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] Date Posted: 23:36:45 11/25/04 Thu In reply to: Jim (Canada) 's message, "Letter from Nick Farage of UKIP about shutting Commonwealth citizens out of British forces" on 22:08:38 11/25/04 Thu As I have mentioned before, I have never met a UKIP member who has not been interested in what I have to tell them about the FCS. Well, maybe Kilroy, but then he's pretty much the only Labour-leaning member If we can just survive another year - until after the 'consitution' is rejected in a referendum - things will start to look up. We will have to leave the EC, and then some progress can be made, and in this context the UKIP people will be useful. I suggest, quite simply, that we canvass the Ukippers by pointing out that their proposal to leave the EU would be much more popular if they were able to suggest an alternative once outside. People have been cowed by a generation of EC propaganda into believing that we can't survive 'on our own'. This may be deplorable, but it means that, although the majority of Brits hate the EC, the majority are very uncomfortable about about leaving altogether. I would guess that this discomfort could be obliterated overnight if UKIP, or whomsoever it may be, could stand up and say, "Look, we wouldn't be on our own: have a dekko at THESE proposals." If one of the presidents were to write to one of Mister Helpful's contacts, I strongly suggest that this is the line which you take. (Oh, and things are even more optimisitc than this, because the new US Secretary of State will make damn' sure that no obstacle is put in the way of our leaving. Whatever we think about the USA, when they can be bothered they are diplomatically very useful!) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:59:13 11/26/04 Fri I think that they are well aware that Europe is going to 'happen' whether they like it or not, and would rather that they had at least one ally on this side of the pond, and that is of course the UK. The Americans would hate to see the British economy and, of course, the British military, used by a European administration with an anti-American agenda. And Dr Rice wants to have closer ties with the UK, involving possible membership of NAFTA, which is incompatible with Britain joining the USE. But anyway, my main point was about UKIP and the line which the FCS should take when contacting them. The American thing was just a footnote. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: The UK in NAFTA would be a good start - it would build economic ties with Canada | |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:12:09 11/26/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |