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Date Posted: 11:30:13 03/08/04 Mon
Author: :-) / kashi108 - 16 Feb 2004
Subject: Re: Whose disciple was Swami Satyananda?
In reply to: :-) Kashi108 - 16 Feb 2004 's message, "Re: Whose disciple was Swami Satyananda?" on 11:29:24 03/08/04 Mon

<"The handing over of disciple from Guru to successor after the Guru's demise is accepted in India."<

Sir! my comments have nothing to do Subramuniyaswami or his tradition. The comments we made are referring the disciples of Sri Yukteshvarji and to your exact statement which was--

>"I think when he said that Satyananda was his disciple, he really meant disciple and not just some organizational subordinate."<

See? That was your statement and that was the statement we are commenting on. This statement is absolutely wrong and we have shown you the authentic literature from a authorized line of Sriyukteshvarji Giri (Shrigurudham)to prove it. See?
This has nothing to do with Subramuniyaswami.
It has to do with an untrue statement being made about Satyananda Giriji Maharaj, lofty and revered disciple of Sriyukteshvar Giri.

You see-- you seem to be under the impression that Yoganandaji was Sriyukteshvarji's sole sucessor. Is this what you are saying? This is not the truth at all!
And so we are trying to correct it.
And it was this attitude (or misunderstanding) among (some) of the western disciples of
Paramhansa Yogananda after Yogananda's passing which led to much resentment (which you may even encounter to this day) among the remaining lines descending from Sriyukteshvarj when suddenly their Gurus are reduced to the status of errand boys by young westerners from far away who had not even sat at the feet of the great one [Sriyukteshvarji] as their own Gurus had actually done. See? I heard comments about this with my own ears when I moved among various Kriya circles in Bengal. That had in fact been the very problem and why there was so much resentment among some (not all---some). Some of the young disciples in the west did not understand the lofty position of the other great disciples of Sriyukteshvarji besides Yoganandaji. I strongly suspect that such great souls as Daya Mata never had any problem with this. They understood the tradition quite well I am sure. Salutations to that Great Ma and her lotus feet.


See? Our post has nothing to do with subramuniyaswami and his tradition. . I assume that you are saying he named one person as his successor and so the others followed him after Guru passed away. See? That is also done in some lines of Sant Mat tradition where they will say there is only one successor to the Guru ------BUT NOT IN KRIYA. This is not the tradition in Kriya as established by the Yogiraj Sri Sri Lahiri Mahasay. It is not the Kriya tradition at all. And most certainly not in the case of sriyukteshvarji's disciples and this is what I am trying to tell you.
Sri Yukteshvarji named several to be his successors and carry on after him. Not just Yogananda but several. They were his named successors. Foremost among them are such names as Satyanandaji (Sriyukteshvarji's "main voice in the East"), Yoganandaji (Sriyukteshvarji's emmisary to the west"), Amulaya Shantra Mahasay, revered Moti Babu and several others.
See?
Yoganandaji was NOT the sole heir and the other disciples of Sri Yukteshvar did NOT become Yogananda's disciples. They were his brothers. He was NOT their superior. He was their brother.
It is NOT like (my understanding of) some of the Sant Mat groups or these other traditions at all and I am trying my best to clear up this misconception. See?
In fact even the books---- Sriyukteshvar gave the copyright to his Gita to Satyanandaji----not Yoganandaji. Did you know that? See? He gave the copyright to the Holy Science to Yoganandaji. He gave the copyright to His Gita to Satyanandaji. Can you see this and it's implication?

Our comments were not directed towards the Subramuniyaswami or his tradition.
Our comments were directed towards YOUR statement.
Your statement is this---

>"I think when he said that Satyananda was his disciple, he really meant disciple and not just some organizational subordinate."<

And so we have shown you from authentic souurces that your stateMENT is wrong.

Look--

"ANOTHER GREAT DISCIPLE OF SHRIMAT SWAMI SHRI YUKTESHWAR IS SHIMAT SWAMI SATYANANDA GIRIJI MAHARAJ who has still been ministering to the spiritual needs of millions and has given a concrete shape to Shri Yukteshwar's ideal of synthesis in his Ashram 'Sevayatan' at Jhargram, Midnapore (West Bengal), which combines the best in eastern and western culture. He is also an author of many books including the lives of Shri Shri Lahiri Mahashaya and Shrimat Swami Shri Yukteshwar in Bengali."..........Professor J.C. Bhattacharya (From "Yogiraj Shri Shri
Lahiri Mahasay." Shrigurudham publications, Howrah, West bengal Firts publication date 1964. Second publication date Octoiber 1969)


See?--- "ANOTHER GREAT DISCIPLE OF SHRIMAT SWAMI SHRI YUKTESHWAR IS SHIMAT SWAMI SATYANANDA GIRIJI MAHARAJ"

and also---

"Another great disciple of Shri Yukteswar was Swami Satyananda Giriji Maharaj who came in early contact with Shri Yogananda who was a few years older between the two. AFTER HIS INITIATION FROM SHRI YUKTESWAR he dedicated hismelf to the task of propagating his Master's message and was one of the pioneers in the work at Ranchi Brahmacharya Vidyalaya.""Shrimat Swami Shri Yukteshvar Giriji Maharaj" by J.C. Bhattacharya


See? --- "Another great disciple of Shri Yukteswar was Swami Satyananda Giriji Maharaj who came in early contact with Shri Yogananda who was a few years older between the two. AFTER HIS INITIATION FROM SHRI YUKTESWAR"<


See? Lahiri Baba had many disciples. Several were named as sucessors to him. Keshabananda Paramhansa, PRanabananda Swami, Panchanon Baba, Sri Yukteshvar, Kebalananda, Kailas Chandra Bannerjee, Tinkori Babu, Dukori Dadu, Sanyal Mahasay, and on and on and on.
They all had their own disciples, some of which were allowed to be Kriya Gurus in their own right.

Sriyuktehsvar had several that he ordained as Kriya Gurus. Moti Babu was the first----before Yogananda even came to Sriyukteshvarji. There was also Satyananda,Yogananda, Shantra Mahasay, on and on and on.
To say they were no longer disciples of Swami Maharaj because He passed away is NOT Kriya tradition and it is also direspectful to these great ones who were ordained by the Swami Maharaj himself. See how this works in Kriya? It is not like in the Subramuniyaswami group.
I think most people reading form this board understand this.

Why such trouble with this?
Why such disrespect for Satyananda Maharaj?

There are NUYMEROUS sources you could easily use to check this information but you do not want to.
So what can we say to you?
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink! :-)

You see?

It has nothhing to do with Subramuniyaswami and his tradition. Nor with Sant Mat. Our post is directed at YOUR comment which was--

>"I think when he said that Satyananda was his disciple, he really meant disciple and not just some organizational subordinate."<

So we came here to post the historic and correct truth and supplied a few sources. Could have supplied many more.

You wrote--

>"What truths? It is obvious that truth is not dependent on anyone's acceptance, everyone knows that. But saying that doesn't necessarily make your point "truth." <


Sir, the truths we have supplied in our post at-

http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1076966882&user=Kriya

and to which we supplied historic reference from books published by one of the authentic lines descending form Sriyukteshvar Giriji Maharaj.


>"Then why don't you do Kriya? It seems that you are the one who would rather do other things than do Kriya. Look, I just wrote one paragraph and you replied with an entire novel."<

Always each day we do our Kriya as advised by my Guru. Always each day. It is between myself and my Gurudev. See?



>"I just wrote one paragraph and you replied with an entire novel."<

I wrote what was needed to try to restore the truth about one of the most revered disciples of Sri Yuktehsvarji---the lofty Swami Satyananda Maharaj.

On many places on the internet many rumors are born and many mistruths are given. When they are repeated enough people begin to take them as truth.
So we had stated the historic facts.
We greive over all these endless misunderstandings and the loss of authentic Kriya history. It needs to be preserved. The need is urgent.
Some friends and I are working diligently to translate the authentic literature and to place it online for free reading by the various Kriya lines so that these facts are preserved and not lost. We have received help in this from many different Kriya lines.
It is exhausting work.
But it is a neccesity.

Those who are interested can always consult the true and traditional literature put out by various sources both here and in West Bengal.

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