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Date Posted: 23/12/09 6:27:17pm
Author: Matt Smith
Subject: Re: Happy Xmas
In reply to: John Smith 's message, "Happy Xmas" on 23/12/09 11:59:14am

Such a shame that you can't wish them a merry xmas without such cynical irony..... don't forget that they are human beings too! Ever heard of live and let live?

I don't doubt that you had a rough time in community but what you have said here does appear to be overstated and silly.

>Wishing all the JA members a happy xmas, I know you
>will be sat around struming guitars and belting out "I
>believe in Jesus" and then as Stanton used to do
>commanding the evils spirits that have engulfed the
>rest of humanity at this time of year to begone
>(Honestly you people are deluded).

Thats' a matter of opinion actually, they think you are deluded too! So what??
>
>One year I got a football from a grandparent as a
>present, one of the leaders was so jealous and
>insecure of a piece of leather he stabbed it with a
>knife then rebuked me for having a demon of
>competativeness ha ha this is soooo funny

I can see how that could have happened ..... I remember an incident when a monopoly board was dramatically torn in half!! some people do the wrong thing at times - true ..... sometimes people make mistakes in life .... folk either make up and carry on or part company .......... incidentally, did you know that domestic violence increases by 40% every December? Sad
>
>Beloved do you want to be saved? then join the Jesus
>People "We will cast out your demons"-translated we
>will take all your wordly possesions and burn them if
>you have a house we will sell and spend the money on
>wasters.

Again, this is just your opinion. In fact, most of the JA don't even live in community these days and so retain their houses and possessions. Those who choose to live in style 3 membership do give up some of their possessions ...... but is that not up to them???
>
>"We will make you a disciple" - Translated as you will
>live in community you will be asigned a shepherd and a
>caring brother who will belittle you and break you
>down until you are an emotional wreck, you're
>confidence will be smashed and everything you do will
>have to be checked by the leaders.
>You won't be able to go out, meet outside friends,miss
>a prayer time,eat confectionary other than FDC food,
>flirt with women, watch sport,play sport, watch
>TV,you're relatives will be cast aside and you will be
>told that if you leave or join another church you will
>burn in eternal fire!!!!
>
This is over the top. yes, in community there is no TV and what you do needs to be checked out with the leaders and this can be incredibly hard to cope with ..... all I know is that nobody made me commit to this, I did it cos I wanted to - up to me.

To draw a comparison, I have to go to work in a few hours. At the moment I'm hating work big time and feeling like I can't cope with too much more.... but actually, I committed to doing the job of my own free will - so I should do it - up to me
>"You will however have to" attend all meal times,
>attend all meetings,train to become a leader,(Unless
>you're female then basicaly you become a dog) never
>have any time of your own, get a job in one of their
>business's and pay all your money into the Common
>purse (Then if you want some you must ask your leader).
>Your body will become tired and because you can't do
>any sport you will be either fat and ugly or skinny
>and ugly.

Again all opinion and mostly silly.
>
>If your a woman then you become whats known as a
>sister-translated as a rag dog, you will encouraged to
>wash smelly socks clean toilets and become subserveant
>to men, you have no rights and if you want to date a
>guy you have to wait to be asked, you can't look after
>yourself, no make up, perfume,hair removal plastic
>surgery (Gok Wan and harley street would make millions
>over night)!!
>
silly

>So if you are a member or if you are considering being
>one this is how it was last year and this is how it
>will be next year...................naf naf naf naf
>It's a cop out for wasters who have no direction in
>life, people who have given up, people who are of
>unstable minds, this is when the disciples pounce and
>drag you back in their colourful buses and beging the
>whole process of breaking you down untill you actually
>believe that you are right and the rest of us are
>possesed by the devil.

silly
>
>So happy Christmas enjoy your cold soup and agape meal
>and don't forget 2010 will be exactly the same drip
>drap and uterly soul destroying !!!!


Merry Christmas

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