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>I won't lower his forum to arguing with you, it >happened as it happened, they bullied Andy badly, kept >him hungry and dirty, an tired a lt of the time. > >>The bastards - first they don't let him live in their >>house for free, then he steals their car and they go >>and report it to the police! Despicable!!! >> >>>Tom >>> >>>yes Andy was in prison, he was not on bail though. >>> >>>My understanding was he'd gone to a vicars house upon >>>being released from prison, but could not settle, and >>>joined the ja, so a referal or self referal from >>>another Christian team. >>> >>>My understanding was he was quite mercilessly bullied >>>at the farm, and took a vehicle, driving round to >sort >>>his head out, and the ja reported the vehicle stolen, >>>Andy had mental health issues at the time. >>> >>>When Andy served his sentence for the theft, he came >>>back to the farm, I know for a fact Andy was suicidal >>>in prison. >>> >>>When Andy got back to the farm, he was bullied again, >>>he had no money, you took his benefits, so he took >>>another vehicle and went to Scotland, buying food off >>>the fuel card, you reported him again, and he went to >>>a Scottish prison, I haven't heard from him since, so >>>he may have committed suicide. >>> >>>I blame the ja for not helping enough, and you didn't >>>stop him being bullied, he was a confused bullied >>>suicidal young man, and he ran away from you, so >>>hardly the helping organisation you pretend to be ja. >>> >>>Please don't twist the truth Tom, it isn't very fair, >>>and Andy rigsdale is another ja victim. >>> >>>Andy was a friend, and was easily victimized, as was >>>proved with his experiences at the ja. >>> >>>>>Just to confirm, I don't think though that the >>police >>>>>are colluding with the ja as an organisation, it's >>>>>more like your thick copper thinking he's helping >>>>>someone out, and the police involvved didn't know >>>>>about the dangers of the ja, it's our job to inform >>>>>the police, and as many as we can of the ja >>>>>activities, to prevent it happening again. >>>> >>>>Luke - I was in the JA for 10 years+ and still have >>>>some association with them. >>>> >>>>I worked at the central office at The Farm and often >>>>answered the JA helpline. On many many occasions >>other >>>>christian organisations, homeless shelters, The >>>>Samaritans and even the Police called with a view to >>>>providing accomodation. >>>> >>>>The JA are not a hostel an openly admit that a >>>>Christian belief is central to remaining there. I >>have >>>>seen people come an stay for years and others come, >>>>get a helping hand and leave the better for it. >>>> >>>>I knew Andy Ridsdale, he came when I was there and I >>>>may even have been involved as I think this was a >>>>similar instance. He'd just got out of prison,a YOI, >>>>or was on bail as I recollect. I equally recollect >>him >>>>stealing the car from the very people who were >trying >>>>to help him. >>>> >>>>Not quite sure what else could be done to be honest.
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