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Date Posted: 18:51:15 12/17/02 Tue
In reply to:
Maggie
's message, "Re: Who IS JESUS?" on 14:05:25 12/14/02 Sat
I RESPECT Niiki's views.. I see you are a firm believer and I like that!
OK Now you listed it out what is in the Holy Bible about Jesus that supports your view.
As you know we Muslims believe that the Quran is the third book from God, but we believe with an added advantage that its the Last revelations & untouched.
God is addressing the Muslims, Christians, Jews, Non-Believers, and the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) in the Quran.
I Have a feeling that when I list what is in the Quran people dont read it, because everything in the muslim faith puts them off... But give it a chance and read What God has to say.
Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes, and that which has been given to Moses and Jesus, and that which has been given to (all) prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him (Allah) we submit [2:136]
This is the Chapter called Mary, In this God tells the Muslims about Mary and the story of her birth, the detail was found to be amazing by the monks at the time having come 700 years later and 1000 miles away.
And mention in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east. And she placed a screen (to seclude herself) from them. Then We sent to her Our Spirit (Gabriel), and he appeared before her as a well-proportioned man. She said: Indeed I seek refuge from you in (Allah) the Most Gracious. (So leave me) if you fear Allah. He said: I am only a messenger from your Lord, to announce to you the gift of a righteous son. She said: How shall I have a son while no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste! He said: So (it will be). Your Lord said: It is easy for Me, and We shall make of him a miracle for mankind and a Mercy from Us, and it is a thing ordained. So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a remote place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree. She said: Ah! Would that I had died before this and had become a thing forgotten and out of sight! Then he (the baby) cried to her from below her, saying: Grieve not! Your Lord has placed a rivulet beneath you. And shake the trunk of the palm tree toward you, it will drop on you fresh ripe dates. So eat and drink and be consoled. And if you meet any human, say: I have vowed a fast to (Allah) the Most Gracious, so I shall not speak this day to any human. Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Indeed you have come with an amazing (unprecedented) thing.
Your father was not a man of evil nor was you mother an unchaste woman. Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle? He (the child) said: I am indeed a slave of Allah. He has given me the Book and made me a prophet. And He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and Charity as long as I live. And (He has made me) dutiful to my mother, and not arrogant (and) unblessed. And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised to life! Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement of truth about which they dispute. It befits not (the Majesty of) Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When he decrees a thing, He says to it only: Be! And it is. And (Jesus said): Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (alone). This is the Right Path.; [19: 16-63]
In this God Addresses the Christians of that Day and Today.
They surely disbelieve who say that Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. But the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Verily, whoever ascribes partners to Allah, for him Allah has forbidden Paradise. And his abode is the Fire. So for evildoers (polytheists) there will be no helpers.; They surely disbelieve who say that Allah is one of three (in a Trinity), for there is no god except One God (Allah). And if they do not desist from what they say, surely a painful torment will befall on those of them who disbelieve. Will they not rather repent to Allah and seek forgiveness of Him? For Allah is Oft-Forgiving (and) Most Merciful. The Messiah, son of Mary was no more than a messenger (of Allah); many were the messengers that passed away before him. And his mother was a righteous woman. They both used to eat (their) food. See how We made the Signs (the revelations) clear for them, and again see how they are deluded away (from the truth)! [5: 72-75]
Indeed the likeness of Jesus before Allah is that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him: Be! And he is [3:59]
(And remember) when the angles said: O Mary! Verily, Allah gives you the glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary. (He will be) held in honor in this world and the Hereafter, and will be one of those near (to Allah). He will speak to the people in (his) cradle and in (his) manhood, and he is of the righteous. She said: My Lord! How shall I have a son while no man has touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah creates what He will. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only: Be! And it is. And He will teach him (Jesus) the Book and the wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel. And (will make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel, (saying): Indeed I come to you with a sign from your Lord. I fashion for you out of clay the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it by Allahs leave. And I heal the born blind and the leper, and raise the dead, by Allahs leave. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store up in your houses. Surely herein is a sign for you if you are believers. And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden to you; and I come to you with a sign from your Lord. So fear Allah and obey me. [3:45-50]
We do believe in the Bible.. but we dont believe that the four Gospels were the utterness of Jesus... Even the Church concedes that four different men wrote the Four Gospels;, but still upholds that they were divinely inspired, a claim rejected by Muslims.
Jesus did tell the people that there will be a coming prophet:
And (remember) when Jesus of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Indeed I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Torah (which came) before me, and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad![2] But when he came to them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic. [61:16]
Chapter 14:Verse16 of the Bibles King James Version which says: And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter (counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener and Standby) that he may remain with you forever. In View of such biblical account, some Christians believe or are made to believe that the promised Comforter is the Holy Spirit. But this view is moot and in fact unacceptable because the Holy Spirit was already present during Jesus (peace be upon him) ministry, and its coming was not a future event.
The Muslims, therefore, believe that the term Comforter by necessity refers to a prophet. The prophet was Muhammad (peace be upon him), the unlearned prophet, the sole prophet who brought with him a complete comprehensive revelation.
The final message is:
He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion as that which He ordained to Noah, and that which We inspired in you (Muhammad), and that which We ordained to Abraham and Moses and Jesus, saying: Establish the religion, and make no divisions therein. To those who worship other things than Allah, dreadful is that to which you call them. Allah chooses for Himself whom He will, and guides to Himself him who turns (in repentance to Him) [4:2-31]
I hope you take this Quranic verses into consideration and understand why many people are choosing to follow Islam, including me.
Now my Fellow believers what do you believe that the Quran missed? Why do you think that God 700 years after Jesus revealed another prophet with the exact message (bar God is one of 3) to another people? Why would the Quran not mention this? Why dont we take the Qurans words into consideration? Why cant this theory be possible?
Good Day....
"Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind," 05/12/02 G Bush.
WAKE UP!!!
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