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] Date Posted: 22:23:20 12/01/04 Wed In reply to: Dave (UK) 's message, "well..." on 21:48:54 12/01/04 Wed I always thought that the second greatest thing about FPTP is that it totally prevents the loony minority parties from getting anywhere. BNP and the Communists stand no chance in FPTP, but under PR they'd be in Parliament! Like in France, where there are actually Communist and National Front representatives. Diversity is one thing, but PR allowed NASDAP to get a foot in the door in Germany, and we all know what that led to. Okay, so you could have a minimum cut-off point, say, 10%, but that's arbitrary and not really a lasting solution: mainly because a party which gets 9.9% of the vote has no seats but a party which gets 10% of the vote gets 10% of the seats - as soon as that happens, the system seems ridiculous and you have to start the whole reform process of again. I'm a great believer in our system. It worked fine until a certain party started to horse around with it, which opened a whole can of worms, largely because if you partially reform something it makes no sense, and so there are immediate calls reform it completely. Mr Blair, having read Machiavelli, knows this well, and cunningly came up with this solution so that it would appear as though public opinion was driving the changes. On the contrary, until he deliberately imposed a crap partial-reform compromise almost everyone was happy with the system apart from a few intellectuals who don't like anything which is 100% rational. The British constitution was a triumph over logic of the organic. I believe that Aristotle called it catalaxy. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:31:24 12/01/04 Wed You cannot claim to be a mature true democracy, if you design a political system to prevent views being aired that you find distasteful. Mature democracies can stomach these parties, just as mature democracies don't tend to have them in the first place. It is this Government and its ppolicies that have created the surge of the BNP [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:33:43 12/01/04 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |