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Subject: for Wales too


Author:
Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 22:32:12 10/21/04 Thu
In reply to: Jim (Canada) 's message, "Questions to the Scots here" on 22:01:35 10/21/04 Thu

If anyone has similar information for Wales, it would be appreciated.

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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 22:57:13 10/21/04 Thu

Jim - it's difficult to tell what the real level of support for independence (for Scotland) is as, as odd as it may seem, not all SNP voters support independence. I am certainly not aware of any recent polls.

The Socialist vote in Scotland makes up a huge proportion of the total vote, and the SNP are often a protest vote against incumbent Labour by those who would break out in a rash should their pen ever come within an inch of the Conservative box.

The SNP certainly have a strong following in Scotland, but I cannot foresee them ever gaining control of the Scottish Parliament. Certain polls have shown that Scots believe we will be an independent nation eventually, but the SNP vote has been shaky lately, and they have recently re-instated their former leader as they were not being successful at the polls.

My personal opinion on the matter is that the nationalist have missed the boat on the independence issue. North Sea oil is running out, meaning that the independence dividend is becoming more unrealistic. I also think that the SNP have a severe credibility problem. As crazy as this may sound to you, the SNP support EU membership, and membership of the single currency. So, after campaigning for years that an interest rate set in London was detrimental to the Scottish economy (which was true), they now wish to have it set in Frankfurt. However, they criticise the EU on its fishing policy, which has wiped out the Scottish fishing fleet.

The SNP have come a long way since the days of the “Tartan Tories”, and I don’t know anyone personally who thinks they are a credible future for Scottish Government.

There is one caveat here – should Britain continue on its course towards a federal Europe, and the SNP were to stand on an EU-withdrawal ticket, I would not be surprised if their fortunes improved. Hell, I might even consider voting for them!

Paddy, your thoughts?

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