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Date Posted: 23:17:16 09/07/99 Tue
Author: Drake
Subject: I read it, vey well written indeed, it was very un biased, told things how they were, and all in less then a 6000 word essay ( I wrote one once, but it said, MAX is 500 words, hot back and try again) WHen I hit back, it was ALL gone, needles to say, writing it a second time, just plain pissed me off... :) but uhh, when I finnaly did get it posted, I had re-written it 6 times.. so I got you beat Phule... :)
In reply to: Mr. Phule 's message, "Ok people...either respect that time I spent writing this...or I'll start another game of "Continue the Story." ;-) [nt]" on 19:51:47 09/06/99 Mon

> > Ok, this is now the THIRD time I've tried to write
> > this. Damn Internet Explorer crashing on
> > me....grrrrrrr.
> >
> > Also, just so you know, someone put several
> subliminal
> > messages in the post...try to ignore them. They show
> > up as italised text.
> >
> > Ahem, anyway....just so Marx knows a little of what's
> > happened, I'm gonna sum up what's happened since he
> > left.
> >
> > Shortly after Marx left, we decided to change the
> > leadership of the clan. Alot of things changed
> pretty
> > rapidly. We switched website servers, (I haven't
> > checked, but I think the GeoCities site is still up)
> > and insituted a council. Three people on the
> council,
> > Marx, Drake, and Punk.
> >
> > well, since Marx was still gone, and Punk had to step
> > down for personal reasons, we held an election to see
> > who'd take thier places. I remember the meeting
> where
> > we held the elections....2 hours of pure hell.
> >
> > I like flowers.
> >
> > Anyway, Swordbane was elected to replace Punk, and I
> > (Mr. Phule) was placed in Marx's seat. This spelled
> > the beginning of the end, I think. Swordbane and I
> > tried our best to take over, but neither one of us
> > ever wanted to really take an action without Drake's
> > opinion on the matter. Problem was, he was always
> off
> > workin' on the webpage, and we could never track him
> > down. Essentially what broke down was Drake handled
> > the webpage, I usually ran the on-line meetings and
> > other stuff, and poor Swordbane got to hear all the
> > complaints, which ranged from accusations of
> cheating,
> > or pointless screams requesting a change of music on
> > the webpage.
> >
> > During this time also, we got a very large number of
> > recruits. There was a Recruitment Tourney, if I
> > recall, which I opposed directly. We had LOTS of
> > 12-year old brats going through puberty who were
> > pissed off that you didn't join and instantly become
> a
> > leader. They could never shut up during the
> meetings,
> > dragging them out 4 or 5 times longer than they
> needed
> > to be, and then proceeded to complain when the
> > meetings were so long.
> >
> > Do you like flowers? They smell
> > nice.
> >
> > Then we had the guy who thought that Safe Haven was
> > impeading on the basic human rights of the members as
> > individuals. Those of us who've been around a while
> > remember this person. Dear old Than. I have two
> > rules when I run a clan. If I were still going to
> run
> > Safe Haven (and knowing me, and the way these things
> > work, I still might, but I doubt it) I allready know
> > what Rules Number 1 and 2 were gonna be. These are
> > the only two rules...if you're caught breaking them,
> > you're out of the clan, period.
> >
> > Rule #1: Real Life Comes First.
> > Rule #2: Don't be an asshole.
> >
> > Very straight-forward. I have no time for people who
> > break either of these rules.
> >
> > Anyway, Safe Haven wasn't lookin' too hot. DFrake
> > will deny it, but he was off with his FTP program and
> > wasn't fully aware of what was going on. (Sorry
> > Drake, but it's the truth.) Swordbane and I were
> > constantly bombarded with endelss accusations of
> > cheating, requests to change the midi into mp3's or
> > somethin' and they'd never stop.
> >
> > Aliens like flowers too.
> >
> > Amb.Kosh, if you'll remember him, was caught cheating
> > in a Diablo tournament, and suspected of cheating in
> a
> > few others, as well as day-to-day Diablo playin'
> fun.
> > He refused to go out without making a huge deal, and
> > while we were dealing with that, the horde of
> > pubescant 12-yera olds grew ever larger. Finally, I
> > think Swordbane snapped. He came into a meeting one
> > day, and said "it's been fun, but I'm outta here"
> >
> > Lots of people left with him. I, too, left SH
> > briefly. I returned for a variety of reasons which I
> > wont go into right now. The day after TC left, the
> SH
> > webpage was totally deleted. Now, whether or not TC
> > deleted the page, you have to admit it sounds really
> > suspicous, doesn't it? TC wont admit that, but gimme
> > a break. Personally, I don't know what happened, and
> > I couldn't care less. That was 8 monthes ago, and
> > I've got too much else on my mind to worry about code
> > and pictures that, incidentally, I had backed up. I
> > mean, I had it all backed up, but whenever I
> mentioned
> > it people just said "No...No! It's GONE, it's all
> > GONE"
> >
> > Aliens have landed on earth you know. They
> > want to take all the flowers.
> >
> > Then I was approached by a member of TC. I don't
> > remember who, although I suspect it was a fake name
> > anyway. He wanted some help writing some anti-TC
> > posts to put up under the name "Devils Advocat." I
> > helped him refine his arguements, and fixed the
> > grammatical errors (there were enough to drive any
> > English Teacher berzerk) and posted it as a personal
> > favor to the guy, whom I had regarded as a friend.
> As
> > an elaboration, he wrote it, I turned it into
> > something presentable. Well...in case you're
> unaware,
> > these boards track the IP, and I got pinned for it.
> I
> > never saw the TC member again, and the real fun
> began.
> > Drake and I launched a very brutal post-war on the
> TC
> > forum. In the end, the entire T1 access I have,
> along
> > with a very large number of proxy server IP's were
> > banned from the board, and it slowly died out.
> >
> > During that time, an attempt to revive SH was made,
> > but another webpage failure, coupled with the
> > questionable help from Tolwin, who wanted all the
> > credit for none of the work, as well as hostilities
> > from Swordbane posing as a Recruit and spying on one
> > of our meetings...that attempt didn't work out too
> > well.
> >
> > So we pulled back, said "Aww, that's ok, we'll just
> > get ourselves a forum and hang out until Diablo 2
> > rolls around."
> >
> > And that's pretty much what we've been doing since.
> >
> > I don't think the aliens should take our
> > flowers.
> >
> > Now, so far as the future of SH goes...there are a
> few
> > ways to go. Personally, I am a HUGE fan of the
> > multi-house system. It encourages recruitment (since
> > everyone wants thier house to be the biggest) and it
> > encourages gameplay (since everyone wants thier house
> > to be the best).
> >
> > People have critisized the house-system due to
> > apparent "hostilities between houses" but I think
> > that's a load of BS. It was good natured, and very
> > healthy for the clan. (Result on effects of actual
> > health pending)
> >
> > My plan for the structure of the clan goes as
> follows.
> >
> > 3-Person Council
> >
> > They handle the leadership. Simple enough.
> >
> > Housemasters
> >
> > Anyone who doesn't know what a housemaster is is
> > reading the wrong forum...
> >
> > HallMaster
> >
> > Diabloe 2 battle.net will have clan halls, that can
> be
> > purchased from Blizzard. I don't really know
> anything
> > about them other than the fact that I want one. The
> > Hallmaster controls the members list, and all that
> > good stuff. Normally the leader would get this job,
> > but since we have three leaders, and only one person
> > can be the hallmaster, this works just as well.
> >
> > It was suggested that a community name "Hallmater~SH"
> > be created, but I like the idea of a person in the
> > roll better....I don't know why, it's just cooler
> that
> > way.
> >
> > Go home aliens! Get you're own
> > flowers!
> >
> > However, the problem inherant in this system is that
> > to be effective, it really needs alot more people
> than
> > what we've got. So my proposal is to begin the clan
> > with a single leader, and when we recruit enough to
> > the point where we have sufficient size, we can form
> > the council and all that good stuff.
> >
> > The council is a good idea, I think just about
> > everyone here likes it. It worked really well under
> > the old SH, until Swordbane left, but you all know
> > that story.
> >
> > Anyway, that's how things are looking. If you want
> to
> > be involved, Marx, we welcome you back. I do,
> > however...have a small peeve about you're wanting to
> > just step back into the leadership role. I never
> knew
> > you as a leader, which is part of the problem. I
> > understand you left for personal reasons, but you
> were
> > still out of the loop for nearly a year...in my mind,
> > that doesn't really qualify you to just step back
> in.
> > I'd have no qualms for you to be a housemaster or
> > somethin' but I just grit my teeth whenever someone
> > leaves a program, reason valid or not, comes back and
> > expects everything to return right away. I'm not
> > trying to be be rude or anything, that's just how I
> > feel. I mean, when Punk came back after sitting on
> > the council he had to go for a while as REC~Punk.
> >
> > If you want to get rid of the aliens, try
> > shooting them with high-tec weaponry.
> >
> > That's just the way these things work, and I think
> > it's a good policy. But in all reality, if you
> really
> > want your high rank, just wait a few monthes. I went
> > from recruit to Housemaster of KTS in 2 monthes. Two
> > weeks after I became housemaster, I was on the
> > council. ;-)
> >
> > Anyway, that's the big of it. Wow this was a long
> > post. Did anyone actually read the whole thing?
> >
> > That'll teach those aliens to take our
> > flowers!
> >
> > -Mr. Phule
> > "Peace: Permanent Pre-Hostility."
> > Official Pentagon Definition

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