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] Date Posted: 00:37:02 11/26/04 Fri [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 01:28:48 11/26/04 Fri Why are the US and Canadian thanksgivings at different times? It can't be because of the climate, surely, because the Virginian harvest must come earlier than the Canadian one, since it is much further south... So it must be for historical reasons. What are they? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:15:24 11/26/04 Fri As far as I know, Canadian Thanksgiving is to celebrate the harvest in early October. American Thanksgiving celebrates the time when the Pilgrims first arrived in Massachusetts Bay in the 1620's and they were giving thanks for their new land. Perhaps they arrived in November. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Brent (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:05:14 11/28/04 Sun The rationale for both the US and Canadian Thanksgivings are the same event. There was over 100 years between the Mayflower landing and the Revolution. The United Empire Loyalists, being drawn heavily from the same New England stock, are also quite often Mayflower descendants. A bit of trivia. In 1912, Mayflower passenger Richard Warren could count two national leaders as descendants - US President William Howard Taft and Canadian Prime Minister Sir Robert Laird Borden. The date difference is to accommodate the earlier arrival of winter up here... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Kevib (U.S.) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:22:03 11/26/04 Fri I believe you're right Jim. Personally, I like goose instead of turkey, so that's what my family eats on thanks giving [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:00:05 11/26/04 Fri I always believed that Thanksgiving was the celebration of the Pilgrims' first harvest, not their arrival: hence all that business about inviting the Native Americans to share it - Pochahontas and all that. Perhaps I was wrong. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:16:25 11/26/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Kevin (U.S.0 [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:56:34 11/26/04 Fri Arlight I think I finally figured it out. The "first" Thanksgiving was celebrated in 1621, over a period of three days by the Pilgrims and neighboring Wampanoag Indians who supplied much of the food - venison, waterfowl, dried berries, shellfish and cornbread. Governor William Bradford sent "four men fowling" after wild ducks and geese. It is not certain that wild turkey was part of their feast. The term "turkey" was used by the Pilgrims to mean any sort of wild fowl. So then the colonists ate for a couple years, then... The first national Thanksgiving Day, proclaimed by President George Washington, was celebrated on November 26, 1789. However, many felt the hardships of a few Pilgrims did not warrant a national holiday, and later, President Thomas Jefferson scoffed at the idea of having a day of thanksgiving. Im pretty sure that is the true tale, of America's Thanksgiving. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:04:18 11/27/04 Sat Did Mr Washington declare Thanksgiving on November 26th because it was the presumed date of their harvest or their arrival? Or was it a date entirely manufactured by the president? If the latter, then it would explain why it is not celebrated at the same time as the Canadian one. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |