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Date Posted: 08:17:03 01/28/03 Tue
Author: ßê
Subject: Íåìíîãî ëèêáåçà
In reply to: ÿ 's message, "×òî òî íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿë." on 04:24:38 01/28/03 Tue

>Ïî ïîâîäó ïðàâîñëàâèÿ è ÐÏÖ.Êòî òî íà ñàìîì äåëå
>ñ÷èòàåò,÷òî ðóêîâîäñòâî ÐÏÖ ðàäååò çà ðóññêèé íàðîä è
>èñêðåííå âåðóåò?

Ó êàòîëèêîâ ïàïà íåïîãðåøèì.  ïðàâîñëàâèè íåò äîãìàòà î íåïîãðåøèìîñòè ïàòðèàðõà è öåðêîâíîé èåðàðõèè âîîáùå, ýòî òîæå ãðåøíûå ëþäè. Ãëàâîé Öåðêâè ÿâëÿåòñÿ íå ïàòðèàðõ, à ñàì Ãîñïîäü. Èñòèíîé îáëàäàåò íå èåðàðõèÿ è íå îòäåëüíûå âåðóþùèå, à Öåðêîâü âî âñåé åå ïîëíîòå, âêëþ÷àÿ óøåäøèõ â ìèð èíîé Ñâÿòûõ Îòöîâ è ò.ä. Ýòî ñîâåðøåííî îðòîäîêñàëüíàÿ òî÷êà çðåíèÿ. Ìîæåò, ÿ ñëîæíî èçëàãàþ, íî êðèòèêà Öåðêâè íà òîì îñíîâàíèè, ÷òî àðõèåðåé òàêîé-òî òîðãóåò âîäêîé - âûãëÿäèò ïðèìèòèâíî è íåñîñòîÿòåëüíî. Ñòîÿëà äâå òûùè ëåò è åùå, Áîã äàñò, ïðîñòîèò. À àðõèåðåÿ Áîã ïðèçîâåò ê ñóäó, â ñâîå âðåìÿ, è âçâåñèò âñå íà ñâîèõ âåñàõ. Îñòàâüòå Öåðêîâü â ïîêîå, äàæå ñî ñâåòñêîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ åé íåò çàìåíû â äåëå îôîðìëåíèÿ è âîñïèòàíèÿ íàöèîíàëüíîãî õàðàêòåðà. Øåñòåðî ïðàâîñëàâíûõ, çàñòóïèâøèõñÿ çà âåðó îòöîâ - ýòî òîæå ÷àñòü Öåðêâè, è ýòî íåñîìíåííî ëþäè ñ õàðàêòåðîì. Ïðîáëåìû ñ èåðàðõèåé áûëè âñåãäà, ïîñêîëüêó ëþäè ãðåøíû ïî ñâîåé ïðèðîäå, à âëàñòü - áîëüøîå èñêóøåíèå, êîòîðîå íå âñå âûäåðæèâàþò. Ïîñìîòðåòü, ÷òî òâîðèëîñü âîêðóã Ñâ. Ñåðàôèìà Ñàðîâñêîãî - óæàñ ïðîñòî! Îí îáåñïå÷èâàë äàæå ÷èñòî ìàòåðèàëüíîå áëàãîïîëó÷èå ìîíàñòûðÿ, âîçëå êîòîðîãî æèë (ïðèòîê ïàëîìíèêîâ), à åìó èãóìåíû âñòàâëÿëè ïàëêè â êîëåñà, ìåøàëè ñîçäàâàòü íîâóþ îáèòåëü. Íó è ÷òî? Ñåðàôèìà âñå ïîìíÿò, à êàê çâàëè òåõ èãóìåíîâ - íèêòî íå âåäàåò. È Öåðêîâü ñòîèò, è âðàòà àäîâû åå íå îäîëåëè.

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