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Subject: Hm.


Author:
Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 01:37:50 01/12/05 Wed
In reply to: Steph (U.S.) 's message, "Well I wasn't dissing her" on 00:35:17 01/12/05 Wed
 I don't think that anyone was suggesting that you were belittling Her Majesty. We were just agreeing that Her position does not extend from her ancestry. I have friends who disagree, but they are Sith Ifrican and can therefore be safely ignored.

After all, on the British side of my family I am descended from Charles II, but that does not make me superior to anyone else. HM's legitimacy arises from, firstly, the fact that, from birth (or at least from an early age), she was trained to be our figurehead, and, secondly, the fact that she never asked for the job and so is above partisan politics.
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Nick (UK)
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Date Posted: 13:50:42 01/12/05 Wed
A bastard of Charles II? Because that certainly wouldn't make you better than anyone else, you young scallywag.

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Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 15:38:00 01/12/05 Wed
That's just the point. The Queen could be descended from Alfred the Great or Bob the Builder for all it matters. Ancestry is not what counts. My argument was meant to show that there are thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of people who can claim descent from some monarch who couldn't keep his trousers on or be trusted with the scullery maids, but that does not give them a claim to the throne nor entitle them to put on airs and graces.

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