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>>>It is in the nature of the JA to like simplistic, >>>easily pigeonholed concepts, so naturally you will >>>find the convolutions of criticism of the JA complex. >>>You are over-looking the fact that people out here in >>>the world do not all think the same....so here you >>>have a montage of different views about the >>fellowship. >>> >>>One thing I would say is that I have never said that >>>people in the JA are brainwashed. I actually don't >>>think there is any such thing. In my view the concept >>>is a way for weak willed people to abdicate >>>responsibility for having made a decision which they >>>later feel embarrassed about. I was responsible for >>>joining the fellowship - and for deciding to leave >it. >>>I do think people are indoctrinated, but that is >>>different. I also think that people are put under >>>pressure and that, more significantly, they contort >>>their own thinking in order to accommodate the will >of >>>the brethren. But it is still all about individual >>>responsiblity. >>> >>>I don't think you are brainwashed, Sarah, but your >>>assertions that you were not someone who could be >>>bullied, and that you were utterly determined in your >>>course, when we talked about starting the "dialogue" >>>forum, were belied by your subsequent statements >about >>>your neglect of your duties as a mother in community >>>the week following the Dialogue's launch.....so that >>>all of a sudden you wouldn't be able to be involved. >>> >>>It was a very public about-turn....and a perfect >>>illustration of the influence that the brethren have >>>over you. The fact that you also went from sending >>>really sweet emails and texts (in which we shared a >>>common hope and vision)....to now seemingly coming on >>>here only to be unpleasant about me and my >"followers" >>>etc indicates a need in you to demonstrate to the >>>church that you are still loyal and veryt definitely >>>not under my control. In fact, where's that very >>>interesting posting where you actually talk about how >>>you decided to not be involved in the dialogue >because >>>the brethren had told you that you must not be >>>controlled by me? >>> >>>I firmly believe that it won't be long before the >same >>>people who persuaded all JAs not to get involved in >>>the Dialogue, in the hope that it would die a death, >>>will recognise the damage you are doing to the >>>church's rep by coming on sounding very unchristian, >>>will silence you. You will leave with a parting shot >>>across the bows about how you have something much >more >>>important to do.....(and people will wonder how you >>>had so much time to waste here in the first place, >>>which John will rightly explain away as the time that >>>less committed style 1s always have) >>> >>>As long as you are here telling us how very >hillarious >>>we all are (while assiduously avoiding being drawn >>>into the sort of intelligent discussion you wouldn't >>>be able to handle and John Campbell wouldn't be able >>>to censor) you show the JA as it is, and that in >>>itself can't be bad. >>> >>>But the point John is making is that your role could >>>only be performed here by someone who isn't in >>>community...who isn't really in central zion, not >>>fully committed. The thing is that only fringe >members >>>have ever really been free to defend the JA online, >>>because John C has always had the sense to know that >>>the best way to stop a story is not to respond to it. >>> >>>So don't stop coming to laugh at us. The joke is on >>>the JA in the long run ;) >> >>Haven't spoken to John in years! Don't know if he >>reads my input, but bring up the post when i say i was >>controlled.. would love to see it... You slag the >>church but haven't returned in years, and you don't >>dare confront who supposedly hurt you face to face. If >>you really had an issue you would turn up Sunday night >>at Jesus Centre and have it out... but you know deep >>down you can't do that cause John didn't actually hurt >>you did he? He's just a scapegoat for your bitter >>rants... and all who hurt you, as i've told you before >>have left.. find them and bring your vengeance.. stop >>using the church as an excuse for your screwed up >>life. Crap happens, in all walks of life, most people >>get over it.. you are the exception that spends 20 >>years wasting your life, and your missus, harping over >>lost love. Fly, teach, and be eaten by worms at the >>end... No God apparently.. and see this as a few >>wasted years..YOU don't have to answer to anyone... Or >>do you? > >P.s Show me intellectual conversation... Can anyone >else find it?? Or prove me right, that Pete controls >this forum...
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