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Subject: Plaid Cymru?

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Owain (UK)

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Date Posted: 19:29:46 12/01/04 Wed
In reply to: Ed Harris (Venezia) 's message, "Possibly" on 12:26:22 12/01/04 Wed

"all the English immigrants in South Wales voting Plaid Cymru!"

Is this true? Please tell me I am misreading. Sadly its so stupid I can actualy imagine it happening. This country needs some serious work.

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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 20:25:36 12/01/04 Wed

The number of 'pure' Welsh people living in South Wales is absurdly small. From a racial and cultural standpoint, the industrial revolution caused a massive ethnic shift in the population of South Wales. It stands to reason that, then and now, a great proportion of the increased population of the region came from across the boundry in England, particularly from Cheshire, Shropshire (which is half-Welsh in any case), and Worcestershire. The South of Wales is not "Welsh" like the North West of the principality, in the same way that the South of Scotland is ethnically and culturally anglicised and the North of England is ethnically and culturally scossified. In this context, it is safe to suppose that Plaid Cymru voters in South Wales must constitute in a great proportion people whose ancestry is hardly Welsh at all.

On top of this is the phenomenon, which I have read about in the newspapers and seen with my own eyes (I've spent a lot of time in Glamorgan), of people who were born in England and have moved to Mountain Ash or Ponty Pwl mouthing off in a pub about bloody interference from London into Welsh affairs which should be left in the hands of Wales. I'm prepared to bet that there are similar English people in the South of Scotland voting SNP!

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