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Subject: Low Density

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David (Australia)
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Date Posted: 09:46:32 12/09/04 Thu
In reply to: Ed Harris (Venezia) 's message, "Designer cities" on 20:42:00 12/08/04 Wed

Ed, the point you made at the end there is exactly why we should stay away from building low-density suburbs. All they do is encourage car dependency which in turn leads to increased air pollution, higher obesity rates (due to less walking) and a poorer quality environment.

To me, Los Angeles serves as an example of how not to build a city. The dependency on cars and too much low-density leads to a very bad place in an environmental and social sense.

In my opinion, we should be doing everything we can to encourage higher densities and more public transport. This means no major road building projects (especially motorways) and many large public transport projects. I support the idea of charging motorists to enter the CBD as is the case in London. I would like to see a return to the day of trams. In the good old days there were hundreds of trams travelling all over Sydney. They were all removed up to the 1960s with the increase in the use of cars. One modern light rail line has returned. I prefer light rail to buses due to less pollution and faster loading times, although buses are obviously a lot better than cars. The NSW Government seems intent on turning Sydney into another Los Angeles, having constructed a series of new motorways throughout the city and crippling the railways, although Melbourne retains a relatively good tram system.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I believe in a balance of new expressways and new public transit

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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 12:17:29 12/09/04 Thu

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Bringing back light rail would be great for poor old Sydney

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Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 14:24:05 12/16/04 Thu

Sydney people used to laugh at Melbourne's trams for being so old-fashioned. I rather suspect no one does that anymore. Certainly not anyone who has actually used them.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Sydney

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David (Australia)
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Date Posted: 09:43:38 12/17/04 Fri

There is actually one small light rail line that was constructed in Sydney in the late 1990s, I think. I doesn't really go anywhere though, only a few kilometres from Central Station to Lilyfield in the inner-west. In my opinion light rail should be brought back to reduce the number of buses (it would be useful as it doesn't create pollution and has faster loading times).

Light rail would be useful in the CBD and perhaps also other business centres such as North Sydney, Chatswood and Parramatta. It would also be useful where there are no or poor rail services such as in the Eastern suburbs. The last tram line to close down was in the 1960s from Central to La Perouse, why they don't bring this line back is beyond me. Unless the government is willing to build a heavy rail line, the entire eastern suburbs except perhaps Edgecliff where there is already heavy rail could do with light rail. Having to share lanes in the road with cars is increadibly annoying.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: light and heavy rail in car-mad Sydney

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Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 12:22:22 12/17/04 Fri

The greater part of that light rail line from central through Pyrmont to Lilyfield was a disused freight line. Thankfully it was put to good use rather than ripped up.

The huge mass of outer western suburbs could do with more heavy rail spurs with light rail feeder networks to get people to them.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I believe in a balance of new expressways and new public transit
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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Bringing back light rail would be great for poor old Sydney
Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:24:05 12/16/04 Thu Sydney people used to laugh at Melbourne's trams for being so old-fashioned. I rather suspect no one does that anymore. Certainly not anyone who has actually used them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: light and heavy rail in car-mad Sydney
Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:22:22 12/17/04 Fri The greater part of that light rail line from central through Pyrmont to Lilyfield was a disused freight line. Thankfully it was put to good use rather than ripped up. The huge mass of outer western suburbs could do with more heavy rail spurs with light rail feeder networks to get people to them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]