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[> [> [> [> Don't get your hopes up, Robert. He's not that mature. -- Lethal Larry, 11:46:31 08/11/04 Wed (px3wh.vc.shawcable.net/24.69.255.204)


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[> [> [> [> ............................. -- Serena, 11:55:14 08/11/04 Wed (0x50a6b891.arcnxx17.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk/80.166.184.145)

I am getting soooooo sick and tired of this?!
To tell you the truth, I like AJ and Shaun. I think they're funny guys, smart, all that shit.
But I also like Larry. Or I like the guy I knew back when this place was actually fun. And I don't think he's changed that much.
Right now I feel like, if I post in one place, I won' be allowed to post in another. If I post too much fun stuff around here, AJ and Shaun will disapprove, but no, AJ, you haven't got me on your board. Not exclusivly.
I seem to always end up in situations like this, likeing two ppl who hate each other(and don't give me that "We don't hate each other, he's not worth it"-shit).

I agree with Larry on a lot of things, such as Michael Moore, for one. And I agree with Shaun on a lot of things too, and I hate being in between.

This is one of the most childish things I've ever laid my eyes upon, it seems like you are pushing each other in different directions, to the extreme. Shaun has become a lot more puritan and patriotic than when I left the boards first 3 years ago. Larry has become much "worse" in his language, seems to only post in order to piss someone off.

But I still like talking to both of you. What the fuck do I do?

I'm now expecting passwords to be changed, contacts being blocked or...whatever...but...Had to vent a few thoughts, think of it what you will.

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[> [> [> [> [> You're welcome to post here whenever you want - it's no concern of mine wherever else you post. You're obviously not banned or shunned or anything like that here. -- Lethal Larry, 14:25:00 08/11/04 Wed (px3wh.vc.shawcable.net/24.69.255.204)


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[> [> [> [> [> I, too, would like for things to be as they were - but I seriously doubt that that can or will ever happen again. This isn't entirely due to my own opinions/wants/beliefs/actions... even if I were to just put all that aside, put on my best "Old Larry" act, and myself, go back to how things were, there still remains the fact that shaun and aj have drastically changed. We've all tried going back to how we were, but it failed, because things truely HAVE changed, and it turned out to be a thin facade over the facts. -- Lethal Larry, 18:43:32 08/11/04 Wed (px3wh.vc.shawcable.net/24.69.255.204)

I think it's time for us to admit and accept the fact that those days are over, gone. The shaun we knew is gone, and he will not return.... and the guy who took his place isn't someone I want to associate with. AJ too.

I've come to accept that things have drastically changed.... I don't think I'm wrong in this.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> And as aggrivating as it may be, there's nothing really wrong with it. People change.....it happens -- Hierophant, 19:13:05 08/11/04 Wed (adsl-64-123-236-244.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net/64.123.236.244)

Now, I seriously doubt if we all ever met in person we would argue. I bet we'd sit on a deck, drink beer, smoke cigars and laugh at stupid shit.

Atleast thats what I think.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Didn't you intend to stop smoking??? -- Robert, 10:24:41 08/12/04 Thu (host093025.phil.uni-erlangen.de/131.188.93.25)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Well.....yeah, I quit every day, lol. -- Hierophant, 12:10:07 08/12/04 Thu (adsl-66-142-52-15.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net/66.142.52.15)


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[> [> [> [> Alright -- Hierophant, 12:18:47 08/11/04 Wed (adsl-65-69-64-12.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net/65.69.64.12)

I will say calling you a Nazi may have been going a little far , Especially sense that post was directed more towards Larry then you.

So yes, I do apologize.

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[> [> [> [> [> That's a strange sort of apology.... -- Robert, 13:29:58 08/11/04 Wed (host093025.phil.uni-erlangen.de/131.188.93.25)

"going a little far"... please tell me - if it's just a 'little' far - to address me as Nazi, in what way I may be linked with Nazi stuff? I'm not aware of anything.
Same with "since that post was directed more towards Larry" - does this mean it would have been more justified if the post would have been directed towards me?

I guess according to your former practices it was just some random mud slinging without any special meaning and based on nothing I had posted. I suggest to completely stop such stuff.

And just in case you didn't notice: I didn't post anything about politics or offending your or anyones political believe. What I said was about Moore, whom I like - BTW because he's pretty american, and defending him against Joe. And the stuff Brandon made his entrance with just didn't make sense independent of it's political content.

I don't have war with any of you and I don't intend to start it in any way. Seems meanwhile Shaun is much more reasonable than you - he didn't start any unnecessary fighting.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Indeed.... -- Hierophant, 14:09:00 08/11/04 Wed (adsl-64-218-106-253.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net/64.218.106.253)

I guess the slight malice that presents itself to you comes from the fact that you also never give much credit to my country, when I believe it deserves a lot for what its done through time....especially for Germany.

Thats aside the point. You've never "mud slinged" towards me IIRC, which i'm sure I don't cause I don't seem to have the post memory of you or Shaun.

So yes. Sorry. It just came out in my anger towards Larry who think America is evil and all who live in it are evil and everything American is evil.......and corrupt.....and all lies.

So to quote King Arthur in Quest for the Holy Grail:
"I have no quarrel with you good Sir Knight!"

And a side note.....whats your email addy? Shaun just called wanting it and I don't have it. He had to reformat and lost everything. So just email him at

pendragon2k3@hotmail.com


Cheerio.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> What the hell is he doing? - I recall several times that he lost all of his stuff, graphics and everything.... *L* -- Robert, 10:21:23 08/12/04 Thu (host093025.phil.uni-erlangen.de/131.188.93.25)

Email is rtschwab@web.de

Well, you can't give credits for stuff you disagree with. However if you recall the time of the Afghanistan war - there I even got printed in a magazine defending the US.
And you shouldn't mistake criticizing an administration for criticising a country.
And when you say "especially for Germany" - I do credit the people who did it - but it's impossible to credit a country. And it doesn't work to inherit credit, though some Americans seem to believe it.

Even if you don't like Moore - he is American, and I give him a lot of credit, and he isn't the only one. There's a lot of stuff I like about America - and though your opinion about it may be different - nevertheless it's America.

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