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Date Posted: 05:47:13 04/17/04 Sat
Author: Sundarar - 26 Mar 2004
Subject: Re: On Spiritual Fossils
In reply to: Hendrik - 25 Mar 2004 's message, "On Spiritual Fossils" on 05:46:36 04/17/04 Sat


I have seen this with a few respected saints. My take is to never let the guard down and realize you evolve endlessly as Yogananda said. Perhaps in a way once you get liberated a great deal of awareness is present, but there is much from many saints including Yogananda, Aurobindo and Ramdas that says do not get lax, particularly in your personality. This is nicely described ion "Halfway up the Mountain" by ???? I forgot the author.

Master attained fastwith SY!!! and Yukteswar trained him the better part of 10 years on fine points of conduct. The main thing was PY had troubles with his brother--when he loved him and all equally Sri Yukteswar said he attained. Few would argue that Yogananda was exceptional, polished in all ways. I do not think this is true of all saints.
(PY describes this brother situation in the lessons somewhere...Anandamoy said Yukteswar trained Master to come to the West)

I do not think all saints are interested in embodying God on earth. After getting Brahman or nirvana they don't care to fully embody Bhagavan. Swami Ramdas says this was an error in Buddha and Shankara and it has had negative fallout--mainly that followers view the world as negative. This is not my view. Seems to me you attain Brahman and then the spiritual life begins. This is Brahmananda's view. There is a lot of expansion in bliss for all eternity and refining of the personality and romance with God after that. The beginning of spiritual life is Nirvikalpa. Yet the fossils you elude to aspire to devotional sabikalpa samadhis or seva to the guru. They look forward to another life with the guru or a big astral party with other devotees and they fixate on the "good ol days with Master". I have seen this in many of them. To each his own...

Pranams

Sundarar

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