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Date Posted: 16:55:58 06/03/06 Sat
Author: Rabbi Stanley
Subject: Re: Gentile believers guarding Torah; fulfilment of prophecy
In reply to: Kimberly 's message, "Re: Gentile believers guarding Torah; fulfilment of prophecy" on 10:06:45 05/18/06 Thu

Shalom Kimberly,
I agree with you, but we have to determine what we mean when we say "Law". The Law can mean different things. For example... It can mean the Torah (the first 5 books of Moses). It can mean the Old Testament or it can mean the entire Bible. It can also mean the Oral Law. We also have to take into consideration that some Laws only had to be obeyed when in HaAretz (The Land). There are some Laws that are only for Jews. I don't believe that Gentiles have to be circumcised. Is it a good idea? Yes it is. What about eating kosher? No, they don't have to do that either. Is it a good idea? Yes it is. I look at it this way. If my dad told my brother not to eat pork because it's unclean, then I would naturally listen and also not eat pork (see my article on the dangers of pork at http://birdflu.homestead.com). But is it a requirement for Gentiles? No it isn't. But Gentile Christians are indeed breaking many Laws that are required. Like keeping the Sabbath. In Biblical times, if you did not keep Shabbat, you were stoned to death! It was a crime with the ultimate penalty. Gentile Christians today just blow it off. That's a slap in G-d's face. Also keeping the Feasts of the L-rd is a requirement. As I've said before they are not "The feasts of Israel". The Bible never says the Feasts of Israel, it says "The Feasts of G-d"! To not keep them is a sin. As with any sin, it has to be committed with full knowledge. But now you know so it is required of you (I'm not talking to you personally Kimberly, I know you already know this).
Shalom in Him,
Rabbi Stanley

>I believe that gentile Christians need to keep the
>Law, too. I just stumbled across this website, but
>it's an answer to prayer because I'm all alone in my
>area. There doesn't seem to be anyone else here that
>knows to follow the Law. But I have a wonderful
>husband who supports whatever I want to do for my
>spiritual life. I keep the Sabbath and am working out
>the details of the other commandments that I've
>broken. So, it's really nice to finally find others
>who are doing the same thing.
>
>I may be alone in my community, but Christians turning
>to the Torah in greater numbers, as we are now, seems
>to be a phenomenon of "in-gathering". G-d is calling
>His people to Him. I'm so glad that He loves me this
>much! And I'm happy to be keeping the Laws, too. This
>doesn't feel like a burden to me, as I've seen some
>Christians claim in websites on the internet. Not at
>all! I feel blessed and humbled that He told me what I
>need to do.
>
>Have a Blessed Day
>Kimberly
>
>>I am of the opinion, based on scripture alone, that
>>gentiles who accept Yeshua of the Gospels and who
>>guard the Torah and the prophets are the fulfillment
>>of prophecy. Please see Gen 48:18-19, Isa 56:6-8, and
>>Romans 11:25-26 for starters. These are not to boast
>>against the natural branches. There is a phenomenon of
>>late (growing exponentially it seems) of many
>>"christians" coming out from the church, keeping
>>Sabbath and the moedim, and rejecting all pagan
>>connections to worship. Indeed they are saying, "Our
>>fathers have inherited only falsehood, futility, an
>>there is no value in them." (Jer 16:19) I do not
>>however consider lawless chistians who keep Sunday and
>>pagan feasts instead of the appointed days as
>>engrafted branches based on Matt 7:21-23 and Matt
>>5:17-19. What is the consensus of this forum? Do you
>>beleive that there are literal "lost tribes"
>>uncontaminated with gentile ancestry comin home in the
>>last days, or do you see the "fullness of the
>>gentiles" as Isreal, based on the scriptures above as
>>well as others?
>>(I know this is a hot potato. But I never experienced
>>resistance this strong when I was a harmless
>>Christian. A small Sabbath keeping assembly now meets
>>in our home. My relatives are up in arms.)

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