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Date Posted: 01:39:01 03/06/04 Sat
Author: Hendrik - 1 Feb 2004
Subject: Yogi Ramiah

Some time ago there was a thread on Ramana Maharshi's great disciple yogi Ramiah (or Ramaih, or Rama). I have come across a number of references, most are from Swami Kriyananda, and one is from the third part of Swami Ramdas' autobiography.

Just for the record.

Hendrik


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http://www.yoganandarediscovered.com/jaitruth/openltr4.html

Position in the organization has nothing to do with a person's depth of Self-realization. Rather, it has everything to do with the particular karmic patterns he needs to work out. This point was expounded to me by no less a master than Sri Rama Yogi, the most advanced disciple of Ramana Maharshi, and the only saint, so Master told me, that he'd ever met outside our own line of gurus (and two of Lahiri Mahasaya's most advanced disciples, Swami Pranabananda and Ram Gopal Muzumdar) who had attained final liberation.

Sri Rama Yogi (Yogi Ramiah, as he is named in Paul Brunton's Search in Secret India) had asked me, "What are Daya Mata's responsibilities?" I briefly described them to him. "What a burden!" he exclaimed. But he then went on to explain that it was actually her blessing to be in a position where she could work out her past karmas more quickly, because so intensely. "That doesn't mean," he added, "that another person would be similarly blessed were he placed in that position. It depends on the specific karmas that the individual has to work out."
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http://www.yoganandarediscovered.com/jaitruth/dayamataNew.html

I had an opportunity to visit Sri Rama Yogi, a highly advanced disciple of Ramana Maharshi, in 1960 in his little village of Buchireddipalayam, Andhra Pradesh, India. Master had spoken very highly to me of this saint in 1950. He told me that Sri Rama Yogi was the only person he’d ever met, outside of our own line of Gurus and two of Lahiri Mahasaya’s disciples, who had attained final liberation.

During my four-day visit, Sri Rama Yogi told me he’d received several letters from Daya Mata. He asked me what her duties entailed. When I told him, he commented, “My, what a burden!”

“Are you saying,” I inquired somewhat cheekily, “that it was bad karma that qualified her for the presidency?” He smiled at my slightly impudent question, then replied, “That wasn’t my meaning! It was good karma, of course, that raised her to that position, for it enables her to work out that karma more quickly. For other people, however, it wouldn’t be good karma; they wouldn’t have that particular karma to work out. There is no correspondence between a person’s position in life and his inner, spiritual realization.”

Our Guru was discussing with a few of us monks one day the spiritual states that certain close disciples had attained. He mentioned certain ones specifically: Rajarsi Janakananda, Yogacharya Oliver Black, Sister Gyanamata, and to a lesser degree a few others. When he seemed to have finished, the thought came to me, as I imagine it did to others there: “What about Faye [Daya]?” Faye was in charge at Mt. Washington. The Master responded to this thought, “And Faye—well, she still has her life to live.” I never again heard him speak on the subject of her spiritual development.
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http://www.ananda.org/inspiration/books/place/12.html

From Sri Lanka I flew to Madras. I had two hopes in mind: one, a few days of seclusion prior to resuming my work for YSS; and, two, a visit to Sri Rama Yogi, known as Yogi Ramiah to readers of Paul Brunton's book, A Search in Secret India. Master had met Yogi Ramiah at Ramana Maharshi's ashram during his 1935 return to India. Speaking to me of that meeting, Master told me, "We walked about the ashram hand in hand. If I'd had another half hour in his company, I could never have brought myself to leave India again. He was a great and fully liberated soul." This was more than Master had said about Ramana Maharshi himself.

"Paul Brunton," Master added, "later told me that Yogi Ramiah had materialized before him and requested a photograph of me."

I traveled to Nellore, then out to the little village of Buchireddypalayam, where Sri Rama Yogi (as he was now known) resided. Again, I would love to describe this four-day visit in detail. Some day, perhaps. For the purposes of these pages, however, it is best that I limit myself to one snippet from our conversations.

Sri Rama Yogi had received several letters from Daya Mata. "What are her responsibilities?" he asked me.

I explained her worldwide duties as president of SRF/YSS.

"What a burden!" he exclaimed, dismayed for her.

"But, Sir," I protested, "to speak of her duties only as a burden would imply it was bad karma that raised her to that position. It might even imply that the main requirement for the position of president in a spiritual organization be that one have sufficiently bad karma for the job!"

Rama Yogi smiled. "Of course I didn't mean it that way. Rather, she has the good karma to have been placed in a position where she can work out certain outward tendencies more quickly. But that doesn't mean that being the president is in itself a good karma. For others, such a position wouldn't be fortunate at all; if it didn't coincide with their own karmic needs, it would be only a burden. For Daya Mata, it is a burden also, but one that can also help and strengthen her."
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http://www.ananda.org/inspiration/books/path/31.html

"I met a great saint on my trip to India in 1935," Master said. "He is still alive. His name is Yogi Ramiah. He is a disciple of Ramana Maharshi, and a fully liberated soul. We walked hand in hand around the grounds at Ramanashram, drunk with God. Oh! If I had spent another half hour in his company, I could never have brought myself to leave India again!"

(In 1960 I myself spent four days with Yogi Ramiah–or Sri Rama Yogi, as he was then known. The visit marked a high point in my spiritual life.)
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Yogi Ramaih, one of the prominent disciples of Shri Ramana Maharshi, came with two other friends. Ramdas felt very happy to see him. His eyes have a light which is perfectly otherworldly, and you feel that he is imbued with the spirit of dispassion. When he sat silent at any place, Ramdas could clearly see that he was conscious of only one existence. This is the attitude of those whose mind is ever in tune with the Eternal. Their look shows that their heart is elsewhere. Ramdas remembers the instance of the hen that sits on its eggs for hatching. If you observe a hen thus occupied, you find a peculiar vacant look in its eyes, as its internal gaze is fixed on eggs. The eyes appear blank, devoid of every kind of expression. Such are the eyes that see and see not. For, they looked into the Infinite and not at the relative world. Yogi Ramaih knew only Telugu; Ramdas could, therefore, communicate with him only by signs. Ramaih attempted to express himself, but his language was a jumble of Telugu and Tamil with a sprinkling of English words. We used to have good laughs on this, in which he also used to join. Ramdas cannot forget the delicious mangoes he brought for him. They were as sweet as he himself.

--Swami Ramdas, In the Vision of God, Vol.II

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