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Date Posted: 16:12:17 05/31/03 Sat
Author: Cory
Subject: god?
In reply to: Talen P. 's message, "The Truth (IMO)" on 08:18:37 05/31/03 Sat

I can deny that god exists. Very easily, in fact.
I don't really get the purpose of your post, either. What does this do with the matrix? Not much, really. Just preaching. Guerilla tactics are not a good way to convert people to yourway of thinking.

>Excuse me. This is my first post on this forum, (I
>just watched ‘Reloaded’ a few hours ago) and haven't
>read too many of the posts yet, so I apologize to
>anyone whom I might offend with this post.
>
>My thoughts are this:
>This is one of the many reasons why most of the people
>on the planet aren't Atheist. It’s one of the reasons
>why you can't deny the existence of God.
>
>All of these laws of physics and logic must begin
>somewhere. There must be a source for them to work.
>Take cause and effect for example. For every effect
>there is a cause, and every cause has an effect. Now
>this can't go back for eternity because the other laws
>wouldn't allow it (the 2nd law of thermodynamics comes
>to mind) and look around. Everything you can see in
>this universe has a beginning. So what is the root?
>
>Consider this: The dictionary defines the words we use
>with other words. Those words are defined by other
>words, and so on, and so forth. There has to be a
>root source to the language or else you're going in
>circles and there is no ultimate definition.
>
>Where did the laws start and why? I believe that God
>must exist. If there weren't a root to all the laws
>they simply wouldn't work.
>
>Now back to you. You're feeling that there must be
>some greater purpose to your life. There must be some
>kind of direction, otherwise you (and the entire human
>race) are just going in circles. And without purpose
>there would be no advancement of any kind and
>(honestly) no reason to continue going round and
>round. Well, we don't have mass anarchy spreading
>across the globe. In fact we as a race have come
>along quite a way (and have slid back quite a way too
>in more recent years I think).
>
>We must remember that God exists. He is here and He
>loves us. Why? Because just does. After all He made
>us. What would be the reason for Him to make us and
>abandon us? I cannot think of one.
>
>I'm really starting to babble now (sorry it’s 2:30
>A.M. here) so I'm going to cut to the point of all of
>this.
>If you believe the Bible as I do, you will take note
>that ultimately we are here to glorify the God that
>made us.
>
>That is our purpose. (IMO)
>
>The only reason that I admit that I could be wrong is
>because I am human and therefore flawed. However, I
>believe in this truth with every fiber of my body and
>every scrap of my decidedly finite mind. And I don't
>give a care about how hokey or trite it may sound.
>
>Yes there are leaps and gaps in the reasoning here,
>but logic can't answer this question. It can point
>you in the right direction but it can't stand in for
>faith. If I tried to prove God's existence beyond a
>shadow of a doubt we would be here for years. And
>even then there would be more questions to answer.
>
>Here is what I suggest: Go out and buy a Bible if you
>don't have one. Preferably the NIV or New Living
>Translation as those are easier to read. (Some of the
>translations can sound like the architect from
>'Reloaded') And start reading through the New
>Testament (the last third of the Bible starting with
>Matthew).
>If you really don't like what you hear just close the
>book and put it on a shelf.
>
>P.S. Please don't flame me. If you disagree just
>present arguments rationally and I WILL listen. I'm
>not closed minded on this subject and I hope I never
>will be. Otherwise I really have no right to speak.
>And I'm sorry about the length of the post!!!
>___________
>Talen P.

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