòü òå è òå.

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