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Date Posted: 13:18:10 12/04/02 Wed
Author: theo
Author Host/IP: saturncr.ia.net / 64.6.88.53
Subject: Re: Hey Cyber...
In reply to: Harv 's message, "Re: Hey Cyber..." on 10:56:55 12/04/02 Wed

It wouldn't be fantasy league without Mock whining for more points and Mike trying to bone him. Ah, the memories . . .

If it matters, I say give Mock the points--he'll end up in 6th place either way.

>I have had a change of heart--I just wanted to get
>Mock fired up. I would be willing to award him the 2
>points based on a loose interpretation of the rule.
>It just says safety=2 points. You can say that Simeon
>caused the safety more than anyone else. We'll have
>to make sure that we credit any sack that results in a
>safety an extra 2 points from now on--no matter where
>the sack occured. Of course, I will have a different
>opinion if I lose to Mock by 2 points. But, I want
>Mock to speak to me in the future. I was awarded 6
>points earlier in a similar situation, so I can't
>argue.
>
>>Here is the play-by-play line from the game, listing
>>the sack and fumble as occurring at the 0 yard-line,
>>which would mean in the end zone.
>>
>>3-8-NO10 (3:24) (Shotgun) A.Brooks sacked at NO 0 for
>>-10 yards (S.Rice). FUMBLES (S.Rice), ball out of
>>bounds in End Zone, SAFETY.
>>
>>I can understand why you would want to bone me over
>>since every point counts, but I do think this is a
>>legitimate 2 points. I will, however, go with whatever
>>the majority thinks with minimal bitching.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>This is Mock's extremely loose interpretation of the
>>>safety rule. My understanding of it was that when
>the
>>>rule was put in (after Mock's bitching 5 years ago),
>>>if a defensive player sacked the QB in the endzone,
>it
>>>was +2 points, as the box score would indicate.
>>>Brooks was sacked in the field of play, fumbled and
>>>the ball was touched by someone else and eventually
>>>went out of bounds. This smacked of desperation from
>>>Mock when he first brought it up, but I was going to
>>>wait and see what others thought. While Simeon got
>>>the sack, he didn't cause the safety, Brooks geeked
>>>out. If Simeon recovered the ball in the endzone, it
>>>would have been 12 points. Bottom line: Box scores
>>>credit safeties and I don't see S. Rice anywhere to
>be
>>>found. I'm all for slightly bending the rules, but
>>>this is a bit of a stretch.
>>>
>>>>I'm open to everyone elses opinion, but I can't find
>>>>any boxscore that credits Simeon Rice with a safety.
>>I
>>>>assume there was a sack that accounted for the first
>>2
>>>>TB points but all of the boxscores call it a fumble
>>>>out of the back of the end zone not a tackle or
>>fumble
>>>>recovery by Rice.
>>>>What does everyone else think?
>>>>
>>>>>Please do not forget Simeon Rice's 2 additional
>>>points
>>>>>for his safety on Aaron Brooks on Sunday night. He
>>>>>should have 20 instead of 18. When Brett is getting
>>>>>Woodson charity on the last play of the game, every
>>>>>one of my points matters tremendously.

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