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| Subject: Wasn't Elizabeth an Empress though, Paddy? Empress of India | |
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] Date Posted: 19:02:40 11/26/04 Fri In reply to: Paddy (Scotland) 's message, "Any yobbo can become "Emperor". A King is special." on 09:43:16 11/25/04 Thu [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:59:29 11/26/04 Fri HM Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother was the last Empress of India. Her 'styles and titles' at her funeral, which I was privileged to attend, were as follows: "Thus it hath pleased Almighty God to take out of this transitory life unto His Divine Mercy the late Most High, Most Mighty and Most Excellent Princess Elizabeth, Queen Dowager and Queen Mother, Lady of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Lady of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Lady of the Imperial Order of the Crown of India, Grand Master and Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order upon whom had been conferred the Royal Victorian Chain, Dame Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Dame Grand Cross of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John, Relict of His Majesty King George the Sixth and Mother of Her Most Excellent Majesty Elizabeth The Second by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, Sovereign of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, whom may God preserve and bless with long life, health and honour and all worldly happiness." Golly, what a mouthful... The best I can do for 'styles and titles' is "esquire"! In pace requiescat Regina Imperatrix. If you mean our Elizabeth II, D.G. R., F.D., then no, since she ascended the throne in 1952, five years after Indian independence. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Two years after the passing of the Indian republic would be more accurate | |
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Author: Paddy (Scotland) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:23:15 11/28/04 Sun Apart from that Ed is quite right [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:53:38 11/28/04 Sun 1947 abolished the emperorship. 1949 (or was it fifty?) saw the coming of the Republic (Bharat Ganarajya). So, even if our Liz had come to the throne in 1948, she would have been Queen but NOT empress. Isn't that right? Or am I getting confused! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Don't know but the coinage continued to use the form 'Ind Imp' until 1950. | |
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Author: Nick (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:55:09 11/29/04 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Actually, you are right, Ed, the Indian Empire was transformed into a constitutional monarchy in '47 and then India was declared a republic in '50 | |
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Author: Paddy (Scotland) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:25:14 11/29/04 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Paddy (Scotland) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:34:56 11/29/04 Mon My point was more about her missing out on being Head of state of India by two years rather than five... Either way, Elisabeth was never the Empress or Queen of "India", although she was the head of state of other territories of the former Indian Empire - Pakistan until 1956 and Ceylon until 1972. In that respect she was an "Indian" ruler for a while. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |