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Subject: I disagree

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Owain (UK)

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Date Posted: 20:58:21 11/25/04 Thu
In reply to: Paddy (Scotland) 's message, "Leopold & imperialism" on 20:28:52 11/25/04 Thu

I know about the terrible way the Belgians (and the Germans, though I have read nothing on the Spanish African Empire, though if the Americans thought they were oppressed they should have looked to the South) treated there African subjects. My admiration is for Leopold, not the Empire he created. Indeed atrocities commited by the people of the low countries pop up quite frequently throughout history. I have wondered if perhaps this is in any related to there rather bloody brake from Spain, I dont know enough about that to say so though.

I disagree with your definition of Imperialism. Your right to say that someone who rules over a teritory is not neccesarly an imperialist. An imperialist is someone who actively seeks to acquire more territory. Cecil Rhodes was an Imperialist. He was so because he wished to make lots of money, not because he wanted to bring the natives into the 19th century.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I fail to understand how you can feel any kind of admiration for Leopold
Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:35:56 11/25/04 Thu He is right up there with the Mugabes, the Stalins and the Pinochets in the far-from-admirable stakes. I admire people who set out to do something positive and who respect the rights and freedoms of others as they do their own. Leopold manifestly did neither. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]