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[> [> Re: HOORAY! No more nukes! -- Frank, 07:21:35 04/07/10 Wed

>Actually,the idea of not using nuclear weapons, as a
>first-strike option, goes back to that liberal faggot,
>Ronald Reagan.
>
>and we all know how he started the US socialist state.

You missed the point.
Obama didn't mention first strike.
He won't use nuclear weapons unless we're attacked by nuclear weapons. Chemical strike - no nuke retaliation. Biological attack - no nukes.
Maybe a really crushing hug, but no nukes.

Nobody wants to use nukes - but even Reagan realized that if you leave a question in the minds of a potential attacker, it's a pretty fucking good defense.

The man's an idiot.
Sorry, but that's the only excuse i can see other than a Machurian Candidate conspiracy theory - and even I'm not that crazy yet.

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[> [> [> Re: HOORAY! No more nukes! -- Frank again, 07:27:22 04/07/10 Wed

To further isllustrate my point:

�Leverage means the other guy has to be afraid of you. I worked for a president, Ronald Reagan, who understood that brilliantly, and that�s how he won the Cold War. You need to appear to be unpredictable. [Reagan�s] State Department understood that you need to create pressure, to create something they�re afraid of. Tell me where Obama has done that.�
Rudy Giuliani

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[> [> [> [> Re: HOORAY! No more nukes! -- Cliff, 14:35:11 04/07/10 Wed

Ah. I didn't see the difference. I thought it was a renewal of the no-first-strike doctrine.

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[> [> [> [> Re: HOORAY! No more nukes! -- Mike P, 01:57:07 04/08/10 Thu

>To further isllustrate my point:
>
>�Leverage means the other guy has to be afraid of you.
>I worked for a president, Ronald Reagan, who
>understood that brilliantly, and that�s how he won the
>Cold War. You need to appear to be unpredictable.
>[Reagan�s] State Department understood that you need
>to create pressure, to create something they�re afraid
>of. Tell me where Obama has done that.�
>Rudy Giuliani

Ronald Reagan, pretending to be unpredictable?
The president who relied on his
wifes psychic for important policy decisions, the
president who, when asked if he knew anything about
trading drugs for guns, replied " I don't recall"
only to find out later, that he was suffering from
the beginnings of alzheimers at the time, and truly didn't recall the incident, but still had access to
"the button"? The same guy who helped bring down the
wall in Berlin, ending the cold war, Only to single handedly
crush an entire defense industry, and it's vendors?

That Ronald Reagan?

He wasn't pretending to be unpredictable, he was crazier than a shit house rat.
(the checks already in the mail Artie)

He was the pebble thrown in the pond,long after
his passing, his ripples continued, until the tidal wave
that was George.W.Bush, crashed into the shores of this country, killing thousands.

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[> [> [> [> Re: HOORAY! No more nukes! -- No name, 03:54:27 04/08/10 Thu

>To further isllustrate my point:
>
>�Leverage means the other guy has to be afraid of you.
>I worked for a president, Ronald Reagan, who
>understood that brilliantly, and that�s how he won the
>Cold War.

Didn't Lysenkoism and a general rejection of evolutionary and Mendellian theory lead them to really really REALLY shitty agricultural practices that had lots more to do with the USSR falling than Reagan ever did? Sure they had given up Lysenkoism by the mid-1950's but their agriculture never recovered. That's why we were always selling them grain in the 1970's...

Just askin'...

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: HOORAY! No more nukes! -- Paul Ruggeri, 12:31:03 04/08/10 Thu

>Didn't Lysenkoism and a general rejection of
>evolutionary and Mendellian theory lead them to really
>really REALLY shitty agricultural practices that had
>lots more to do with the USSR falling than Reagan ever
>did? Sure they had given up Lysenkoism by the
>mid-1950's but their agriculture never recovered.
>That's why we were always selling them grain in the
>1970's...
>
>Just askin'...

That was me. Forgot to sign my name. AGAIN. Sorry.