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] Date Posted: 00:29:02 11/27/04 Sat In reply to: Jim (Canada) 's message, "Question to Steph in the USA" on 18:07:37 11/26/04 Fri I would also never support the idea of India being in the union. I am simpy not interested in moving beyond the CANZUK. If you do you may as well say we will make world wide federation your ultimate goal, which is something I for one dont want. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 01:03:54 11/27/04 Sat I would not support India's inclusion unless the Indians wanted it, of course. Because if they ever did want it, it would be a sign that they share our sense of common cultural and historical ties. But before you write off India as a country where this is not only impossible, but completely absurd, go and have a look at it. I have been in taxis in Bombay in which the owner has plastered the Union Jack on his dashboard; I have heard Bombaysiders ranting about how their idiot government has changed the name of The Strand to 'Ramchandani Marg' and Victoria Station into 'Chatrapathi Sivaji'; I have seen Madrasis nodding their respects to the imperial war memorial; I have lived in a supposedly alien country whose principal national newspaper is called "The Times"; I have sat on the veranda of Royal Yacht Clubs listening to Indian businessmen talk about chaps whom they know who are "bloody great blokes"; and I have been to Dravidian Hindu temples in Karnataka designed and built by Englishmen. And it works both ways, because I have eaten the best Indian food anywhere in Leicester, been to the largest Swaminarayan Temple in the world in North London, next year am going to study in the best Indian history library in the world at Oxford, and am engaged to a Gujerati from the British midlands. India, of course, is not British, but it is not entirely un-British either; and Britain is not entirely un-Indian. I have also lived in Italy, and would suggest that we have a better chance of making it work with the Indians than with such as the Italians, much as I love them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:20:15 11/27/04 Sat I dont doubt India's cuklurla ties with Britain. But I still dont to federate with it. Nothing against the Indian people but I dont wnat to move beyond the CANZUK excpet perhaps with the other crown dominions, but no more. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:34:53 11/27/04 Sat I, and indeed most Indians, would heartily agree with you. All I was trying to refute was your association of the inclusions of India with the idea of 'world government'. What makes us closer to India than, say, Cambodia or Peru? Why, all the same things which make us closer to Australia than Germany. The question is one of degree, and our cultural and historical links with India, while present and important, are nowhere near so strong as those between the CANZUK countries, or even the USA. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: cultural similarities? India plays cricket : the USA does not | |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:55:43 11/27/04 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I love cricket, but it is not the only yardstick by which to measure cultural affinity! | |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:21:21 11/27/04 Sat After all, the Scots and Canadians don't really play cricket either. Does that make them more foreign than Pakistan? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: damn, this guy always uses logic and common sense to spoil my fun | |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:13:12 11/27/04 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That is a charge which has never been levelled at me before! | |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:34:42 11/27/04 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |