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Subject: Response to your comments

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Sacred Poontang
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Date Posted: 22:01:38 11/19/02 Tue
In reply to: chadi 's message, "plus, I would not be against the person..." on 21:29:05 11/19/02 Tue

1) I am against using judgmental terminology like "loser." I believe such terminology is demeaning and psychologically harmful to others, and perpetuates the very type of self-loathing behaviors you object to in your reply. People are not losers; they all have within them the same intrinsic worth and sacredness that is in all life. Your Buddhist studies should teach you that. People engage in dysfunctional behaviors at times, but that does not lessen their inherent worth as living creatures or make them "losers."

2) Rape is not a consensual sexual activity; it would be a crime regardless of whether it was photographed or not. Moreover, rape is not a sexual act; it is a violent act.

3)Demonstrate how it is psychologically harmful for children to be exposed to sexual behavior. There is no evidence to support such a hypothesis. Children who live on farms are exposed to sexual behavior in animals on a regular basis: horses are doing it, pigs and cattle, sheep, etc. Why would it be harmful for them to see humans engaging in sex and not animals?

The negativity surrounding sex in our society is caused by the attitudes of guilt, shame and possessiveness we have toward it; the act itself is positive and affirming, while shame, guilt, and possessiveness are fear-based emotions.

For someone who is as allegedly enlightened as you claim to be, I find it peculiar that your belief systems would be so puritanical.

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You didn't respond to the privacy and public display related part of my comments chadi 22:39:38 11/19/02 Tue

Privacy is a matter of individual choice. Individuals consenting to engage in sexual acts in public situations have chosen to forego their right to privacy. -- Sacred Poontang, 23:18:15 11/19/02 Tue

It depends on which "public" you're talking about. You do not have the right to insult someone by email. Some people consider pornography as an insult, and most pornographers send pornographic and obscene spams to their emails. (this is just one mere example). (NT) -- chadi, 23:34:22 11/19/02 Tue

The definition of freedom is that your rights end where your neighbor's began. Your neighbor has a right to positively express his/her sexuality. They do not, however, have the right to coerce you into participating, or to verbally abuse you. (NT) -- Sacred Poontang, 23:55:30 11/19/02 Tue
What makes spam annoying is not the content, but the lack of choice you had in receiving it. It has nothing to do with pornography, anymore than it has to do with debt consolidation or Viagra. -- Sacred Poontang, 01:53:00 11/20/02 Wed

Buddhism and puritanism Glenda Yenta 22:41:27 11/19/02 Tue

And do you think pornography is "something in moderation" ???? -- chadi, 23:13:09 11/19/02 Tue

If you reread my post, you will see I was NOT stating my opinion. Rather, I was explaining that Buddhism and pornography are not inconsistent. I was giving the Buddhist point of view. As I am NOT a Buddhist myself, I do not see how this would be taken to reflect my viewpoint. -- Glenda Yenta, 23:20:18 11/19/02 Tue

who said you're a buddhist? (NT) -- chadi, 23:38:23 11/19/02 Tue

You asked if I thought pornography was moderation in reply to my post on Buddhism. No, I do not think it is moderation-but I am saying Buddhism believes in moderation and it does not have the same sexual taboos as Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. -- Glenda Yenta, 23:48:12 11/19/02 Tue

So much for unbiased moderators... -- Sacred Poontang, 23:48:31 11/19/02 Tue